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[QUOTE=Revanold;45101123]We get it, you're a doctor[/QUOTE] Shush, I like it when he doctor's around about stuff, it's cool.
[QUOTE=spazthemax;45098273]If it werent for national healthcare, I'd be fucking dead, so Im pretty sure its a good thing.[/QUOTE] Same here, coincidentally just in the day before yesterday I got food poisoning from a burger I have eaten at a restaurant at night. The next day my brother just drove me to a hospital where they administered the medication. At the same day i was just fine and today just went to work as usual.
[QUOTE=Andre Gomes;45106167]Same here, coincidentally just in the day before yesterday I got food poisoning from a burger I have eaten at a restaurant at night. The next day my brother just drove me to a hospital where they administered the medication. At the same day i was just fine and today just went to work as usual.[/QUOTE] To add to it, 2 friends of mine, one from the netherlands and one from the US got into a bar fight here in Amsterdam and both manage to broke a rib and nose (the american one was better off), my Dutch friend walked out of the hospital and all he had to do was to give them him assurance number while my american friend needs to shovel about 1000 to 2000 dollar for the treatment and all that my Dutch friend does in terms of plans is to pay his taxes which covers the healthcare plan while sooner of later my american friend will have a big bill send home. Its a strange world we live in..
[QUOTE=avincent;45098225]You also have higher taxes[/QUOTE] Yeah and thanks to that I didn't die an early death because I was born with two holes in my heart, so fuck off.
[QUOTE=bitches;45098116]regardless of flaws, even major, it is a step forward why is it so bad for people to receive health care? why do people think you should need money to be alive and well? it's a matter of compassion, the problem is the politics attached that mangle that goal[/QUOTE] its because under it everyone isrequired by law to be ensured by a certain date, and there are a lot of people who simply cant afford it
The NHS is the best thing about this country. Free healthcare should be mandatory in the more economically developed countries
[QUOTE=Elfy;45109882]The NHS is the best thing about this country. Free healthcare should be mandatory in the more economically developed countries[/QUOTE] Shame it's being privatised through the back door. Whoops sorry Tories I meant [B]"marketised"[/B]... Access to healthcare should be considered a human right in all countries imo (if it isn't already)
[QUOTE=avincent;45098134]National healthcare is fucking retarded and doesn't work. I do agree we need something but NATION-wide is not the answer.[/QUOTE] Ahaha okay buddy if you say so. If anything's retarded, it's paying money to stay alive when your body fucks up.
[QUOTE=Elfy;45109882]The NHS is the best thing about this country. Free healthcare should be mandatory in the more economically developed countries[/QUOTE] its hearing about Americans having to pay hundreds of dollars for breaking a wrist that make me so glad we have the NHS. I can now furiously masturbate all I want.
[QUOTE=Elfy;45109882]The NHS is the best thing about this country. Free healthcare should be mandatory in the more economically developed countries[/QUOTE] For sure. Trouble is, the Tories have been cutting funding like crazy and selling bits of it off, with the eventual goal of making healthcare how it is in the US. It's completely destroying it. Then you get people pointing fingers at it, saying its the fact that it's state funded that's the problem.
[QUOTE=Cabbage;45111254]its hearing about Americans having to pay hundreds of dollars for breaking a wrist that make me so glad we have the NHS. I can now furiously masturbate all I want.[/QUOTE] Hundreds is optimistic, it can go into the thousands if you go to the emergency room and require xrays.
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;45111278]For sure. Trouble is, the Tories have been cutting funding like crazy and selling bits of it off, with the eventual goal of making healthcare how it is in the US. It's completely destroying it. Then you get people pointing fingers at it, saying its the fact that it's state funded that's the problem.[/QUOTE] I reckon a lot of the funding cuts are being done just so that they can come back later and say "see guys this department/hospital/whole NHS doesn't work and performs poorly and it's not efficient" and use it as an excuse to sell it all the fuck off to their friends in the city and big US health insurers. A lot of so-called "libertarian"/ancap right wing influence seems to be penetrating the UK at least in many online and offline discussions I've seen or heard where people are like "why the fuck should I pay for anything that isn't for just for me personally? why the fuck are there any state funded services?". I hope they don't take any further hold.
