Suspect killed at Calif. Carl's Jr. - Polidicks

the fucker attacked the carl's jrs windows...I watched the whole thing in person.... :(

What the fuck was that guy on? Also, wouldn't shooting him in the legs until he fell work?

[QUOTE=ThePutty;34384588]what's worse is the assholes filming this laughing their asses off at somebody being fucking killed in front of them[/QUOTE] It's shock, most likely. They get a lot more anxious as the video goes on.

[QUOTE=Zacca;34384852]What the fuck was that guy on? Also, wouldn't shooting him in the legs until he fell work?[/QUOTE] No, always aim for the torso.

[QUOTE=ThePutty;34384588]what's worse is the assholes filming this laughing their asses off at somebody being fucking killed in front of them[/QUOTE] Don't say you've never laughed at something completely inappropriate because of nerves. [QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;34384784]Police are trained to shoot once in the chest to stop, if that doesn't work, fire again, and if that doesn't work, shoot their head Why did he feel the need to shoot him in the chest 6-7 times?[/QUOTE] Do you have any idea how relatively small a head is? You're more likely to hit something else.

Gotta give that guy credit, he took that taze like a boss.

A few of them seem distraught near the end, too. It takes some time for the impact to register sometimes.

[QUOTE=Zacca;34384852]What the fuck was that guy on? Also, wouldn't shooting him in the legs until he fell work?[/QUOTE] He was killed out of panic, I doubt the cop was aiming at anything specific.

[QUOTE=Zacca;34384852]What the fuck was that guy on? Also, wouldn't shooting him in the legs until he fell work?[/QUOTE] it's kind of hard to strategically cripple someone with your pistol before he can finish swinging a huge pipe at your partner's head he really only engaged him because he was mid-swing with a pipe coming at his partner's head. if he hadn't put him down his partner would have been cracked in the head with a pipe.

[QUOTE=DeandreT;34384891]He was killed out of panic, I doubt the cop was aiming at anything specific.[/QUOTE] Cops shoot to kill. They don't aim for limbs because for one they are a much smaller target and secondly if they miss that smaller target the bullet has a chance to ricochet and hit innocent bystanders.

[QUOTE=Retardation;34385038]Uh, he had an attack dog at hand and the suspect had no firearms. Why the fuck did he shoot him instead of just releasing the dog, let alone shoot him like 6 times? how was this justified are you guys nuts[/QUOTE] Getting tazed in the face barely phased him, he probably would've killed the dog too. Then they would've gunned him down while he was doing so.

[QUOTE=Retardation;34385038]Uh, he had an attack dog at hand and the suspect had no firearms. Why the fuck did he shoot him instead of just releasing the dog, let alone shoot him like 6 times? how was this justified are you guys nuts[/QUOTE] [quote] When a man leaves the restaurant, he walks toward police and raises a metal bar police say was three feet long.[/quote] You wanna take the gamble, be my guest.

[QUOTE=Retardation;34385038]Uh, he had an attack dog at hand and the suspect had no firearms. Why the fuck did he shoot him instead of just releasing the dog, let alone shoot him like 6 times? how was this justified are you guys nuts[/QUOTE] it might have had something to do with the fact that his partner was about to be bludgeoned by a large metal pipe

I think this is fair Come at a police officer with what appears to be a sharp weapon I would have shot him, although I think a tazer would have been more appropriate I would have done the same thing rather you than me buddy

[QUOTE=Retardation;34385038]Uh, he had an attack dog at hand and the suspect had no firearms. Why the fuck did he shoot him instead of just releasing the dog, let alone shoot him like 6 times? how was this justified are you guys nuts[/QUOTE] The officer was in IMMEDIATE danger, he was seconds away from getting smashed. Could have even died from it. They had no choice, the dog wouldn't be fast enough. As mentioned in this topic, officers are trained to keep shooting until the target is on the ground because one or two bullets to the chest won't actually stop someone who is full of adrenaline.

[QUOTE=Retardation;34385038]Uh, he had an attack dog at hand and the suspect had no firearms. Why the fuck did he shoot him instead of just releasing the dog, let alone shoot him like 6 times? how was this justified are you guys nuts[/QUOTE] That pipe bender he had would have killed/injured the dog if he got a good swing at it. The guy was numbed by something because he shrugged off a taser. Would have just been a waste of time and a police dog. If you have ever handled one of those pipe benders in real life, they have some mass to them. Whoever was getting hit with that would have been killed or suffered some fractured limbs in one blow.

[QUOTE=Retardation;34385076]Those kind of dogs are specifically trained to pounce suspects and knock them down on their asses.[/QUOTE] Yes, and it would've gone to town on his arm or face, but if a nice dose of electricity to the face wouldn't stop him, what makes you think he wouldn't (or couldn't) have shoved the dog away? With a nice swing or two, he could've crippled or even killed the dog, and then gone after the officer while he bled out. The situation would/could have gone much worse than that.

