• Former anorexia sufferer: Airbrushing should be banned
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Magazine airbrushing makes already good looking people look fantastic and unacheivable good looking. I have no problem seeing this cause a large culture shock as people are faced with the idea they can never live up to their idols. Why not ban it, it's bullshit anyways. [editline]2nd May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=J!NX;35803881]if you can't realize somethings wrong by the time you look like a twig, then IMHO you're pretty crazy. I can understand it creates a subconscious effect and causes you to believe that society truly calls for a body like that, but people who are anorexic generally seem to act really stupid / gullible in my experience. Intelligent people are able to filter out bullshit and not try to live to some ridiculous standard. common sense says that if you don't eat, you die... by not eating, that's exactly what happens. I'd say the same thing for people who go tanning far too much, if you can't realize somethings [I]WRONG[/I] and keep doing it, then I don't know man. who cares?[/QUOTE] So you don't get that a depressed persons brain actively fucks with them? Some one with anorexia isn't seeing what you are. And they certainly don't feel that way. And it's certainly not their fault. Fuck you're so wrong.
Well I was raised with a very strong "all ads are bad" mentality, so the most I take from multiple ads of the some business is that it's a big one that won't do scams that would hurt their publicity (they'll just screw you over in the fine print, but if you order a product you'll get it). If I plan on buying something I either pick something cheap, something friends had good experienced with, or something I evaluated through decentralized reviews on the net by customers or reviewers I deem reliable. So while I can understand this wish, I'd much rather like it if people approached advertisements with a different mentality. Everything you see and hear is fake and a lie until proven otherwise.
air brushing looks so fucking fake and out of place I honestly cannot believe it's so popular it makes them look almost like they are CGI or some shit
[QUOTE=Mingebox;35803608]But isn't airbrushing about skin complexion?[/QUOTE] Why has no one replied to this? most relevant post itt
[QUOTE=Mingebox;35803608]But isn't airbrushing about skin complexion?[/QUOTE] I believe they're referring to the PhotoShop Tool, However I'm not really that familiar with Photoshop. The Term has become the widely used term for Photoshopped.
[QUOTE=NorseTech;35804421]Why has no one replied to this? most relevant post itt[/QUOTE] Its basically where they remove any and all imperfections using image manipulation, they do also thin the models out even more than they already are. Mostly used in magazines read by impressionable teenage girls who go to such lengths to emulate this impossible standard of beauty that they end up damaging their own bodies needlessly.
Soon advertisers will be Gimping the photos :v:
Well I don't really think completely forbidding airbrushing is a good idea because they will just find another way around to screw around with pictures. The best idea would be to put a "THIS PICTURE HAS BEEN MODIFIED" mention at the bottom or at the top of every picture in a black and white box (yes, kinda like the ones you find on cigarette packs). Any picture that has been modified either using a software or via eye-trickery like adapted lighting would fall into this category and would have to bear this mention, making it very clear that NO, this is not reality.
This is the nature of society today. What do people expect? It's the same how we're all told to 'put a smile on' and 'be happy joy joy' all the time, it's because when we were growing up we were told that crying was a 'negative thing' and it essentially became suppressed/repressed. Another example is how we're all told that death is such a bad thing and something to be sad about. If we had been raised to treat death as an ascension, to celebrate and rejoice when people died, would be we sad about it? Would we fear death? Would people murder? Would the concept of sad/happy exist if no-one had named them those words in the first place? Could depression or insanity possibly exist under these circumstances? Or did these things only exist when someone invented and named them? How does this relate to the article? Anorexia, treated as a medical condition, something that is causal, and something that under some cases 'isn't the sufferers fault'. The effects are weight loss, illness, death, etc. IMO, Anorexia is not a 'cause', it in itself is an effect. It is an effect of society and media influence, and proof of how people live 'unconsciously' in today's society. Whilst you could attribute 'blame' to the companies advertising, the girl is still responsible for what she allows to influence her. If she was brought up differently, she would have been indifferent to the advertising etc. There is tragically no solution for such emergences in the near future. Even if such adverts were banned, it would make no difference on the whole and symptoms would manifest elsewhere whilst people still choose to live their lives unconsciously. [B]Edit:[/B] Also there are tons of fit lasses around, I bet half the posters ARENT airbrushed at all.
