Republicans Know More About Politics Than Democrats, Says Study - Polidicks

I'm also wondering why he replied with that conjecture to my post since nowhere in my post did I talk about people bringing religion into politics. I was merely pointing out the flawed logic in thinking of oneself as more politically "intelligent" because they don't believe in Jesus. I really don't see why he used republicans as a whole as an example either. I'm pretty sure that a good portion of all politicians are religious.

[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694263]certain religious "morals" have no place in a modern society i'm speaking mostly of social conservatives here ones against abortion, gay marriage, and the like[/QUOTE] Subjectivity. Prove that is objectively the case. Also, answering a question would be a great start.

[QUOTE=BigOwl;35694165]Lol at the responses making the article sound more, and more accurate. Also predictable dumbs from butthurt liberals incoming.[/QUOTE] "I know what I'm saying is stupid, but if I predict that people will call me stupid, then I will be the winner when they call me stupid! Foolproof plan!"

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;35694048]It's heavily dependent on the individual. I've met quite a few close minded people on both sides of the aisle.[/QUOTE] That's true, but generally the Republican Party doesn't support gay / abortion / whatever rights while the Democrats do.

[QUOTE=AnalAnnihilator;35694266]I'm also wondering why he replied with that conjecture to my post since nowhere in my post did I talk about people bringing religion into politics. I was merely pointing out the flawed logic in thinking of oneself as more politically "intelligent" because they don't believe in Jesus. I really don't see why he used republicans as a whole as an example either. I'm pretty sure that a good portion of all politicians are religious.[/QUOTE] dont try to rev up a groupthink gangbang cause that shit doesnt work on a forum like this the guy was explaining why he thought republicans were dumb and i was reiterating his point [editline]23rd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35694267']Subjectivity. Prove that is objectively the case. Also, answering a question would be a great start.[/QUOTE] common sense

[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694298] common sense[/QUOTE] Is not an argument. And is the exact opposite of objectivity. At what point did you drop the objectivity part and decide to use "common sense"? You do know that "common sense" is a scommon argument used by strict social conservatives, right? If it was so common, then why are conservatives such a large portion of society? I'm curious if you can string enough words together to argue, make a counter point, or properly dismiss anything I've asked of you, because right now you're just showing that you are indeed as bad as those you're berating.

[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694298]dont try to rev up a groupthink gangbang cause that shit doesnt work on a forum like this the guy was explaining why he thought republicans were dumb and i was reiterating his point[/QUOTE] I'm not sure what a "groupthink gangbang" is. I'd also really appreciate it if you'd stop collectively calling the entire republican party dumb. Just because they don't align with you politically doesn't make them dumb. Sure there are extremists, but the same goes for every political party. Oh, and the reasoning of the two of you is borderline retarded. "Believing in Jesus" is not exclusive to the republican party and certainly doesn't make someone dumb. You guys are hating on a large group of people with some pretty close minded reasons.

[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694298]dont try to rev up a groupthink gangbang cause that shit doesnt work on a forum like this the guy was explaining why he thought republicans were dumb and i was reiterating his point [editline]23rd April 2012[/editline] common sense[/QUOTE] Reminds me of all the republicans quoting "common sense" as to why gays shouldn't marry If the only explanation you can come up with is "common sense" then either you didn't think much about your beliefs or you're probably wrong.

[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;35694269]"I know what I'm saying is stupid, but if I predict that people will call me stupid, then I will be the winner when they call me stupid! Foolproof plan!"[/QUOTE] Not my reasoning at all, but thanks for reinforcing my convictions.

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35694317']Is not an argument. And is the exact opposite of objectivity. At what point did you drop the objectivity part and decide to use "common sense"? You do know that "common sense" is a scommon argument used by strict social conservatives, right? If it was so common, then why are conservatives such a large portion of society? I'm curious if you can string enough words together to argue, make a counter point, or properly dismiss anything I've asked of you, because right now you're just showing that you are indeed as bad as those you're berating.[/QUOTE] ok keeping gay marriage/abortion/whatever illegal wont benefit literally anyone except for people prejudiced against gays, or those who [I]don't fully understand how abortion works[/I] even then, it wont affect them i don't really know how to explain [I]why[/I] i mean, it just seems like the only logical conclusion you could draw from that data [editline]23rd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=BigOwl;35694337]Not my reasoning at all, but thanks for reinforcing my convictions.[/QUOTE] god shut up already

Holy shit I don't like conservative ideology as much the next guy but are we seriously arguing whether or not a certain political belief makes someone less intelligent than another? Serious get your heads out of your assses. A summary of American politics: *Look at that conservative idiot, god they're so stupid* *Look at that liberal idiot, god they're so stupid* Can't we just accept people think differently than other people? Let's put down the pitchforks and figure out how to work it out for the better of the fucking country that contains people from both groups. Fuck.

