Link teased to not be hero in new Legend of Zelda game
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[QUOTE=Reds;45069418]I think it's probably a girl, the question is if it's Link or not. The lack of a sword and the preference of a bow muddies the waters even more[/QUOTE]
We're finally getting a proper Zelda game! Here's hoping it lives up to the standard set by Wand of Gamelon.
[QUOTE=Reds;45069392]girl link = crafting mechanics/cooking system
did you reply to the wrong person or are you implying something here sir[/QUOTE]
Read the quote, he misspelled girl as grill.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45069404]Skyward Sword establishes the first Link and the events that set the entire series in motion.
[sp]The big bad at the end curses Link and Zelda for their descendents to relive the same events over and over for ever.[/sp][/QUOTE]
I haven't been able to play Skyward Sword yet 'cause no Wii.
hopefully that's just an npc and the real main character is Tingle
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45069417]Also, reposting this from the thread in VAFM.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't look like Epona.
I personally wouldn't like it if Nintendo changed an established character to a girl, I just don't see why it's necessary to do something like that at all.
If it's a new character entirely and not Link, I'd be perfectly okay with it.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;45069395]does reincarnation necessitate gender
like is this a "heroic spirit passing down through the ages" thing or a series of genetic clones thing[/QUOTE]
if his reincarnation necessitates hair color, build, eye color, skin color, etc etc i think it's pretty clear that yes his gender is dictated as well
He's being endlessly reincarnated the exact same through time in the LoZ universe for whatever reason, and disregarding the individual game's art style, with the same features. So, yes they might as well be clones.
If they make a LoZ with a female antag and its for an actual reason, then by all means go ahead; but making Link himself female just so SJWs can feel like they've won some big victory in gaming is pandering and nothing more.
[QUOTE=Bazsil;45069467] but making Link himself female just so SJWs can feel like they've won some big victory in gaming is pandering and nothing more.[/QUOTE]
This is the dumbest shit
You are dumb
[QUOTE=Skyward;45069481]This is the dumbest shit
You are dumb[/QUOTE]
Well shoot i guess it all makes sense now
Female Link for LoZ Wii U
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45069404]Skyward Sword establishes the first Link and the events that set the entire series in motion.
[sp]The big bad at the end curses Link and Zelda for their descendents to relive the same events over and over for ever.[/sp][/QUOTE]
WAIT
[sp]DOES THIS MEAN THAT ZELDA AND LINK ARE RELATED EVERY TIME???[/SP]
[QUOTE=Bazsil;45069467]if his reincarnation necessitates hair color, build, eye color, skin color, etc etc i think it's pretty fuckin clear that yes his gender is dictated as well
He's being endlessly reincarnated the exact same through time in the LoZ universe for whatever reason, and disregarding the individual game's art style, with the same features. It's clear that yes they might as well be clones.
If they make a LoZ with a female antag and its for an actual reason, then by all means go ahead; but making Link himself female just so SJWs can feel like they've won some big victory in gaming is pandering and nothing more.[/QUOTE]
somehow i doubt that the japanese assembly programmers making this game care about what rockpapershotgun has to say
neither do I, come to think of it
who says just because that's how it's gone down in the previous zelda games that that's how it has always gone down in the greater zelda universe
not everything has to be the same all the time
[QUOTE=Bazsil;45069488]Well shoot i guess it all makes sense now
Female Link for LoZ Wii U[/QUOTE]
Remember kids, you can't decide to change things up within the perfect reasonable confines of your story and have a female lead character- or else you're just pandering to SJWs!
Grow up. Not everything involving females, or race, or homsexuality in video games is to push some agenda fueled by kids on Tumblr.
I dont think nintendo is going to make link a girl in this game cause that would just be pushing an agenda made by some whiny tumblr blogs. Nintendo said that they did not want to make any comments on gay marriage with tomodachi life (well by saying that they kinda did so it was a PR disaster) and I think they will go down the same route here and keep link male just like in every other game.
who cares, really
it's not like what went down with metroid where they're changing a prior-existing character 'cause they feel like it, every other link is a different person, and they might be going with a chick this time around
i do not see ze problem
[QUOTE=Simplemac3;45069520]who cares, really
it's not like what went down with metroid where they're changing a prior-existing character 'cause they feel like it, every other link is a different person, and they might be going with a chick this time around
i do not see ze problem[/QUOTE]
It's not a problem, the possibility of a female Link is both new and pretty rad, hence the article.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;45069504]somehow i doubt that the japanese assembly programmers making this game care about what rockpapershotgun has to say
neither do I, come to think of it
who says just because that's how it's gone down in the previous zelda games that that's how it has always gone down in the greater zelda universe
not everything has to be the same all the time[/QUOTE]
Whatever unseen force in the LoZ universe that is behind Link's continuous reincarnation has seen fit to exclusively use Link's "blueprint" as it's arbiter. It hasn't selected some random Hyrulian to keep order, it's used the exact same person, with the exact same features every time. There is obviously some story behind why Link in particular has been chosen for this, and if they haven't changed so much as his eye color or build throughout each incarnation, I don't see why it'd suddenly alter it's course for this one particular instance
It's pretty obvious that, yes, for some mystic reason, Link DOES have to be the same every time. His life story changes, but physically, he's been born the same each time
I'm not against a female protag, Zelda can be the warrior this time for all I care, but Link suddenly being changed so drastically makes no logical sense to me in the LoZ canon so yes it comes across as simple appeasement
[QUOTE=Bazsil;45069467]If they make a LoZ with a female antag and its for an actual reason, then by all means go ahead; but making Link himself female just so SJWs can feel like they've won some big victory in gaming is pandering and nothing more.[/QUOTE]
Why not have link female for the hell of it??
wait better question
How in the name of fuck does female MC = pandering to sjws??
