Microsoft offering Windows 8 upgrade for $40 to everyone with XP and later - Polidicks

Iunno, that's a good deal, but I'm not sure about W8. I really hate some of the changes they made. Like, this: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RASwN.png[/IMG] is really a dealbreaker for me. I'm still using Office 2003 because I refuse to use that retarded fucking ribbon layout. If there's an option to use the normal Windows convention then that would go a long way for me, because just that sort of thing- changing ingrained items- is really what's keeping me against Win8.

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36597167']Iunno, that's a good deal, but I'm not sure about W8. I really hate some of the changes they made. Like, this: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RASwN.png[/IMG] is really a dealbreaker for me. I'm still using Office 2003 because I refuse to use that retarded fucking ribbon layout. If there's an option to use the normal Windows convention then that would go a long way for me, because just that sort of thing- changing ingrained items- is really what's keeping me against Win8.[/QUOTE] Dude, that screenshot is from, like, February 2011 or something - you can collapse the ribbon. Anyhow, I find it fairly useful.

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36597167']Iunno, that's a good deal, but I'm not sure about W8. I really hate some of the changes they made. Like, this: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RASwN.png[/IMG] is really a dealbreaker for me. I'm still using Office 2003 because I refuse to use that retarded fucking ribbon layout. If there's an option to use the normal Windows convention then that would go a long way for me, because just that sort of thing- changing ingrained items- is really what's keeping me against Win8.[/QUOTE] Implying you can't customize and modify the UI's to how you want them? Not to mention the screenshot you are showing us is rather dated, and you can collapse the "retarded fucking ribbon layout".

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36597167']Iunno, that's a good deal, but I'm not sure about W8. I really hate some of the changes they made. Like, this: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RASwN.png[/IMG] is really a dealbreaker for me. I'm still using Office 2003 because I refuse to use that retarded fucking ribbon layout. If there's an option to use the normal Windows convention then that would go a long way for me, because just that sort of thing- changing ingrained items- is really what's keeping me against Win8.[/QUOTE] It's minimized by default, and you don't really have to use it. Not to mention with the QAT you could pin Open CMD Prompt to it, and hit Alt+1 (or whatever location it's at) and just open it there. So it's actually useful.

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36597167']Iunno, that's a good deal, but I'm not sure about W8. I really hate some of the changes they made. Like, this: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RASwN.png[/IMG] is really a dealbreaker for me. I'm still using Office 2003 because I refuse to use that retarded fucking ribbon layout. If there's an option to use the normal Windows convention then that would go a long way for me, because just that sort of thing- changing ingrained items- is really what's keeping me against Win8.[/QUOTE] The ribbon is actually quite sensible if you actually bothered to take some time to use it for a normal usage period. I was a bit sceptical of it at first, but after a few hours of use the ribbon kinda stuck with me and yeah, I can see what MS were trying with it, and it works if implemented right. We still have our keyboard shortcuts, but now the menu items aren't a list of bollocks, important items are easily visible and take no time to find.

My point is that I don't want a customizable ribbon, or one that collapses/minimizes. It's nonsensical to take a perfectly reasonable method that's been in place for years and just throw it out in favor of super-simplicity for the super-simple. I've been made to use the Office 07 and 2010 ribbon enough in school, on friends' computers, and at work, and I still find it to be totally unusable at the worst of times and annoying at the best. Besides being crazily nonsensical it's also an eyesore that takes up far more space with far less functionality and with far less ease to use. And it's that sort of thing that bugs me. The start menu is another thing with that, though I'm not so opposed to that because it still offers most of the same ease of use, although seemingly also taking up more space than necessary and over-simplifying it. I don't understand why moderately easy to use methods need to be chopped down to the bare minimum to the point where it's not easily usable for anyone but people who only use 10 commands, yet take up more space than ever with gaudy windows and themes and whatever. That's my issue. It's at the point where OS is more damned Windows-oriented than Windows itself in its UI. And that's what bugs me. Alot. I don't like changes in my UI, and when there must be changes I don't like them so sudden and violent.

