Live by the gun, die by the gun: Utah man to die by firing squad - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697460]Why do you always think you're superior to everyone, you're such a joke. All you do is make fun of people, a good argument here and there sure, but if someone dares disagree with what you think is a "perfect argument" you think they're an idiot, and just think you shouldn't "bother with people" because they aren't as "smart as you" Truly, you are deserving of "get over yourself"[/QUOTE] But you think he's wrong, don't you?

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697481]And as far as inhumane goes, murderers don't really deserve to be treated with much respect...don't you think?[/QUOTE] yes, they still have rights

[QUOTE=Derubermensch;22697453]That is totally what I said.[/QUOTE] you said the death penalty was more libertarian because it gave people rights because people who weren't killed kill other people if that's not what you meant i suggest you elaborate more

[QUOTE=thisispain;22697474]Forgive me for assuming that when you post about me you're trying to communicate something. I guess I was right to ignore your posts then.[/QUOTE] Again, your age shows heavily. "I can't understand what he's trying to say so I'll make assumptions and bait him, hopefully he'll fall into a trap, but if not, I'll let him know I'm ignoring him and hope he goes away..."

[QUOTE=thisispain;22697484]But you think he's wrong, don't you?[/QUOTE] Well that doesn't matter, I was ranting about JDK's attitude.

[QUOTE=JDK721;22697493]yes, they still have rights[/QUOTE] Because they didn't give up those rights by breaking the fucking law. :downs:

[QUOTE=yodafart9;22697506]Again, your age shows heavily. "I can't understand what he's trying to say so I'll make assumptions and bait him, hopefully he'll fall into a trap, but if not, I'll let him know I'm ignoring him and hope he goes away..."[/QUOTE] So first I'm a teenage and now I'm old. You're either a very bad troll or a forgetful troll. listen up kid, you can't beat me in a trolling contest, i invented all those methods you are using, i wrote the damn book on trolling

Hm, what do you guys think about death penalties on humans that kill multiple people, like massacres and shit like that. [editline]09:27PM[/editline] Oh and torturers, surely those people don't deserve fair treatment

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697515]Well that doesn't matter, I was ranting about JDK's attitude.[/QUOTE] Why is it wrong for him to have that attitude (thinking he's always right) when you also think that you are always right? In fact, you telling him he's not always right and should get over himself is a manifestation of your own belief that you are always right.

They sure didn't show their victims such, I doubt they cared about their lives, their loved ones, or their feelings

Yodafart9 and Gummylamb, I suggest you leave this thread along with me so we end this nonsense and allow thisispain and JDK721 to roll around in their shit-glistened "victory" at being the only ones left to bicker.

[QUOTE=thisispain;22697526]So first I'm a teenage and now I'm old. You're either a very bad troll or a forgetful troll. listen up kid, you can't beat me in a trolling contest, i invented all those methods you are using, i wrote the damn book on trolling[/QUOTE] Then I suppose I should report you for trolling? Moron. I NEVER stated how old I thought you were in that post but since you're setting up another trap I'm going to assume your about 15-17. But you act like a 7 year old with a cocky vocabulary.

[QUOTE=thisispain;22697543]Why is it wrong for him to have that attitude (thinking he's always right) when you also think that you are always right? In fact, you telling him he's not always right and should get over himself is a manifestation of your own belief that you are always right.[/QUOTE] Nope, just because I know he has an attitude problem doesn't mean that I think I'm always right.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697534] Oh and torturers, surely those people don't deserve fair treatment[/QUOTE] lol, the people on the tribunal of the Abu Ghraib torture trials disagree.

[QUOTE=Derubermensch;22697256]The death penalty could be considered a libertarian[/QUOTE] that makes no sense [QUOTE=Derubermensch;22697256]if a murder is kept in jail, they could, and yes, this has happened, murder someone else in jail, or if even murder someone outside of jail.[/QUOTE] depriving them of the right to life just because of what could [I]possibly[/I] happen - and it's not very likely if they're in a maximum security prison and in solitary confinement most of the day [QUOTE=Derubermensch;22697256]In total, by executing a psychopathic murderer[/QUOTE] most murders occur on impulse these aren't psychopaths, - they're people who killed out of rage, lust, jealousy, etc. [QUOTE=Derubermensch;22697256]you will have preserved more peoples' rights than by jailing him.[/QUOTE] not really [QUOTE=Derubermensch;22697256]it is a neutral but slightly libertarian leaning.[/QUOTE] no, it's not [QUOTE=Derubermensch;22697256]Therefore, you argument that it is unlibertarian to have a death penalty is null, JDK721. [/QUOTE] no, it's not