[QUOTE=Retardation;34385076]Those kind of dogs are specifically trained to pounce suspects and knock them down on their asses.[/QUOTE] I've seen demonstrations, but this guy shrugged off a taser. Not to mention the dog weighs less than a human being, so it's not like the dog can really tackle him.

A guy 3 meters from both cops has a big unbalanced pipe, tries to swing it but cops just had to shoot 3+ bullets to kill him to death. First 1-2 shots are justified, the rest shows how unprofessional policeman is.

[QUOTE=Retardation;34385157]Because the sheer force of the dog's pounce would suffice to knock him to the ground, no matter how resilient he was to getting hit to the face with a taser. The whole situation was handled unprofessionally really. Officers are suppose to be able to act rationally under pressure, not unload bullets into a suspect just because they're a bit shocked. [b]And I seriously doubt that a bullet to the chest would not stop him dead in his tracks no matter how much 'adrenaline' was pumping through him.[/b][/QUOTE]Username fits, you just contradicted yourself. If a single bullet isn't going to stop him, nor a taser, a dog certainly isn't going to do anything. Besides, by the time the dog would have arrived, the suspect would have landed the blow.

Stuff like this really baffles me because I'm a Norwegian, our police aren't even armed. It seems to foreign and different.

yeah the second cop starting to fire is completely justified. you're right fp. kill all crooks. loving the dog not even being released. yes, this is how police should operate. good takedown.

[QUOTE=Soda;34385187]yeah the second cop starting to fire is completely justified. you're right fp. kill all crooks.[/QUOTE] Well the criminal started to swing his weapon at the cop...

[QUOTE=areolop;34383677] Justified Shooting btw.[/QUOTE] one shot would be justified, 10 is not.

[QUOTE=Akuma_lektro;34385259]one shot would be justified, 10 is not.[/QUOTE] They shoot until he's down so he doesn't have a chance at hurting them. And as many people have stated, he barely flinched when he was tazed, so they were taking no chances. Rather one bullet too much than one bullet too less.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;34384784]Police are trained to shoot once in the chest to stop, if that doesn't work, fire again, and if that doesn't work, shoot their head Why did he feel the need to shoot him in the chest 6-7 times?[/QUOTE] Police are trained to shoot at centre of mass and repeat as necessary until the threat is stopped. In fact they never deliberately aim for the head because it's too easy to miss, and bullets don't just stop because they failed hit their target... The second officer shooting another 5 times after he fell did seem excessive. It's hard to tell what's going on in the video though, maybe the guy was trying to get back up or...take a swing at the officer's knees or some shit. Considering he pulled a damn taser out of his face and tried to charge at 2 armed officers, I don't think he was about to give up on his own.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;34384784]Police are trained to shoot once in the chest to stop, if that doesn't work, fire again, and if that doesn't work, shoot their head Why did he feel the need to shoot him in the chest 6-7 times?[/QUOTE] hey guys look at me I have no idea what i'm talking about LOL Seriously no military or police force in the world is trained to shoot for the head.

For everyone wondering why the cops shot the suspect where they did it's because center mass is easiest to hit and they're trained to shoot there for that reason. The reason he shot so low was because there were cops on the other side of the suspect and I'm assuming he didn't want to hit his buddies. As for people suggesting other "more logical" actions (namely retardation whom I suspect is trolling) it's quite easy to look at a situation from the outside while in a calm environment and pass judgment but you don't know everything that was going on and in the same panicked situation I'm betting a lot of you would have done the same thing and shot the guy. I will admit the second cop shooting an additional five rounds into him did seem unnecessary but you really can't see what's going on after the first cop shoots him. This guy was clearly on something to shrug off a taser to the face like that. I would guess PCP but I really don't know a lot about drugs so it could very well be something else but I've heard plenty of stories about guys who take these drugs and just keep coming even after you've shot them several times.

I love reading idiot comments about it not being justified, lets put you in that position as a policeman and a guy is about to swing a heavy pipe at you possibly injuring you badly, what do you do? You have a gun, a tazer that barely did anything on the suspect and possibly a baton. What would you do? You'd shoot the guy, trust me.

[QUOTE=Starship;34385803]I love reading idiot comments about it not being justified, lets put you in that position as a policeman and a guy is about to swing a heavy pipe at you possibly injuring you badly, what do you do? You have a gun, a tazer that barely did anything on the suspect and possibly a baton. What would you do? You'd shoot the guy, trust me.[/QUOTE] If you get scared shitless from a big clumsy pipe so you would take a machine gun and blow the fucker out, I think police job won't suit you.