Telling someone to shut up is not how you debate.

[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;35694325]Reminds me of all the republicans quoting "common sense" as to why gays shouldn't marry If the only explanation you can come up with is "common sense" then either you didn't think much about your beliefs or you're probably wrong.[/QUOTE] dude how is it not common sense i mean how could anyone rationally think that because of someone's sexual orientation, they should be stripped of a certain right that's fucking common sense the same reason we know being prejudiced against people because of their race is wrong [editline]23rd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=AnalAnnihilator;35694352]Telling someone to shut up is not how you debate.[/QUOTE] all that guy is doing is shitposting and trying to troll

[QUOTE=Jenkem;35693685]Now let's watch the flood of people who disregard this study because it doesn't fit their viewpoint...[/QUOTE] Jenkem, you're proof as to why this study is wrong.

[QUOTE=Combine_dumb;35694232]Even the conservatives on Reddit are discrediting this survey. Which unsurprisingly happens to be their top post. [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/sp0gu/science_says_that_gop_voters_are_better_informed/[/url][/QUOTE] [quote]The left started using these "science says liberals are smarter" polls to devolve into a circle jerk of "see even science says we are right."[/quote] nice

[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694339]ok keeping gay marriage/abortion/whatever illegal wont benefit literally anyone except for people prejudiced against gays, or those who [I]don't fully understand how abortion works[/I] even then, it wont affect them i don't really know how to explain [I]why[/I] i mean, it just seems like the only logical conclusion you could draw from that data [editline]23rd April 2012[/editline] god shut up already[/QUOTE] Yeah just cover your ears. Block it all out. Blah blah blah I can't hear you.

[QUOTE=AnalAnnihilator;35694322]I'm not sure what a "groupthink gangbang" is. I'd also really appreciate it if you'd stop collectively calling the entire republican party dumb. Just because they don't align with you politically doesn't make them dumb. Sure there are extremists, but the same goes for every political party. Oh, and the reasoning of the two of you is borderline retarded. "Believing in Jesus" is not exclusive to the republican party and certainly doesn't make someone dumb. You guys are hating on a large group of people with some pretty close minded reasons.[/QUOTE] strawman

[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694355]dude how is it not common sense i mean how could anyone rationally think that because of someone's sexual orientation, they should be stripped of a certain right that's fucking common sense the same reason we know being prejudiced against people because of their race is wrong [editline]23rd April 2012[/editline] all that guy is doing is shitposting and trying to troll[/QUOTE] Boo hoo he disagrees, he's GOT to be a troll

[QUOTE=BigOwl;35694375]Yeah just cover your ears. Block it all out. Blah blah blah I can't hear you.[/QUOTE] LOL, DULY NOTED EPIC WIN GUYS, AMIRITE [editline]23rd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=OvB;35694350]Holy shit I don't like conservative ideology as much the next guy but are we seriously arguing whether or not a certain political belief makes someone less intelligent than another? Serious get your heads out of your assses. A summary of American politics: *Look at that conservative idiot, god they're so stupid* *Look at that liberal idiot, god they're so stupid* Can't we just accept people think differently than other people? Let's put down the pitchforks and figure out how to work it out for the better of the fucking country that contains people from both groups. Fuck.[/QUOTE] would you say that Rick Santorum is neither more or less ignorant than President Obama, he just has different opinions?

[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694339]ok keeping gay marriage/abortion/whatever illegal wont benefit literally anyone except for people prejudiced against gays, or those who [I]don't fully understand how abortion works[/I] even then, it wont affect them i don't really know how to explain [I]why[/I] i mean, it just seems like the only logical conclusion you could draw from that data [/QUOTE] I'm not asking you to argue your position on the issues, I'm asking you to argue your defense as to why your philosophy is superior. I'm not even conservative and I could easily argue those points from both a liberal and a conservative point of view. Because it's all objective. I think that you're just ignorant and as bad as radical social conservatives. The fact that you don't know how to explain why is exactly your problem. You have no rational or reasonable backing to your positions, you chose them purely based on emotion and not logic. Philosophy or ideology without backing. That makes you no different than most radical social conservatives- the only difference is that you're on the opposite side. The fact that this is the case and you tried to base your made-up political superiority on objectivity reinforces that. I suggest that you spend some time to think about why you believe what you believe and why that is the proper position to want to achieve. Just going off the emotional or common sense or "because that's how it is" is worth about nothing.