[QUOTE=Sourcegamer8;36595671]You can judge it when it releases. But really, $40/£20 etc is really nothing for a pro version of Windows[/QUOTE] even better since Pro this time around is the same as having Ultimate.. there is no Windows 8 Ultimate

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36597342']My point is that I don't want a customizable ribbon, or one that collapses/minimizes. It's nonsensical to take a perfectly reasonable method that's been in place for years and just throw it out in favor of super-simplicity for the super-simple. I've been made to use the Office 07 and 2010 ribbon enough in school, on friends' computers, and at work, and I still find it to be totally unusable at the worst of times and annoying at the best. Besides being crazily nonsensical it's also an eyesore that takes up far more space with far less functionality and with far less ease to use. And it's that sort of thing that bugs me. The start menu is another thing with that, though I'm not so opposed to that because it still offers most of the same ease of use, although seemingly also taking up more space than necessary and over-simplifying it. I don't understand why moderately easy to use methods need to be chopped down to the bare minimum to the point where it's not easily usable for anyone but people who only use 10 commands, yet take up more space than ever with gaudy windows and themes and whatever. That's my issue. It's at the point where OS is more damned Windows-oriented than Windows itself in its UI. And that's what bugs me. Alot. I don't like changes in my UI, and when there must be changes I don't like them so sudden and violent.[/QUOTE] They did the same in Vista/7 by replacing and removing a lot of the functionality from toolbars and just replaced it with a simple command bar. So I assume you'd like to go back to XP?

Doesn't change the fact that it's shit.

[QUOTE=SCopE5000;36597053]Hate how it says 'You may need an app to play movies'.. Seems like they're just trying to be cool by using words like 'app' and shit that really don't suit Microsoft's corporate appeal.[/QUOTE] Applications is what programs are except an application is more for simple users and programs for advanced users.

[QUOTE=cccritical;36595975]Am I going to have to replace system files to get it like I want it or is there a handy little checkbox in the W8 control panel to do that?[/QUOTE] I can't help but feel like it's not worth the effort to bring the Start menu back. Like all these Start8 attempts and shit are just people rebelling against Microsoft.

It's nice of them to do this. I'm amazed actually. But I still don't care that much about an OS for me to upgrade/downgrade. I use Windows Vista, it's shit but it doesn't bother me.

[QUOTE=Hullu V3;36597415]Doesn't change the fact that it's shit.[/QUOTE] Kinda does since it's been proven that not only has shit like this happened before and it was fine, but something as small as this gets criticized because it isn't what people are used to.

[code]Your windows XP has been detected to be of a volume license and therefore is excluded from this offer.[/code]

[QUOTE=MIPS;36597493][code]Your windows XP has been detected to be of a volume license and therefore is excluded from this offer.[/code][/QUOTE] don't worry, you won't be missing out on much

From what I hear it isn't worth the 40$ or getting rid of 7. Tough 40$ is cheap as hell for a new OS.

[QUOTE=Panda X;36597412]They did the same in Vista/7 by replacing and removing a lot of the functionality from toolbars and just replaced it with a simple command bar. So I assume you'd like to go back to XP?[/QUOTE] I didn't much like that either, I would indeed prefer the XP method, but the Vista/7 style -was not Gaudy -was not completely oversimplified -did not remove significant functionality so it's at least usable and acceptable. Again, I don't mind changes, but they need to ease into them and not just go "hey guize we've had this our entire existence. FUCK IT. you get to use this completely different thing that's impossible to find anything in because we only make the 10 most common functions easy to find in an appropriate place, since we're appealing tot he lowest common denominator now."

[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;36597645] I love how Delta spams boxes everywhere as soon as someone disagrees with him :v: EVEN when they have a valid point.[/QUOTE] Yes, because calling Windows 8 a downgrade, or not wanting to buy an OS because of an optional ribbon layout in windows explorer is totally a valid point. Do everyone an favor and stop criticizing something that has nothing to do with the topic of the thread. If someone's opinion differs from mine, but provides logic on why, fine, who am I to judge. If the stupid, i'll rate it dumb.

