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[QUOTE=avincent;45098092]I know you're being sarcastic but there are way more stories of people being fucked by it than helped by it.[/QUOTE] like what
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;45098208]according to who[/QUOTE] I don't even think the WHO would agree to that :v:
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;45098382]good job not reading thread buddy[/QUOTE] Somehow I missed that, sir
nice agenda piece gg huffpo
National healthcare wouldn't work in a nation of >300,000,000 people, many of whom are illegal aliens.
[QUOTE=Pelican;45098356]how can anyone with a straight face say that national healthcare is bad? I know it's only Americans saying this - is it just the braindead republicans?[/QUOTE] Yep. You can easily isolate the people here who listen to the drivel of Rush Limbaugh and his posse of rich clowns because they spout stupid shit like, "healthcare is bad" and challenge any argument with "muh taxes." I'm not even joking, it's fucking sad that it's that easy. [editline]13th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Pantz Master;45098430]National healthcare wouldn't work in a nation of >300,000,000 people, many of whom are illegal aliens.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure that Illegals are better citizens than you are. They work for less than minimum wage and are fully willing to pay taxes, whatever the rate may be. (And yes, they do pay taxes, to get a job the employer will usually "obtain" and "lend" them an ID from a dead citizen for tax purposes, that way the company is able to write off the costs as employee wages. This takes a minimum of bribery on the government side and the company saves millions hiring illegals for shit jobs they'd have to actually pay someone a livable wage for otherwise.)
I would have died if not for the NHS due to a serious asthma attack. National health services are fucking brilliant.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;45098430]National healthcare wouldn't work in a nation of >300,000,000 people, many of whom are illegal aliens.[/QUOTE] We already take care of the illegal aliens, because they still go to the ER and we still have to help them legally, even without identification. You already pay for their care.
[QUOTE=avincent;45098092]I know you're being sarcastic but there are way more stories of people being fucked by it than helped by it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=avincent;45098134]National healthcare is fucking retarded and doesn't work. I do agree we need something but NATION-wide is not the answer.[/QUOTE] people naturally look at the negative over the positive more stories does not mean it happens more often automatically. also, like really, do you expect journalists to cover only positive news? they'll be ALL OVER people being screwed over, that's how they work
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;45098430]National healthcare wouldn't work in a nation of >300,000,000 people, many of whom are illegal aliens.[/QUOTE] 1) National healthcare already works in the United States and has done so since before you were born 2) Undocumented workers pay taxes without taking any of the benefits. [QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;45098374]National healthcare isn't bad. National healthcare run by our government is bad. See: VA.[/QUOTE] Decades of near unanimous approval for Medicare and Medicaid trumps your conservative talking point that isn't even relevent because issues with VA hospitals are local, not federal. Do more research that isn't listening to Fox News/Rush Limbaugh soundbites please. [editline]13th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=draugur;45098436]Yep. You can easily isolate the people here who listen to the drivel of Rush Limbaugh and his posse of rich clowns because they spout stupid shit like, "healthcare is bad" and challenge any argument with "muh taxes." I'm not even joking, it's fucking sad that it's that easy.[/QUOTE] It's really fucked up because most people in this thread talking about how national healthcare wouldn't work for an entirely unsubstantiated reason almost certainly know someone who has benefited from atleast Medicare. I don't know if it's because Medicare is such a ubiquitous benefit or people are really just that ignorant.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;45098385]like what[/QUOTE] The absolute cheapest policy my mom can get (Ciliac's, Severe Crohn's, possibly fibromyalga) is $450 a month. No way in hell she can afford that, she can't work in her condition, and my dad makes too much money for state/federal aid. It might work for the richer states, but here in New Mexico we're proper fucked.
[QUOTE=bitches;45098116]regardless of flaws, even major, it is a step forward why is it so bad for people to receive health care? why do people think you should need money to be alive and well? it's a matter of compassion, the problem is the politics attached that mangle that goal[/QUOTE] Um you do need money to stay alive, Obama care Isn't free healthcare...Its mandatory healthcare. You have to pay extra taxes for Obama care if you don't have private healthcare and decide to register for it. And if you decide to not register for healthcare at all, the government will slap you with a big fine at the end of the year.
[QUOTE=draugur;45098436]Pretty sure that Illegals are better citizens than you are.[/QUOTE] Why such a hostile response?
