Republicans Know More About Politics Than Democrats, Says Study
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I took their quiz.
[img]http://pewresearch.org/politicalquiz/quiz/Political-Quiz-Charts_13.png[/img]
i'm just a dumb gay libtard though so this quiz is obviously liberally-biased.
[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35693929]
the only reason liberals are "stubborn" in their beliefs is because most liberal ideologies are objectively better than republican ones[/QUOTE]
Oh god are you serious?
Implying there's objectivity in politics.
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[editline]23rd April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35693957']Oh god are you serious?
Implying there's objectivity in politics.[/QUOTE]
you'd have to be pretty retarded to not see how some things are objectively better than others
And, as any good sociologist or surveyor will tell, you can very easily coach a study towards a result based simply on how you word it, conduct it, everything.
There was a study done several months ago that showed Fox News viewers are more ill-informed than people who don't watch the news at all so these pitiful surveys taken of 100 people mean fuck all even if they support my ideology.
neeeeerrrrdddd
[QUOTE=Trogdon;35693765]clearly your prejudiced ideas of the opposing party to yours supports this statement, as you aren't very receptive to compared criticism regarding your party[/QUOTE]
his comment was perfectly justified, it wasn't even part of the study, it was just the article throwing in their own biased interpretation of the results
where in the study does it indicate any of this:
[quote]The Pew survey adds to a wave of surveys and studies showing that GOP-sympathizers are better informed, more intellectually consistent, more open-minded, more empathetic and more receptive to criticism than their fellow Americans who support the Democratic Party.[/quote]
[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35693958]-snip-
[editline]23rd April 2012[/editline]
you'd have to be pretty retarded to not see how some things are objectively better than others[/QUOTE]
Guy, that's like saying "My subjective opinions are [I]obviously[/I] more objective than yours."
Obviously there are some things which are objective, like killing people doesn't cause overpopulation and rape doesn't make people happy unless you're a rapist. But that doesn't exist in politics- it pretty much doesn't exist in ideology/political philosophy.
Unless you can actually back something up that [I]clearly[/I] has no viable alternative (good luck), then there isn't anything 'objective' about politics at all.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;35693739]I won't argue all of it, but more open minded? More empathetic? These are the people who want to shape government after their own views at the cost of other people's rights.[/QUOTE]
It's heavily dependent on the individual. I've met quite a few close minded people on both sides of the aisle.
It wouldn't surprise me for this to be generally true. You have to be damn good at politics to gain so many supporters for some of their crazy ideas.
[QUOTE=Secrios;35693895]So your telling me, people that believe in death penalties, anti abortion, subtle racism, Jesus and lower taxes at the expense of dying people; are more intelligent about politics than I am?[/QUOTE]
First of all, if you're going to portray yourself as "intelligent" then don't use "you're" improperly. You've got some pretty sweeping generalizations in there as well. Not all Republicans are racist. I know a good few and to be honest they are honest good people. To paint the party as racist is retarded. Sure, some can be bigoted, but that goes for any party. Third, there is literally no reason to bring religion into this. One is not simply more intelligent than another due to their religious beliefs. Again, if you think that you're more intelligent than someone simply because of their private, religious beliefs then you've got another thing coming. While I do disagree with the views of the republican party, I don't find myself to be superior simply due to the fact that my alignment doesn't lie with them.
Get off your damned high horse.
Going by my Political Ideologies textbook (which happens to be right in front of me due to writing a paper just a moment ago) Conservatism ideology is by its definition a rejection of rationalism. Why do conservatives always seem to make no sense? Because that's what they're suppose to be doing. Conservatism is a reactionary ideology to the Enlightenment in the 1700s where rationality was made king.
Conservatism places morality above rationality and argue that "rationalizing" everything is just "making excuses" to do whatever one pleases, even when it's "morally wrong". And what is morally correct or incorrect is subjective to a people's traditions and customs.
Santorum is a textbook definition of a true conservative.
And A few months ago there was a study that said liberals were more intelligent than conservatives. Guess they're not the only ones who feel the need to use bullshit studies to validate their beliefs.
Report: People on both sides of the isle think their opponents are idiots. Welcome to American politics, where political teamwork goes to die in favor of self interest.
[QUOTE=AnalAnnihilator;35694053]First of all, if you're going to portray yourself as "intelligent" then don't use "you're" improperly. You've got some pretty sweeping generalizations in there as well. Not all Republicans are racist. I know a good few and to be honest they are honest good people. To paint the party as racist is retarded. Sure, some can be bigoted, but that goes for any party. Third, there is literally no reason to bring religion into this. One is not simply more intelligent than another due to their religious beliefs. Again, if you think that you're more intelligent than someone simply because of their private, religious beliefs then you've got another thing coming. While I do disagree with the views of the republican party, I don't find myself to be superior simply due to the fact that my alignment doesn't lie with them.
