United Nations Committee expresses concerns about Racial Violence in the United States - Polidicks

[QUOTE]"In particular, the legacy of colonial history, enslavement, racial subordination and segregation, racial terrorism and racial inequality in the United States remains a serious challenge, as there has been no real commitment to reparations and to truth and reconciliation for people of African descent."[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]reparations[/QUOTE] Is this a joke? Are there actually people who work at the UN who believe this shit? [editline]25th September 2016[/editline] Who elected these people? Who called for a Committee of Experts on People of African Descent? What the hell do these people do all day?

The UN put Saudi Arabia on the Human Rights Council, I don't give a fuck what they have to say about us. They will never live down the time they implied Saudi Arabia was an example of human rights. [quote]"racial terrorism" ... "reparations"[/quote] The fuck is this? Is the UN run by an American gender studies professor? [quote]"a rampant practice and seriously damages the trust between African Americans and law enforcement officials"[/quote] Ah yes, blame cops. They've become acceptable targets anyway. Shouldn't the UN be more concerned about the lack of funding and recruits instead? Cities that have 200 cops doing the work of 500 cops in a department that would prefer 900 employees? Auxiliary Police and Detectives being put out on the beat because there aren't enough Patrol Officers?

[QUOTE=_RJ_;51104034]In what way was JoeSkylynx demonstrating that he believed he was superior to someone of a different race? I really hate how the the word "racist" is misused all of the time, its actual definition is "a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another" (source: google search of "define racist" and practically every dictionary).[/QUOTE] And since when are words limited to strictly dictionary based usage? Why on earth is it upsetting that a word can encapsulate more than the most basic defined form of it? Racism conceptually includes much more than that single sentence so its not unexpected to use it as he did, its actually quite defensible because statistics can be used in innumerable ways to justify racial superiorit even if theyre not outright saying "x race is superior to y race".

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51104185]The UN put Saudi Arabia on the Human Rights council, I don't give a fuck what they have to say about us. They will never live down the time they implied Saudi Arabia was an example of Human Rights. The fuck is this? Is the UN run by an American gender studies professor?[/QUOTE] The report was written by a working group made of [url=http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Racism/WGAfricanDescent/Pages/Members.aspx]these 5 people[/url], all university professors/researchers

[QUOTE=smurfy;51104206]The report was written by a working group made of [url=http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Racism/WGAfricanDescent/Pages/Members.aspx]these 5 people[/url], all university professors/researchers[/QUOTE] Only one of them is Black, and he's from a country with extremely high racial tensions, where white people are being lynched. Fantastic. Also that is an oddly specific group, and it's only 5 people. I can see how this statement came about now.

[QUOTE=NixNax123;51103618] [img]http://i.imgur.com/AAKr1k8.png[/img][/QUOTE] To add further context to this picture, white includes "non-Hispanic whites" and "Hispanic whites"

A lot of our problems has to do with poverty straight up. I think MLK understood this, it's too bad he died before leading that movement.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51103582]When a minority accounts for a majority of the crime, it's hard to not profile them.[/QUOTE] "He's black, he's bound to be guilty anyway" That is blatantly racist and guilty before innocent.

[QUOTE=luverofJ!93;51104200]And since when are words limited to strictly dictionary based usage? Why on earth is it upsetting that a word can encapsulate more than the most basic defined form of it? Racism conceptually includes much more than that single sentence so its not unexpected to use it as he did, its actually quite defensible because statistics can be used in innumerable ways to justify racial superiorit even if theyre not outright saying "x race is superior to y race".[/QUOTE] I suppose you're right. I realize definitions for words can change based on how society uses them (e.g. gay, literally, jackass, etc.), it just annoys me in general when words are used in a way that doesn't reflect what they mean. That's not to say that they are always going to be set in stone, just that some words ought to be what they are to avoid confusion in their actual meaning or soon to be meaning (and vice versa).

Aren't these the guys that made Saudi Arabia the head of the human rights council?

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[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51104766]Aren't these the guys that made Saudi Arabia the head of the human rights council?[/QUOTE] i think so.

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51104766]Aren't these the guys that made Saudi Arabia the head of the human rights council?[/QUOTE] Imagine knowing nothing about the UN other than "saudi arabia on human rights council that sounds like retard lol" There's a lot of reasoning behind it - Saudi Arabia's position on the Human Rights Council is essentially meaningless - they have no actual power. Saudi Arabia was put on there as a way of "including" a repeat offender to pressure them to change their policies on human rights. They have next to no say on the UN's enforcement or prosecution of human rights violations. Dismissing [i]literally the entire fucking United Nations, the largest international organization in all of history[/i], because they're trying an interesting tactic to put positive pressure on Saudi Arabia is just stupid.

[QUOTE=SirJon;51103789]Isn't it statistically more likely to be a victim to a black person than to a white person? Wouldn't that make profiling a sad but necessary occurrence in everyday life or, say, law enforcement? It seems insensitive, but it [I]is[/I] pragmatic, i have to admit. And when we're talking about safety, there's not much room for emotions, is there?[/QUOTE] Yes, and a majority of crime is committed by males and a majority of it is committed by people aged 18-24. Does this mean we should be profiling all men and all college age people?

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51104209]Only one of them is Black, and he's from a country with extremely high racial tensions, where white people are being lynched. Fantastic. Also that is an oddly specific group, and it's only 5 people. I can see how this statement came about now.[/QUOTE] The report will be brought before the UN on monday and an official verdict will be had. Dont expect much though bc the US has veto power

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;51105785]Yes, and a majority of crime is committed by males and a majority of it is committed by people aged 18-24. Does this mean we should be profiling all men and all college age people?[/QUOTE] Well I don't know if it's the same for other races but in terms of profiling I'm pretty sure the police prioritize young black men over elderly black women.