[QUOTE=Derubermensch;22697558]Yodafart9 and Gummylamb, I suggest you leave this thread along with me so we end this nonsense and allow thisispain and JDK721 to roll around in their shit-glistened "victory" at being the only ones left to bicker.[/QUOTE] No dude, I wanna see how long he can say he's ignoring me while blatantly NOT ignoring me. :downs:

[QUOTE=Derubermensch;22697558]Yodafart9 and Gummylamb, I suggest you leave this thread along with me so we end this nonsense and allow thisispain and JDK721 to roll around in their shit-glistened "victory" at being the only ones left to bicker.[/QUOTE] what victory, all you guys have done is tell us how bad we are for not agreeing with your views. i'm just posting this so i can have a record of this one day you'll look back and ask yourself "what was I posting?" [editline]09:31PM[/editline] [QUOTE=yodafart9;22697562]Then I suppose I should report you for trolling? Moron. I NEVER stated how old I thought you were in that post but since you're setting up another trap I'm going to assume your about 15-17. But you act like a 7 year old with a cocky vocabulary.[/QUOTE] you're setting up the trap yourself and yeah you did tell me my old age was getting to me you're really bad at this

[QUOTE=thisispain;22697567]lol, the people on the tribunal of the Abu Ghraib torture trials disagree.[/QUOTE] Well that was one case, that doesn't mean that torturers deserve fair treatment

[QUOTE=yodafart9;22697572]No dude, I wanna see how long he can say he's ignoring me while blatantly NOT ignoring me. :downs:[/QUOTE] that was ages ago obviously i'm not ignoring you anymore

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697534]Hm, what do you guys think about death penalties on humans that kill multiple people, like massacres and shit like that. [editline]09:27PM[/editline] Oh and torturers, surely those people don't deserve fair treatment[/QUOTE] the death penalty shouldn't be used at all under no circumstances [QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697534]Oh and torturers, surely those people don't deserve fair treatment[/QUOTE] uh, yes they do. EVERYONE has rights. they aren't to be taken away under any circumstances.

[QUOTE=thisispain;22697582]what victory, all you guys have done is tell us how bad we are for not agreeing with your views. i'm just posting this so i can have a record of this one day you'll look back and ask yourself "what was I posting?"[/QUOTE] I was pestering a self righteous teenager that thinks he's above another user by calling him a kid. Personally I find this behavior intolerable. You don't need to post to get a record, you're posting to hear yourself talk. [editline]05:32AM[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;22697596]that was ages ago obviously i'm not ignoring you anymore[/QUOTE] You mean 30 minutes ago?

[QUOTE=trent_roolz;22689686]Does it even matter? I'm not one of those "lolol tortur murdurers letz cut theyre fingernailz off" people, but if the guy is on death row he's an asshole who doesn't deserve to live.[/QUOTE] and uh, who the fuck are you to decide if a guy lives or dies?

[QUOTE=yodafart9;22697520]Because they didn't give up those rights by breaking the fucking law. :downs:[/QUOTE] yeah, because two wrongs make a right, and we should just kill killers makes perfect sense - not hypocritical at all

[QUOTE=JDK721;22697612]yeah, because two wrongs make a right, and we should just kill killers makes perfect sense[/QUOTE] It does.

Sorry to interrupt the frontier of intelligent debate, but [url=http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700027698/Corrections-creating-commemorative-coin-for-Ronnie-Lee-Gardner-execution.html]the executioners are getting commemorative coins/ribbons[/url] That is truly hella fuckin badass.

[QUOTE=yodafart9;22697598]I was pestering a self righteous teenager that thinks he's above another user by calling him a kid. Personally I find this behavior intolerable. [/QUOTE] so you call me a teenager then you call me out for calling someone a kid how does this work exactly

[QUOTE=JDK721;22697597]the death penalty shouldn't be used at all under no circumstances uh, yes they do. EVERYONE has rights. they aren't to be taken away under any circumstances.[/QUOTE] This is just silly, humans that murder several humans/torture humans DO NOT deserve fair treatment in ANY way, they don't deserve rights even comparable to regular citizens. You may think "Oh what's the difference, they're still humans (torturers and citizens)" but if you really don't see how animalistic and WRONG it is to murder and torture humans, then you are fucking crazy.

[QUOTE=yodafart9;22697625]It does.[/QUOTE] no, it doesn't an eye for an eye is ridiculous

[QUOTE=JDK721;22697634]no, it doesn't an eye for an eye is ridiculous[/QUOTE] No it isn't. It's simple. [editline]05:35AM[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;22697627]so you call me a teenager then you call me out for calling someone a kid how does this work exactly[/QUOTE] Exactly how I just described it. Either you can't read or your finally following up with your promise to ignore my posts.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22697633]if you really don't see how animalistic and WRONG it is to murder and torture humans, then you are fucking crazy.[/QUOTE] so why don't you see the false dichotomy in saying that it is okay to murder and torture humans as long as they are part of a government entity?