• North Korea: Make America Great Again
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Dismissing opposing views as trolling/propaganda isn't cool or a good argument either
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50434902] They already do that, why would you get involved in another country's civil war for free? Sure if NK were to win they'd get stronger and it's got some interest but I'm sure it's not cheap to maintain The NKnews article quotes trump on saying he won't get involved in the North/South Korean War[/QUOTE] "NK winning another Korean Civil War isn't that bad" - VenomousBeetle [editline]1st June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50435867] They only claim to like him because they think he'll pull us out of Korea, according to the article source. It's also entirely possible they see the same logic you're using and are doing this to backhandedly harm his campaign since he is unpredictable and likely to destroy them, he's already threatened to obliterate Isis, them trying to get nuclear launch capability as an American and capitalist enemy wouldn't be ignored[/QUOTE] so he's good because he won't intervene in a korean civil war, but he's also good because he could also obliterate NK depending on how he woke up in the morning holy shit
[QUOTE=Jund;50436263]"NK winning another Korean Civil War isn't that bad" - VenomousBeetle[/QUOTE] How do you strawman this hard [editline]1st June 2016[/editline] Even your subsequent edit is a serious strawman I didn't even suggest he's good. Edit: Honestly baffling, it's like you're reading what you want to argue with instead of what's there
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50436287]How do you strawman this hard[/QUOTE] [quote]They already do that, why would you get involved in another country's civil war for free? [B]Sure if NK were to win they'd get stronger and it's got some interest but I'm sure it's not cheap to maintain[/B] [/quote] i'm not strawmanning anything you literally stated if NK won another korean civil war that they'd only "get stronger" and that it's only of "some interest" but you think that stationing troops there might not be worth it??? and you tout trump's not wanting to intervene and pulling out of SK to save money as a good thing and then turn around and say that trump possibly flattening NK is also a good thing?
You think Kim actually supports someone else and is sabotaging Drumpf by saying this? :v:
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50436252]Dismissing opposing views as trolling/propaganda isn't cool or a good argument either[/QUOTE] He doesn't post opposing views he literally just repeats what Trump says.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50436287]How do you strawman this hard [editline]1st June 2016[/editline] Even your subsequent edit is a serious strawman I didn't even suggest he's good. Edit: Honestly baffling, it's like you're reading what you want to argue with instead of what's there[/QUOTE] then why are you even entertaining the idea of trump [1. pulling troops out of SK to save money 2. not intervening in a SK/NK war 3. "obliterating" NK] as if they were even plausible if you don't support him because anyone who passed middle school social studies can tell you how batshit insane any of those ideas are
[QUOTE=Jund;50436321]i'm not strawmanning anything you literally stated if NK won another korean civil war that they'd only "get stronger" but you think that stationing troops there might not be worth it??? and you tout trump's not wanting to intervene and pulling out of SK to save money as a good thing and then turn around and say that trump flattening NK is also a good thing?[/QUOTE] Quote the part where I say "it's not worth it but trump should pull out and put NK in the water and also he's great" Also here's information on what strawmanning is [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man[/url] From my experience it's basically putting words in someone's mouth and arguing those words. I guess technically you could say you aren't strawmanning because you're basically just saying "are you kidding me??", which isn't an argument granted, but you're still pushing that I'm saying things I didn't say.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50436354]Quote the part where I say "it's not worth it but trump should pull out and put NK in the water and also he's great"[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50434902]Sure if NK were to win they'd get stronger and it's got some interest but I'm sure it's not cheap to maintain[/quote] [QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50435867]he is unpredictable and likely to destroy them, he's already threatened to obliterate Isis, them trying to get nuclear launch capability as an American and capitalist enemy wouldn't be ignored[/quote] if you aren't a trump supporter you definitely aren't very good at playing devil's advocate idk personally i don't talk about the potential loss of millions of lives so casually