if it weren't for gough whitlam i would not have two functioning testicles
[QUOTE=bitches;45098116]regardless of flaws, even major, it is a step forward why is it so bad for people to receive health care? why do people think you should need money to be alive and well? it's a matter of compassion, the problem is the politics attached that mangle that goal[/QUOTE] Obamacare isnt free, insurance still costs money and you arent just getting a free bill, and a lot of people are getting fucked hard by there original insurance companies with monthly fees going up by over $1000 more, which is fucking insane, so insane you are gonna be forced to cancel and go on obamacare. Its actually forcing people without a lot money to get insurance which fucks them over even harder with money.
[QUOTE=Ajacks;45098377]We already pay for all the people in poverty who go to the ER for a head cold or a place warm place to sleep. They can't be refused and the cost gets put to the government, and unless you are extremely lucky you still have to pay for your healthcare through your employer, or pay for private insurance so any increased tax rate that would come from a national healthcare system that allotted care for everyone, wouldn't be that be of a financial difference to most, if any difference out of pocket. We need national healthcare. Also having a government healthcare system could also help regulate the insane costs for healthcare equipment used in the industry. My dad is a clinical instructor and BSN RN and talks about the ridiculous cost things get billed for. For example, a pair of silicone rubber gloves in a routine once an hour patient examination was billed for $15, and things like one-use IV lines that are billed for $350 that are reused in other hospital systems around the world instead of simply tossed after each daily use. It's ridiculous and causes things like my fathers $9,000 a month injection medication for arthritis, that he still has to pay $450 a month out of pocket for. I had my lung collapse a few years back, and my emergency operation and four day stay at the hospital cost $95,000. Breaking my finger and going to the ER, and having surgury cost $33,000. Luckily I am still under my fathers medical insurance, so it only cost us around $5,000 out of pocket for those two incidents, but you can't tell me you would want to face bills like that without help.[/QUOTE] The complete lack of price regulation for medical stuff in the US is frankly astounding. This is basically price-fixing, something that is totally illegal in almost every other developed nation, and should always be illegal in the medical market as its such a critical component of developed countries. I can only hope that some day your government and voting population actually see the benefits of regulated capitalism and nationalised healthcare, remember, it isn't taking your choices away, it's giving you a fall back in case you can't afford private care.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;45111367]I reckon a lot of the funding cuts are being done just so that they can come back later and say "see guys this department/hospital/whole NHS doesn't work and performs poorly and it's not efficient" and use it as an excuse to sell it all the fuck off to their friends in the city and big US health insurers.[/QUOTE] This is a play straight out of Republican books here in the US so it wouldn't be surprising. It would be hard to completely kill a service or a department so instead they fill congressional committees with enough conservatives to push funding lower and lower and then criticize it for not being effective.
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Fuck people who don't think national healthcare is beneficial. That's all I can say as someone who's part of a family that makes less than 15k a year.
[QUOTE=avincent;45098225]You also have higher taxes[/QUOTE] we have a single-payer healthcare system that is basically the same as canada's. it's called medicare; it covers far less people and yet consumes nearly one third of our multi-trillion dollar budget. and yet somehow these other countries make them more efficient. our taxes are lower because politicians stupidly lower taxes and raise spending simultaneously. your move. [QUOTE=Pantz Master;45098430]National healthcare wouldn't work in a nation of >300,000,000 people, many of whom are illegal aliens.[/QUOTE] single-payer healthcare is the way of the future. the government handles the insurance, the private companies handle the care. (should be) obligatory: [video=youtube;wBr3fniyb4w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBr3fniyb4w[/video]
[QUOTE=avincent;45098134]National healthcare is fucking retarded and doesn't work. I do agree we need something but NATION-wide is not the answer.[/QUOTE] Yeah, thats why my uncle is literally, im not fucking kidding, 1.2 million dollars in debt from being stuck in the hospital with a very deadly and hard to cure bacteria. Yeah private healthcare is JUST swell.
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