Get off your damned high horse.[/QUOTE]
people who try to bring their religions belief into politics (i.e. republicans) are pretty stupid
it's not that their religious, it's that they try to mix religion and politics
which is objectively fucking terrible
you'd have to be insane to disagree
I know quite a few Republicans that are exceptionally informed, and they're not the stereotypical rommey/santorum republicans.
[QUOTE=Secrios;35693895]So your telling me, people that believe in death penalties, anti abortion, subtle racism, Jesus and lower taxes at the expense of dying people; are more intelligent about politics than I am?[/QUOTE]
[i]"So your[b]'re[/b] telling me, people that I disagree with are more intelligent about politics than I am?"[/i]
I agree. Conservatives are the most tolerant, whether you are white, male, Christian, and even heterosexual.
Lol at the responses making the article sound more, and more accurate.
Also predictable dumbs from butthurt liberals incoming.
[QUOTE=OvB;35694153][i]"So your[b]'re[/b] telling me, people that I disagree with are more intelligent about politics than I am?"[/i][/QUOTE]
you don't need to have good grammar to know what he's talking about
Ehh, empathy, not so much, I guess
at least with GOP
[QUOTE=BigOwl;35694165]Lol at the responses making the article sound more, and more accurate.
Also predictable dumbs from butthurt liberals incoming.[/QUOTE]
bullshit articles tend to get dissected by people who know better
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35694061]Going by my Political Ideologies textbook (which happens to be right in front of me due to writing a paper just a moment ago) Conservatism ideology is by its definition a rejection of rationalism. Why do conservatives always seem to make no sense? Because that's what they're suppose to be doing. Conservatism is a reactionary ideology to the Enlightenment in the 1700s where rationality was made king.
Conservatism places morality above rationality and argue that "rationalizing" everything is just "making excuses" to do whatever one pleases, even when it's "morally wrong". And what is morally correct or incorrect is subjective to a people's traditions and customs.
Santorum is a textbook definition of a true conservative.[/QUOTE]
Er, I don't think you're thinking of the same conservatism. Conservatism has no internationally similar qualities besides the maintenance or promotion of traditional values. In many nations, conservatism is what Americans consider to be liberalism. There's no opposition to rationality- in fact, American conservatives tend to use factual and rational explanations for their classical liberal economic philosophies, and their social philosophies are centered around existing culture, not a specific ideology exactly. Conservatism in America has itself changed over time. While early, early, early conservatism did argue against rationalism, which was a relatively new philosophy at the time, it has about nothing to do with modern conservatism anymore. Comparing the two is apples to oranges.
[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694167]you don't need to have good grammar to know what he's talking about[/QUOTE]
My post had very little to do with grammar.
[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694178]bullshit articles tend to get dissected by people who know better[/QUOTE]
:v: example duly noted
[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694137]people who try to bring their religions belief into politics (i.e. republicans) are pretty stupid
it's not that their religious, it's that they try to mix religion and politics
which is objectively fucking terrible
you'd have to be insane to disagree[/QUOTE]
Wow, you are as ignorant as you appeared.
Firstly and foremost, not all conservatives, and really not conservatism as a whole, has to do with religion.
But explain to me the difference between promoting an ideology based on the morals instilled by religion, versus one instilled by upbringing? i.e. Christianity vs Progressivism? It's all ideology and philosophy, there's no reason other than more philosophical beliefs to say that religion should stay out of politics. You're arguing that this philosophy should not be involved in a power game of philosophies, based on your own philosophies.
And you try to put objectivity in there. That's a laugh.
Even the conservatives on Reddit are discrediting this survey. Which unsurprisingly happens to be their top post. [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/sp0gu/science_says_that_gop_voters_are_better_informed/[/url]
[QUOTE=Combine_dumb;35694232]Even the conservatives on Reddit are discrediting this survey. Which unsurprisingly happens to be their top post. [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/sp0gu/science_says_that_gop_voters_are_better_informed/[/url][/QUOTE]
Reddit.
Also Conservatives are calling themselves stupid? Example duly noted.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35694215']Wow, you are as ignorant as you appeared.
Firstly and foremost, not all conservatives, and really not conservatism as a whole, has to do with religion.
But explain to me the difference between promoting an ideology based on the morals instilled by religion, versus one instilled by upbringing? i.e. Christianity vs Progressivism? It's all ideology and philosophy, there's no reason other than more philosophical beliefs to say that religion should stay out of politics. You're arguing that this philosophy should not be involved in a power game of philosophies, based on your own philosophies.
And you try to put objectivity in there. That's a laugh.[/QUOTE]
certain religious "morals" have no place in a modern society
i'm speaking mostly of social conservatives here
ones against abortion, gay marriage, and the like
Somebody is going to shit post in this thread.
[QUOTE=BigOwl;35694165]Lol at the responses making the article sound more, and more accurate.
Also predictable dumbs from butthurt liberals incoming.[/QUOTE]
Example duly noted.
Now cut it out.
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