Fuck all you who say this girl and others are stupid because of what they see in the media. Clearly you know nothing about how the teenage mind works. I have a good friend who is battling anorexia right now and the problem with this kind of advertising is that it's shoved at us 24/7 and people with low self esteem wonder why they are not like the people in those ads. They start to believe they need to lose weight and such to be like the celebrities. They want to be perfect, they don't see the same things we do when they look at themselves.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;35808134]The best idea would be to put a "THIS PICTURE HAS BEEN MODIFIED" mention at the bottom or at the top of every picture in a black and white box (yes, kinda like the ones you find on cigarette packs). Any picture that has been modified either using a software or via eye-trickery like adapted lighting would fall into this category and would have to bear this mention, making it very clear that NO, this is not reality.[/QUOTE] Haha like the [B]Not ingame footage.[/B] disclaimer tv trailers for games have to use?
I agree, it should have some kind of heavy restriction. At least Dove have brains and don't do this crap.
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Anyone cares to show some of these shopped images? No really, I don't watch tv or go to female oriented sites so it's really rare that I see these kinds of ads. Just curious how they look.
In other news, Adobe declares bankrupty - Experts claim due to sharp drop in Photoshop sales
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35808913] "VICTIMS OF RACISM SHOULD JUST DEAL WITH IT AND STOP GIVING A FUCK IF THEY GET BEAT UP. FUCKING PUSSIES."[/QUOTE] That's a terrible analogy. Unrealistic women in ads =/= racial discrimination. It's not even similar.
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35808913]Are you retarded and/or ignorant, pretending to be either or just a troll? My ex was bulimic and dumb shit in ads and such made her feel even worse about herself. It's not like you CHOOSE to interpret the women in magazines and film as the ideal, you just do. "VICTIMS OF RACISM SHOULD JUST DEAL WITH IT AND STOP GIVING A FUCK IF THEY GET BEAT UP. FUCKING PUSSIES."[/QUOTE] I was pretty tired at the time reread everything after I woke, what the fuck was I even saying, wow, I'm dumb. WOW though, at the same time, I don't know how you can even compare anorexia to racism, anorexia isn't even slightly as bad as being beat up and called names because of color. You can recover from anorexia, you can't change your color and stop assholes from being assholes. thinking that your not good enough because of some stupid standard these asshole magazines make you think there is is bad, but being told that you're completely stupid and shouldn't live and get beaten up because your brown or something IMHO is so much more terrifying. [QUOTE=_Twitch_;35804221]You have no idea how much ignorance you're displaying. You're calling an ADHD kid dumb for not calming down. You're calling a kleptomanic dumb for not being able to control his stealing. You're calling a schizophrenic dumb for hearing voices. You're calling an OCD dumb for not being able to stop washing his hands. The brain doesn't always do the logical thing, we aren't computers. People have problems and they need help, not your insensitive drabble.[/QUOTE] except every single one of those are not nearly as physically apparent as anorexia, I was being a dumb fuck and they're based on the subconsious yes, you can't physically see there's an issue with those things as easily. Anorexia would be more on the level of eating in mass amounts or cutting, as those are just as destructive and bad. Plus you don't develop any of those things because you're told you have to live by a certain standard. [editline]3rd May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35808794]Anyone cares to show some of these shopped images? No really, I don't watch tv or go to female oriented sites so it's really rare that I see these kinds of ads. Just curious how they look.[/QUOTE] there was this video where they take a normal girl and make her look 'perfect' and put it on a magazine, forgot what it was called
Ban is not gonna happen, but I fully support having disclaimers similar to those on cigarette packs; "THIS PICTURE HAS BEEN DIGITALLY ALTERED AND DOES NOT REPRESENT AN ACTUAL FEMALE/MALE BODY"