GOP voters (or people who consider themselves conservative politically) are probably more well informed than Democrat (or people who consider themselves liberal politically). It's certainly believable. That said this article shouldn't be used as the definitive guide. Folks on both sides are smart and dumb depending on who you talk to. Though this bit at the end [QUOTE]The Daily Caller also reports: "The Pew survey adds to a wave of surveys and studies showing that GOP-sympathizers are better informed, more intellectually consistent, more open-minded, more empathetic and more receptive to criticism than their fellow Americans who support the Democratic Party."[/QUOTE] is really dumb.

[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694381] would you say that Rick Santorum is neither more or less ignorant than President Obama, he just has different opinions?[/QUOTE] I would say that Romney is equally ignorant to Obama, but they have different opinions. It has nothing to do with ideology. Big shocker- people believe there are solutions other than or contrary to the ones you believe. That doesn't make them wrong, or stupid, or less than you. That's just you being an illogical, self-important morally insecure and emotions-driven ideologue, and not a rational or logical politically-minded person.

-snip- [editline]23rd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35694421']I would say that Romney is equally ignorant to Obama, but they have different opinions. It has nothing to do with ideology. Big shocker- people believe there are solutions other than or contrary to the ones you believe. That doesn't make them wrong, or stupid, or less than you. That's just you being an illogical, self-important morally insecure and illogical emotion-driven ideologue, and not a rational or logical politically-minded person.[/QUOTE] yeah man ad hominems totally work dude some things just make more sense than others if you want to waste time trying to be "rational" trying to explain why it would make sense to bring back segregation or something insane, you'd be an idiot something like that example - would just be fucking wrong you shouldn't have to explain why it's up to the person to understand why

[QUOTE=Kopimi;35694003]his comment was perfectly justified, it wasn't even part of the study, it was just the article throwing in their own biased interpretation of the results where in the study does it indicate any of this:[/QUOTE] it didn't, and i didn't say it supported the study, merely the statement. it's not a justified comment because it views the other side as complete idiots, and i don't care which party you are, blindly prejudicing the opposing party as bumbling idiots is stupid.

I see people with a wacky liberal bias and really it's just as bad as conservatives doing it. To them you are just going to look like the left wing version of Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. You can't just say "right wingers are stupid lol its common sense because jesus and abortion and they hate poor people". They can put forward equally horrible arguments against the left wing and you'll never get anywhere. You have to put ideas on the same level playing field and look at it logically. If an idea is bad then say "your idea is bad, and here is why" not just "im rite and ur wrong lol". You can't just shut off your brain the instant someone brings up an idea you don't like.

[QUOTE=Trogdon;35694462]it didn't, and i didn't say it supported the study, merely the statement. it's not a justified comment because it views the other side as complete idiots, and i don't care which party you are, blindly prejudicing the opposing party as bumbling idiots is stupid.[/QUOTE] but isn't one of the whole points of assuming a political position is that you think the alternative is... ignorant?

[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694423]-snip- [editline]23rd April 2012[/editline] yeah man ad hominems totally work dude some things just make more sense than others if you want to waste time trying to be "rational" trying to explain why it would make sense to bring back segregation or something insane, you'd be an idiot something like that example - would just be fucking wrong you shouldn't have to explain why it's up to the person to understand why[/QUOTE] Firstly, that wasn't an ad hominem. That was a criticism of your claims and your arguments. Which is the issue here. You don't seem to understand. People have different opinions and they are not always wrong. You keep doing that thing. That thing where you provide absolutely nothing except your own philosophical opinions to argue that no other philosophical opinion could be right because your philosophical opinion is the one you support. This is, of course, after you try to say your opinions were [I]objectively[/I] correct. You, affirming your position, ALWAYS have to explain why. That [I]IS[/I] the objective process. Not doing so puts you at the same level as some ignorant fundamentalist Fox News worshiper. I'm going to say it again for you. Your individual views do not matter in this discussion. They don't. What does matter is why you have those views and why you proclaim them to be the only correct views. You need to affirm why that is. You need to provide something, anything, that has a rational or measurable basis if you at all want to be taken seriously, or have anything to do with objectivity.

Republicans aren's stupid people. This article is stupid though.

[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694467]but isn't one of the whole points of assuming a political position is that you think the alternative is... ignorant?[/QUOTE] No. It means that you believe your views would provide a more desirable outcome. Just because you don't support their goals or disagree with their method does not mean you assume that they are ignorant or even wrong.

[QUOTE=danielplazzy;35694467]but isn't one of the whole points of assuming a political position is that you think the alternative is... ignorant?[/QUOTE] it's constructed to be, so we have a nice us vs them attitude and never actually produce progress.