[QUOTE=cccritical;36595873]I'd buy it in a heartbeat if I could keep the GUI the same as W7. Still undecided though. Too much change for me.[/QUOTE] you can go back to Windows 2000 GUI in W7, of course you can change the GUI

Do you HAVE to use Metro in Windows 8, or can I use Aero? I personally really hate Metro. To be honest I hate the direction Microsoft is taking Windows in. I'd like to have a nicer faster OS and for $40 it's a fucking steal. But I really love Aero and a lot of the features of Windows 7.

[QUOTE=Yersinia;36597916]Do you HAVE to use Metro in Windows 8, or can I use Aero? I personally really hate Metro. To be honest I hate the direction Microsoft is taking Windows in. I'd like to have a nicer faster OS and for $40 it's a fucking steal. But I really love Aero and a lot of the features of Windows 7.[/QUOTE] Default, you are forced to use Metro, luckily there are programs that re-implement the original Start Menu, like [url]http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/[/url] for example.

no excuses now i guess i should upgrade

hmm, my Uni sells full windows 7 keys for $29.99, i wonder how win8 pricing will be

[QUOTE=Delta616;36597944]Default, you are forced to use Metro, luckily there are programs that re-implement the original Start Menu, like [url]http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/[/url] for example.[/QUOTE] Oh fuck that. I'm not paying $40 so I can install 3rd party programs to use what should already be in the operating system. I hope Microsoft realizes people like options when it comes to Win9

I use XP for the compatibility it has with older games. If I upgrade to Win 8 will I lose it?

[QUOTE=Ereunity;36598057]I use XP for the compatibility it has with older games. If I upgrade to Win 8 will I lose it?[/QUOTE] You realize you can run programs in compatibility mode right

[QUOTE=Yersinia;36597999]Oh fuck that. I'm not paying $40 so I can install 3rd party programs to use what should already be in the operating system. I hope Microsoft realizes people like options when it comes to Win9[/QUOTE] I feel ya dude.

I'm hoping it goes up on my MSDN Academic Alliance thing I got through College before they close my account, I want to try the full version of Windows 8 but I don't want to pay for it if it's as bad as it was in the Consumer Preview. I know some people liked it but I feel like they've removed a lot of the desktop functionality in favor of a moral tablet style UI, I can't stand Metro.

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36597685']I didn't much like that either, I would indeed prefer the XP method, but the Vista/7 style -was not Gaudy -was not completely oversimplified -did not remove significant functionality so it's at least usable and acceptable. Again, I don't mind changes, but they need to ease into them and not just go "hey guize we've had this our entire existence. FUCK IT. you get to use this completely different thing that's impossible to find anything in because we only make the 10 most common functions easy to find in an appropriate place, since we're appealing tot he lowest common denominator now."[/QUOTE] The file explorer is not changed at all in it's fuctionality - the ribbon menu has made the functionality more accessible for people who don't really know the key commands or generally do not like to use context menus. It can be [I]completely[/I] collapsed - as in, you see a ~10x10px arrow icon [I]and not any fucking more.[/I] Besides, it's easier for people with touch devices. If you want to know more about the improvements in File Explorer, take a look at this article: [url]http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/08/29/improvements-in-windows-explorer.aspx[/url] They made it easier for the largest share of people, if you look at the data, and no harder for the rest. And if you actually like Windows XP's Explorer more, you're really the minority. Search was painful in XP, and the introduction of libraries was a god send. And it really seems like you do mind changes, because the new Explorer doesn't change anything substantially, if you don't want it to. Talk about how you dislike big changes like the new start menu (that can be reverted by third party programs) and I'll argue with you, but having a problem with the new Explorer (especially since you don't seem to have tried it) is just ridiculous.

[QUOTE=fredstin22;36598215]This nearly makes up for the removal of the start button[/QUOTE] The "button" is still there, it's just hidden now and is a contextual thing (Along with a ton of other stuff, which is one of my complaints about Windows 8) What they got rid of was the start menu. The replacement is more like a full screen app launcher with widgets built in, and the desktop runs in the background (Like 2 different virtual desktops)