[QUOTE=Govna;51103676]And? Yes, poverty is an issue, but it does not have to guarantee that a person will turn out shitty, and it does not excuse their actions either or change the statistics/make them go away. Moreover, how do you propose we fix this? Where does our obligation begin and end? Where does personal responsibility fit in to the equation?[/QUOTE] It all depends on the perspective that the problem is being observed from. Looking at society as a monolith, poverty does kind of guarantee that people will turn out shitty. That of course does not excuse their actions on an individual level. The responsibility to fix this is with the governing bodies, and democratically on all of us. I propose municipal policy changes. Most importantly guarantee essential services and increase the quality of life in these neglected poor communities. In my mind, ghettofication is among the absolute worst things to happen to a city, and investment is required to stop estate value from dropping in such a way. Support for the poor through national legislature. Socialized education and healthcare would do wonders. It's gonna cost, but it'll cost less than all the crime they prevent, and being educated, they can be far more valuable members of society. Also general social service support. For example we have an office where you can go to if you have any issues dealing with the system, such as if you need help applying for school, looking for work, paying taxes, are at risk of marginalization or anything! Might not happen though due to widespread backwards mentalities regarding socialist policies in US.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;51105578]Imagine knowing nothing about the UN other than "saudi arabia on human rights council that sounds like retard lol" There's a lot of reasoning behind it - Saudi Arabia's position on the Human Rights Council is essentially meaningless - they have no actual power. Saudi Arabia was put on there as a way of "including" a repeat offender to pressure them to change their policies on human rights. They have next to no say on the UN's enforcement or prosecution of human rights violations. Dismissing [i]literally the entire fucking United Nations, the largest international organization in all of history[/i], because they're trying an interesting tactic to put positive pressure on Saudi Arabia is just stupid.[/QUOTE] As long as there's a security council the UN is dismissed by me.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;51105578]Imagine knowing nothing about the UN other than "saudi arabia on human rights council that sounds like retard lol" There's a lot of reasoning behind it - Saudi Arabia's position on the Human Rights Council is essentially meaningless - they have no actual power. Saudi Arabia was put on there as a way of "including" a repeat offender to pressure them to change their policies on human rights. They have next to no say on the UN's enforcement or prosecution of human rights violations. Dismissing [i]literally the entire fucking United Nations, the largest international organization in all of history[/i], because they're trying an interesting tactic to put positive pressure on Saudi Arabia is just stupid.[/QUOTE] That tactic doesn't seem to be working so far, is the issue. Recently the Human Rights Council decided that Israel was the largest offender of womens rights in the world. I don't care what your position on Israel/Palestine is (personally I'm pretty pro-Palestine), that's fucking absurd.

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;51105785]Yes, and a majority of crime is committed by males and a majority of it is committed by people aged 18-24. Does this mean we should be profiling all men and all college age people?[/QUOTE] Well, If a policeman thought I was more likely to commit a crime than my grandmother, I wouldn't exactly be offended. Obviously there's a clear limit on when such "profiling" should stop, and I don't dispute the fact that there's a problem with profiling against black people in certain countries. But obviously a Policeman will and should be more weary of me and people like me than, say, a 12 year old boy, a 25 year old woman, a 60 year old man, you know what I mean.

[QUOTE=Flameon;51105840]The report will be brought before the UN on monday and an official verdict will be had. Dont expect much though bc the US has veto power[/QUOTE] The report will be brought before the U.N. Human Rights Council. As mentioned here numerous times before it's composed of such human rights luminaries as China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and the UAE and is primarily concerned with passing resolutions against Israel. Don't expect anything resembling a fair and balanced discussion of the issue.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51104209]Only one of them is Black, and he's from a country with extremely high racial tensions, where white people are being lynched. Fantastic. Also that is an oddly specific group, and it's only 5 people. I can see how this statement came about now.[/QUOTE] so you're dismissing the findings of university professors and researchers on account of "only one of them being black" and "only 5 people" did you bother reading the credentials of the people in there or were you just looking at skin colour

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51104624]"He's black, he's bound to be guilty anyway" That is blatantly racist and guilty before innocent.[/QUOTE] Why are people even agreeing with this type of strawman? Since when is profiling equaling to make someone guilty?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51104624]"He's black, he's bound to be guilty anyway" That is blatantly racist and guilty before innocent.[/QUOTE] Take into consideration that 52% of murders are committed by African-Americans, and that number beats all numbers of other racial/ethnic groups in the United States [B]combined[/B]. This is why racial profiling is so prevalent, because police departments are likely to use statistics to determine where they should deploy patrols. So it's not so much about racial profiling, but more about statistics. If you are bound to find criminal activity in certain areas, why not patrol those areas?

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51108458]Take into consideration that 52% of murders are committed by African-Americans, and that number beats all numbers of other racial/ethnic groups in the United States [B]combined[/B]. This is why racial profiling is so prevalent, because police departments are likely to use statistics to determine where they should deploy patrols. So it's not so much about racial profiling, but more about statistics. If you are bound to find criminal activity in certain areas, why not patrol those areas?[/QUOTE] Drug use in whites and blacks is approx equal but blacks are far more likely to be stop and searched for it. Blacks get longer sentences for the same crimes.

[QUOTE=Flameon;51103761] Honestly im shocked that blacks, in raw numbers, outnumber whites in prison.[/QUOTE] [img]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1H-PS_pr-t0/hqdefault.jpg[/img] [i]"I'm shocked, shocked to find that there are more blacks than whites in prison!"[/i]