Republican Rep. warns of Obama impeachment if GOP forces debt default - Polidicks

Alright, show of hands here: Rate Agree if you believe the Democrats are at fault. Rate Disagree if you believe the Republicans are at fault. Rate Tool if you believe both are at fault. Pertaining to these debt ceiling negotiations [B]only.[/B]

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31359162]Alright, show of hands here: Rate Agree if you believe the Democrats are at fault. Rate Disagree if you believe the Republicans are at fault. Rate Tool if you believe both are at fault. Pertaining to these debt ceiling negotiations [B]only.[/B][/QUOTE] I think we can firmly put the Republicans in the wrong here.

[QUOTE=Jetpack Bear;31356216]I blame the Republicans for call of duty[/QUOTE] if abortion wasn't outlawed your mother would have never birthed you

[QUOTE=Fort83;31359227]I would like to ask, if/when the default happens, what kind of consequences/repercussions can we expect to see in the United states? Like what specific would happen to everything?[/QUOTE] Interest rates go through the roof, Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid/Welfare/Unemployment checks don't go out, the overall state of our economy crashes, and without much of an industrial sector to speak of, jobs will be even harder to come by.

[QUOTE=kaine123;31357986]No, WTF Republicans? Republicans are not the majority. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/U.S._party_affiliation.svg[/img] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S._party_affiliation.svg]Source.[/url][/QUOTE] Must be harder to get democrats fired up about elections.

The GOP is anti-American and anti-democracy

[QUOTE=kaine123;31357986]No, WTF Republicans? Republicans are not the majority. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/U.S._party_affiliation.svg[/img] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S._party_affiliation.svg]Source.[/url][/QUOTE] That pic's 3 and a half years old. Note how close the two parties were in 2010. It doesn't matter where we are now, unfortunately, but rather where we were come election day. [img]http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/jytdmuo8zeu3kyuvxzq6ig.gif[/img] [img]http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/n9b1bfv3geii-iwcgqh2sq.gif[/img] [URL]http://www.gallup.com/poll/145463/Democratic-Party-Drops-2010-Tying-Year-Low.aspx[/URL] [URL]http://www.gallup.com/poll/147971/Democratic-Party-Affiliation-Advantage-Increases-May.aspx[/URL]

If we default on our debt, I am going to buy a plane ticket out to DC and protest the shit out of it.

[quote= US Constitution]Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History ... 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void. 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.[/quote] How does this allow the president to just raise the debt ceiling? all part 4 is saying is that you can't question the validity of the debt, not how to go about paying it. It also says in part 5 that congress has the power to enforce amendment 14, not the President. Full amendment can be found here: [url]http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am14[/url]

[QUOTE=Glaber;31360961]How does this allow the president to just raise the debt ceiling? all part 4 is saying is that you can't question the validity of the debt, not how to go about paying it. It also says in part 5 that congress has the power to enforce amendment 14, not the President. Full amendment can be found here: [url]http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am14[/url][/QUOTE] I was rather confused on that point as well, do you guys think you could help out?

[QUOTE=Glaber;31360961]How does this allow the president to just raise the debt ceiling? all part 4 is saying is that you can't question the validity of the debt, not how to go about paying it. It also says in part 5 that congress has the power to enforce amendment 14, not the President. Full amendment can be found here: [url]http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am14[/url][/QUOTE] No one ever said Obama could raise the debt ceiling. I think you misread the article.

[QUOTE=Glaber;31360961]How does this allow the president to just raise the debt ceiling? all part 4 is saying is that you can't question the validity of the debt, not how to go about paying it. It also says in part 5 that congress has the power to enforce amendment 14, not the President. Full amendment can be found here: [url]http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am14[/url][/QUOTE] um just because it says congress CAN enforce it with legislation doesn't mean the president CAN'T you claim to be like 21 but clearly don't understand how english works

[QUOTE=Glaber;31360961]How does this allow the president to just raise the debt ceiling? all part 4 is saying is that you can't question the validity of the debt, not how to go about paying it. It also says in part 5 that congress has the power to enforce amendment 14, not the President. Full amendment can be found here: [url]http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am14[/url][/QUOTE] To put it simply, Obama could theoretically place an executive order to raise the debt ceiling, and if this comes into question, the Supreme Court would declare Congress' actions (in not raising the debt ceiling) as unconstitutional. The result is that the debt ceiling would probably be ruled as unconstitutional as well as it is a congressional device that can be used to deny payment to current debts. The Obama Administration has already categorically denied that they will even consider this as an option, however.

[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;31354563]The entire Republican party needs to fucking die. They are a waste of resources, time, and oxygen.[/QUOTE]Also a waste of skin and organs. Send their shit to people on the waiting list. At least they'd make tons better use of it than the Republicans ever will.