[QUOTE=dark soul;45098815]Um you do need money to stay alive, Obama care Isn't free healthcare...Its mandatory healthcare. You have to pay extra taxes for Obama care if you don't have private healthcare and decide to register for it. And if you decide to not register for healthcare at all, the government will slap you with a big fine at the end of the year.[/QUOTE] Wasn't the fine at the end of the year so ridiculously low that people preferred that then paying for the private insurance?
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;45098877]Why such a hostile response?[/QUOTE] Because you're being a heartless and ignorant pillock.
[QUOTE=draugur;45098902]Because you're being a heartless and ignorant pillock.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry you feel that way. I was simply expressing my concern over the logistics of national healthcare over a country as large and populous as the US. [editline]13th June 2014[/editline] I have nothing against illegals, I just think they would be another roadblock.
I'd much rather have full-on national healthcare than any of this stuff that's come out recently like Obamacare. Because of that shit, my private health insurance provided by my job has become next to useless. I have to practically drain myself of every penny I have before they'll cover anything anymore.
[QUOTE=ExplosiveCheese;45098889]Wasn't the fine at the end of the year so ridiculously low that people preferred that then paying for the private insurance?[/QUOTE] I think it's around $500 where I live.
[QUOTE=MaddaCheeb;45098106]Oh my god that image in the article is gross.[/QUOTE] it looks like a fucking hellspawn demon baby antichrist.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;45099108]it looks like a fucking hellspawn demon baby antichrist.[/QUOTE] I thought it looked cool.
[QUOTE=avincent;45098092]I know you're being sarcastic but there are way more stories of people being fucked by it than helped by it.[/QUOTE] Looks like the Koch brothers are doing their job.
[QUOTE=bitches;45098116]regardless of flaws, even major, it is a step forward why is it so bad for people to receive health care? why do people think you should need money to be alive and well? it's a matter of compassion, the problem is the politics attached that mangle that goal[/QUOTE] I don't have a problem with national healthcare. It's just Obamacare became such a goddamn mess its almost worse than what was going on before.
[QUOTE=avincent;45098134][B]National healthcare is fucking retarded and doesn't work. [/B]I do agree we need something but NATION-wide is not the answer.[/QUOTE] Would anyone else agree that this is, quite possibly, the worst post of the year? There are whole countries out there that have socialized healthcare, and it works completely fine.
[QUOTE=Explosions;45099158]Looks like the Koch brothers are doing their job.[/QUOTE] Oh, I didn't know Harry Reid had a facepunch account.
[QUOTE=avincent;45098134]National healthcare is fucking retarded and doesn't work. I do agree we need something but NATION-wide is not the answer.[/QUOTE] So, why does every other country that possesses it do pretty well with it?
[QUOTE=avincent;45098092]I know you're being sarcastic but there are way more stories of people being fucked by it than helped by it.[/QUOTE] Way more? I doubt it.
[QUOTE=avincent;45098225]You also have higher taxes[/QUOTE] Also have higher minimum wages.
[QUOTE=bitches;45098116]regardless of flaws, even major, it is a step forward [B]why is it so bad for people to receive health care?[/B] why do people think you should need money to be alive and well? it's a matter of compassion, the problem is the politics attached that mangle that goal[/QUOTE] This isn't why many are against the Affordable Care Act. See this list for a few reasons why some don't support it: [URL="http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-pros-and-cons.php"]http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-pros-and-cons.php [/URL]You don't have to dislike the idea of national healthcare to dislike the Affordable Care Act, if you're concerned with the cons listed in that article.
A liposarcoma, eh? I was thinking it'd be more of an ovarian mass because those tend to be more common in causing large tumors of this size. In any case, at least it didn't rupture the IVC before the surgery was done, or she'd likely have bled out. As it is, her breathing and heartbeat apparently stopped once during the procedure as they were removing the tumor. Also, christ that's one ugly lump of cancerous flesh.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;45099061]I'm sorry you feel that way. I was simply expressing my concern over the logistics of national healthcare over a country as large and populous as the US.[/QUOTE] Even if that was a problem. We have these weird little things. They're called "states". And each one has it's own little Government. Even if the Federal Government couldn't manage National Healthcare, they could mandate it and have each State run their own healthcare service.
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