StG-44 Turned in to LA gun buyback program for a $200 gift card - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Juniez;43454200]probably because nobody's going to buy a work of art at a garage sale ...then burn it[/QUOTE] Actually that's a poor comparison because many works of art are one of a kind. Even if one particular gun is destroyed, there's still plenty of them out there. It's certainly not something to get upset over.

[QUOTE=Falubii;43454224]Actually that's a poor comparison because many works of art are one of a kind. Even if one particular gun is destroyed, there's still plenty of them out there. It's certainly not something to get upset over.[/QUOTE] there are most certainly not plenty of ww2 stg-44s out there

[QUOTE=Falubii;43454224]Actually that's a poor comparison because many works of art are one of a kind. Even if one particular gun is destroyed, there's still plenty of them out there. It's certainly not something to get upset over.[/QUOTE] I'm assuming that when you say "plenty" you mean "more than one".

[QUOTE=Juniez;43454232]there are most certainly not plenty of ww2 stg-44s out there[/QUOTE] Plenty is pretty subjective. [editline]7th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Raidyr;43454248]I'm assuming that when you say "plenty" you mean "more than one".[/QUOTE] I mean there's enough that you could go out buy one if you have the cash and care enough to.

[QUOTE=Falubii;43454252]Plenty is pretty subjective.[/QUOTE] well the majority of the world believes that there are not plenty of stg-44s out there- because otherwise they wouldn't cost $40,000 [QUOTE=Falubii;43454252] I mean there's enough that you could go out buy one if you have the cash and care enough to.[/QUOTE] ....you can buy pretty much anything if you have the cash and care enough to

So why do they have to smelt the guns? Is that StG-44 going to become sentient and kill the president?

[QUOTE=Juniez;43454352]well the majority of the world believes that there are not plenty of stg-44s out there- because otherwise they wouldn't cost $40,000 ....you can buy pretty much anything if you have the cash and care enough to[/QUOTE] Fair enough. I do think it's stupid to smelt something that could bring in 30 grand, but I also don't think gun collectors should see it as a huge loss. It probably would have never seen the outside world anyway if it weren't for the buy back program.

I can imagine the music playing as [I]They[/I] destroyed that gun... Actually I can hear it now... [video=youtube;hIjvyDrOOiQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIjvyDrOOiQ&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhIjvyDrOOiQ[/video]

[QUOTE=Falubii;43454224]Actually that's a poor comparison because many works of art are one of a kind. Even if one particular gun is destroyed, there's still plenty of them out there. It's certainly not something to get upset over.[/QUOTE] It's also a poor comparison because, as he said, it's unlikely that someone who buys art at a garage sale is going to destroy it. The person who bought the art lucked out in those cases, and nothing was wrecked, whereas here the person who turned in the gun is out a potential $30,000 and the gun is going to be destroyed.

Seriously, all they would have had to do was ask me and I'd pay them a hell of a lot more than 200 fucking dollars for that thing. Cash, too, not some paper bag full of gift cards like a crack addict. This is one of the major reasons why "gun buyback" is a term that actually makes me angry deep inside.

When they do these buybacks, we should get a bunch of people to go to army surplus stores and buy spent rocket tubes and give them up for gift cards, then sell the gift cards. [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1235700[/url] It can work guys.

I think a gun group in Illinois did that, they turned in a bunch of rusty old useless guns to get Visa giftcards they used to finance a youth shooting night at their club.

[QUOTE=booster;43454547]So why do they have to smelt the guns? Is that StG-44 going to become sentient and kill the president?[/QUOTE] Scrapping. The county melts down the guns to sell them to corporations as cheap-o scrap metals. The wood rifles and grips get turned into wood-chips, tooth-picks, and other small wooden goods. Metals are mostly used for cans, paper clips, staples, etc.

[QUOTE=Falubii;43454181]You're almost making it sound like the purpose of fighting in WWII was collecting guns. I'm sure that someone's great-granddad isn't mega pissed off in his grave. I swear I don't see facepunch getting so sentimental when an expensive work of art is sold at a garage sale.[/QUOTE] The StG-44 is widely considered to be the world's first true assault rifle design - that's pretty damn significant in historical terms. It's a revolutionary design, much like Hugo Borchardt / Georg Luger's toggle lock designs and John Browning's 1911 were revolutionary for handguns. It's an important piece, any way you look at it. Seeing it turned in for a gift card is saddening, to say the least.