[QUOTE=mchapra;45069551]Why not have link female for the hell of it??
wait better question
How in the name of fuck does female MC = pandering to sjws??[/QUOTE]
Because I'd prefer a franchise with a canon as interesting as LoZ's not have said canon be shattered just "for the hell of it"
I'm not even gonna dignify the second bit with a response because if you'd stop kneejerking and read you'd have my answer to that already
Nothing about the gender or any other trait of the reincarnations is set in stone. At all. It's a fantasy story and the godly powers that be could just as well decide Link should be female.
It has nothing to do with pleasing SJWs.
I suppose Nintendo could just make an option to choose between two genders when you start a new save.
Wouldn't be hard for Nintendo to do that.
link's have had blue and brown eyes and skyward sword's link had big lips and twilight princess link was more handsome
i think girl link would be perfectly fine
Also can I point out that nothing about LoZ's lore has barely been set in stone in the first place?
The backstory to these games is as flexible as Stretch Armstrong yo
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;45069518]I dont think nintendo is going to make link a girl in this game cause that would just be pushing an agenda made by some whiny tumblr blogs. Nintendo said that they did not want to make any comments on gay marriage with tomodachi life (well by saying that they kinda did so it was a PR disaster) and I think they will go down the same route here and keep link male just like in every other game.[/QUOTE]
Can I just get this out of the way and state clearly that the whole idea of changing around a story to fit some other person's social agenda makes me want to hurl?
I like the idea of a female Zelda protagonist because it's something that hasn't really been done before. It wouldn't be a "victory for social justice", it would just be a cool thing. My stance is, if they[I] want[/I] to do it, then I think that would be real cool. If they don't do it, then that's cool too. It's their game.
But if you absolutely must bring politics into it, a future where you can just sorta have a female protagonist and not have it be a selling point on the back of the box or a point of uproarious debate sounds like a cool future to me. Every good game that just has a female protagonist and doesn't make the story about "OO this GURLZ got 'TUDE look out BOYZ" is a step towards that future.
I don't want things to be about justice or what's right or what's PC or whatever the fuck people sperg out about, I only want creators to be able to create whatever they want without being linked to some political group.
Lesson of the day: Don't do cool new things because some people might like it.
And that would just be awful.
You can fight all you want, but remember that some here are arguing whether or not a female Link would be cool, over pictures of a character that has been teased as [I][b]not[/b] being[/I] Link.
[QUOTE=Bazsil;45069563]Because I'd prefer a franchise with a canon as interesting as LoZ's not have said canon be shattered just "for the hell of it"
I'm not even gonna dignify the second bit with a response because if you'd stop kneejerking and read you'd have my answer to that already[/QUOTE]
How exactly would it be canon shattering? As far as I know, this whole "Link is always reincarnated to look exactly the same" thing that people keep saying isn't even part of the canon lore in the first place.
[QUOTE=Bazsil;45069563]Because I'd prefer a franchise with a canon as interesting as LoZ's not have said canon be shattered just "for the hell of it"
I'm not even gonna dignify the second bit with a response because if you'd stop kneejerking and read you'd have my answer to that already[/QUOTE]
dude, LoZ has no canon. There is no overarching logic that connects the games beyond the barest of plot nonsense.
In one game link is a ten year old falling down a magic tree into an alternate reality, in another he's a bobbleheaded cartoon riding a ghost train.
Wait Bazsil are you seriously getting upset at an unsubstantiated rumour that a videogame with a different protagonist each time might have a female protagonist
[QUOTE=Skyward;45069566]Nothing about the gender or any other trait of the reincarnations is set in stone. At all. It's a fantasy story and the godly powers that be could just as well decide Link should be female.
It has nothing to do with pleasing SJWs.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention I still don't think they really intended for the fanbase to be so stuck on canon and continuity that they'd literally shoot things down because it wouldn't fit canonically. Yeah, some of the games definitely rely on eachother, but ultimately they're all supposed to be separate adventures that just happen to fit into the same universe.
A good example is A Link Between Worlds; although it's technically a direct follow-up to A Link to the Past, it started using some legends and lore from Ocarina of Time and onwards mixed with the events of LttP (LttP's creation predating the concept of the three goddesses and them being the creators of the Triforce). They could've easily stuck to LttP's stuff via Hyrule having forgotten about the far past and such but didn't, yet it doesn't fuck LttP, LbtW or the series in the face for it except in the eyes of those super-stingy about canon.
[editline]11th June 2014[/editline]
Or what Skyward said. :v:
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