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35809193]okay it was dumb let's use depression instead: do you believe you can tell a depressed person to cheer up and he/she will stop being sad?[/QUOTE] now that I'm awake I know that you'll probably just a depressed person worse by going "lol cheer up" [editline]3rd May 2012[/editline] as opposed to actually giving proper therapy to the issue
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35809193]okay it was dumb let's use depression instead: do you believe you can tell a depressed person to cheer up and he/she will stop being sad?[/QUOTE] Are you implying banning photoshops will cheer up a depressed person? No one's banning stuff that makes me depressed.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35810016]Are you implying banning photoshops will cheer up a depressed person? No one's banning stuff that makes me depressed.[/QUOTE] it'll help at least
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35810050]banning dumb things like making people believe being unhealthily thin is beautiful will prevent people from committing suicide because they're not "pretty" enough[/QUOTE] Then a damn lot of shit will have to get banned. I'd rather use the idea with labeling the pictures.
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;35803577]These photoshopped pictures make me feel bad, ban them! Honestly, if you're dumb enough to buy into that kind of advertising...[/QUOTE] Honestly, if you're dumb enough to feel like any girl does.... Apparently you haven't met a girl in your life. They have to feel beautiful. When they grow up seeing all of these "beautiful girls" on magazines that are airbrushed then they need to feel that skinny. Whether it's airbrushed or not a lot of the time it looks real and that messes with girls' heads. Then anorexia happens sometimes.
[QUOTE=Archonos 2;35810084]Honestly, if you're dumb enough to feel like any girl does.... Apparently you haven't met a girl in your life. They have to feel beautiful. When they grow up seeing all of these "beautiful girls" on magazines that are airbrushed then they need to feel that skinny. Whether it's airbrushed or not a lot of the time it looks real and that messes with girls' heads. Then anorexia happens sometimes.[/QUOTE] But why? No one's in real life like that. You'd expect them to look at other girls before ads, no?
Help what? Fuck all. Bury down to the cause and you find that all these little things that trigger whatever symptoms come from the same thing:- The human who is affected by them. Why can some people stand on stage and address hundreds of thousands whilst another shits their pants talking to a single person? Why can some people carry out complex mathematical equations whilst another can barely read a sentence? Why is one person so affected by advertising that they crash diet and nearly die, whilst another sits back heartily eating a chicken leg and sipping a diet coke? [B]Edit:[/B] We live in a blame culture, where it is alright to sue someone if your dumbass kid climbs a tree and happens to fall out of it. It's ridiculous and it's insane.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;35810186]Help what? questions[/QUOTE] Do you expect answers to these?
[QUOTE=Archonos 2;35810084]Honestly, if you're dumb enough to feel like any girl does.... Apparently you haven't met a girl in your life. They have to feel beautiful. When they grow up seeing all of these "beautiful girls" on magazines that are airbrushed then they need to feel that skinny. Whether it's airbrushed or not a lot of the time it looks real and that messes with girls' heads. Then anorexia happens sometimes.[/QUOTE] This is moronic. You just categorised half the world's population. It's like assuming the 'friend zone' exists. [editline]3rd May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35810218]Do you expect answers to these?[/QUOTE] Answer them yourself.
Not all girls are affected by ads, otherwise all we'd see is anorexic or dead ones.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;35804414]air brushing looks so fucking fake and out of place I honestly cannot believe it's so popular it makes them look almost like they are CGI or some shit[/QUOTE] 5 year old girls growing up might disagree
[QUOTE=Lambeth;35810301]5 year old girls growing up might disagree[/QUOTE] 5 year old girls with bad parenting?
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