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;43456786]I think a gun group in Illinois did that, they turned in a bunch of rusty old useless guns to get Visa giftcards they used to finance a youth shooting night at their club.[/QUOTE] Why do they want to shoot the youth? :(

[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;43456467]When they do these buybacks, we should get a bunch of people to go to army surplus stores and buy spent rocket tubes and give them up for gift cards, then sell the gift cards. [URL]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1235700[/URL] It can work guys.[/QUOTE] Perhaps it 'worked' because that was a 9mm training launcher, a functional firearm.

[QUOTE=Falubii;43457287]Why do they want to shoot the youth? :([/QUOTE] A shooting competition for youths, silly.

I always wonder about gun buybacks because I was under the impression that they're no questions asked, they just take the gun and hand you a gift card or cash. If that's the case, what would stop someone from stealing a rifle like this from a collector and turning it in? Especially considering the difficulty of trying to sell a stolen rifle that's as rare and conspicuous as this on the open market.

Meanwhile in France all we get are hundreds of used and unused mortar shells and bombs from WW2 waiting to blow up in buried bunkers. Like seriously when they were building the new hospital a few years back one of the workers jackhammered the ground and started beating on a buried active WW2 bomb, took him a minute to realize what he was trying to dig. And a few days ago some random dude found a buried bunker filled with hundreds of shells, some of them still active and packing a total of like 4kg of active explosives.

[QUOTE=Falubii;43454252] I mean there's enough that you could go out buy one if you have the cash and care enough to.[/QUOTE] You can't just walk into a gunstore anywhere in America and pull one of these off the shelf. They're insanely rare. The only place you're gonna find them is at auctions, and they're going to cost you a lot more than what you would normally pay if you buy them at auction. The only other place is an extremely occasional online ad. Even if you're a trillionare, that doesn't mean you can easily acquire one of these.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43458141]You can't just walk into a gunstore anywhere in America and pull one of these off the shelf. They're insanely rare. The only place you're gonna find them is at auctions, and they're going to cost you a lot more than what you would normally pay if you buy them at auction. The only other place is an extremely occasional online ad. Even if you're a trillionare, that doesn't mean you can easily acquire one of these.[/QUOTE] Since it's full-auto you're going to have to go through a Class III dealer, who has a StG-44 that was registered before 1986. Fill out the tax stamp and send it to the ATF for approval, wait ~9 months. After a year and thousands of dollars you should have your rifle.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;43453489]the worst kind of thinking. wooden huts for homeless people are more "useful" than the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constitution]220 year old USS Constitution[/url]. should we break her up and build wooden huts for homeless people out of her timbers?[/QUOTE] [b][u][i]YES. Absolutely[/i][/u][/b]

stg44 is the sexiest weapon of all time.

[QUOTE=Sungrazer;43473685][b][u][i]YES. Absolutely[/i][/u][/b][/QUOTE] It is the oldest commissioned naval ship in the world. You would basically be destroying arguably the most historically significant "vehicle" on the planet.

What was that person thinking. There are places that sell the StG 44 for $6000!

Damn shame about the gun. With that said, in states that allow private sales without background checks, just show up to the buyback and offer more for the gun then they are offering. Not much the cops can do about it, as long as you can legally own a gun. Happened in Seattle last year, buyback pretty much turned into a gun show.

[QUOTE=Pilot1215;43480073]Damn shame about the gun. With that said, in states that allow private sales without background checks, just show up to the buyback and offer more for the gun then they are offering. Not much the cops can do about it, as long as you can legally own a gun. Happened in Seattle last year, buyback pretty much turned into a gun show.[/QUOTE] For this one since it's auto, they would have had to go through all the registration process at an NFA-approved dealer to transfer it, meaning they would have needed a background check for this one. Also, I think Cali may be a background check for all sales state, given its laws I'd actually be surprised if it wasn't. [editline]9th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=CommanderPT;43477353]What was that person thinking. There are places that sell the StG 44 for $6000![/QUOTE] If you can find a full-auto StG44 in the US for $6000, fucking buy it, you'd be able to sell it literally the next day for $30,000.

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;43476950]It is the [b]oldest commissioned naval ship[/b] in the world. You would basically be destroying arguably the most historically significant "vehicle" on the planet.[/QUOTE] Actually, that's HMS Victory, which is aptly named for this. Getting back on topic though, I suppose some people just don't see historical value.

[QUOTE=Useful Dave;43481740]Actually, that's HMS Victory, which is aptly named for this. Getting back on topic though, I suppose some people just don't see historical value.[/QUOTE] My mistake, Constitution is the oldest afloat. Victory doesn't sail anymore, Constitution still sails.

[QUOTE=Tengil;43475177]stg44 is the sexiest weapon of all time.[/QUOTE] I think this is the real reason everyone here is so upset