[QUOTE=Rossy167;50436324]You think Kim actually supports someone else and is sabotaging Drumpf by saying this? :v:[/QUOTE] If anything I have a hard time believing he'd legitimately support anyone given how much they supposedly hate America and capitalism, especially not Trump. [editline]1st June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Jund;50436397]if you aren't a trump supporter you definitely aren't very good at playing devil's advocate idk personally i don't talk about the potential loss of millions of lives so casually[/QUOTE] Did you think I meant literally carpet bombing the entire country or something? Obliterated/destroyed in the sense of "wreck'd" not WMD them into non existence
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50436403]If anything I have a hard time believing he'd legitimately support anyone given how much they supposedly hate America and capitalism, especially not Trump. [/QUOTE] Really? You think an editorial is going to pass through the DPRK state-run newspaper that Kim doesn't indirectly sign off on? You can't be that naive, surely. Face facts: North Korea wants America to vote in an idiot, particularly an idiot who suggests withdrawing support from South Korea.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50436436]Really? You think an editorial is going to pass through the DPRK state-run newspaper that Kim doesn't indirectly sign off on? You can't be that naive, surely. [/QUOTE] Didn't say nor suggest that ffs
Of course the US will protect South Korea but they have to pay. South Korea and Japan are economic giants, they can afford to pay the US. The US shouldn't be shelling out money protecting someone else.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50436456]Didn't say nor suggest that ffs[/QUOTE] You have a hard time believing he (Kim) would legitimately support anyone, especially Trump, when the state-run newspaper legitimately supports Trump, and Kim almost assuredly influences what the paper is allowed to right even in an indirect way.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50436494]You have a hard time believing he (Kim) would legitimately support anyone, especially Trump, when the state-run newspaper legitimately supports Trump, and Kim almost assuredly influences what the paper is allowed to right even in an indirect way.[/QUOTE] By suggesting Kim may not legitimately support him I also suggest the paper doesn't. "Legitimately" in the sense of claiming to support someone knowing your own reputation would make your support do more harm than help. If that's what's going on its working, if not and he really wants trump based off that alone he's a tool for running it. Edit: Ofc if Kim was bsing he wouldn't need to tell the writers
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50436403] Did you think I meant literally carpet bombing the entire country or something? Obliterated/destroyed in the sense of "wreck'd" not WMD them into non existence[/QUOTE] so trump is unpredictable and likely to destroy them, but not like [I]destroy[/I] destroy them? please tell me what you mean by "wreck'd" if it doesn't involve the death of millions of koreans
[QUOTE=orgornot;50436473]Of course the US will protect South Korea but they have to pay. South Korea and Japan are economic giants, they can afford to pay the US. The US shouldn't be shelling out money protecting someone else.[/QUOTE] We're not "just protecting someone else", there is huge strategic value for the US to be in Japan and South Korea, we benefit from it as much as they do.
[QUOTE=orgornot;50436473]Of course the US will protect South Korea but they have to pay. South Korea and Japan are economic giants, they can afford to pay the US. The US shouldn't be shelling out money protecting someone else.[/QUOTE] Trade with a stable South Korea and Japan earns more money for the US than the US spends protecting them.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50436403]If anything I have a hard time believing he'd legitimately support anyone given how much they supposedly hate America and capitalism, especially not Trump.[/QUOTE] He doesn't actually hate capitalism though, he grew up in a private school in Europe. This is all just a dictator enjoying absolute power at the cost of millions of people.
Now he's been endorsed by two dictators and several far-right European nationalists while being denounced by [i]almost every allied state the US has[/i]. His international endorsements included Vladimir Putin, Kim-Jong Un, Geert Wilders, and Jean-Marie Le Pen. Nobody else. Trump is a joke internationally. Nobody supports him but fascists and dictators. His primary job would be international relations - and he's already shown to react like a child when people criticize his policies. He cancelled a flight to Israel because he office of PM Netanyahu sent out a calmly-worded tweet about not supporting his policies. He's said that he might not "have a very good relationship" with Cameron and the UK following Cameron calling his policies "stupid and divisive." Hopefully people will realize that endorsements from [i]literal dictators[/i] are not positive.
Kim-Jong Un could probably learn a thing or two about cults of personality from Trump.
This is actually Great news. President Trump will also make N.K. great by engaging in a conversation with them and giving them business advice.
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