[QUOTE=Sickle;34659433]No it isn't, where are you pulling this shit from?
You don't have to actively disbelieve in god, you just have to not believe in him in the first place, which is the initial outlook anyway, for everyone.[/QUOTE]
Again, that argument is only valid with someone who has never been introduced to the concept of religion.
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It takes an actual assumption and stance to not believe in god. You have to say "Well, I've looked at religion. It doesn't make sense to me so I don't believe in it."
[QUOTE=jaykray;34656335]Buddhism is actually agnostic. The Buddha didn't deny an existence of a god.[/QUOTE]
I'm no expert on Buddhism, but it was originally based on Hinduism which believed in many gods.
The point of Buddhism was to break the cycle of reincarnation, and reach a state of nirvana (nonexistance).
But I can see why it's atheistic in that the Hindu gods control reincarnation and Buddhists probably aren't fans of Vishna and the other Hindu gods.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;34655294]That is a religious belief in itself. You have to actively make the assumption there is no god in order to be atheist. It's a philosophy regarding the divine and supernatural. If you don't believe in god, that is an important part of your outlook on the divine and supernatural.[/QUOTE]
I want to flame you so bad.
Atheism is the [B]lack of a belief in God[/B]
It does not make any assumptions about the existence of God.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;34661393]I want to flame you so bad.[/quote]
Says a lot about your maturity and intellect.
[quote]Atheism is the [B]lack of a belief in God[/B]
It does not make any assumptions about the existence of God.[/QUOTE]
Only if you have never been exposed to a concept of a god would atheism be devoid of any assumptions.
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Only if you have never been exposed to a concept of a god would atheism be devoid of any assumptions.[/QUOTE]
I guess you could call it an assumption, but it's the same as assuming there isn't an invisible teapot orbiting the sun.
It's nowhere near a blind assumption like theists make. There is actually a lot of evidence behind the assumption that god doesn't exist.
A religious belief is not the same as a belief about religion. A religious belief is a belief that has the property of being religious, while a belief about religion is a stance on the matter of religion.
Just as an excellent presentation is not the same as a presentation about excellency. Same for a homosexual statement not being the same as a statement about homosexuality.
[Quote=Wikipedia]Religious belief is a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny.[1] Such a state may relate to the existence, characteristics and worship of a deity or deities, divine intervention in the universe and human life, or values and practices centered on the teachings of a spiritual leader. In contrast to other belief systems, religious beliefs are usually codified.[/quote]
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;34664642]I guess you could call it an assumption, but it's the same as assuming there isn't an invisible teapot orbiting the sun.
It's nowhere near a blind assumption like theists make. [/quote]
I never said it was a blind assumption. It is an assumption, and it is a stance. Your assumption that there isn't an invisible teapot orbiting the sun is not analogous to belief in god because it is not a religious belief.
Once you say "I don't believe there is an invisible teapot orbiting the sun, that created the solar system and universe", that turns into a belief regarding religion.
[quote]There is actually a lot of evidence behind the assumption that god doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]
There is actually no evidence that a god doesn't exist because god can't be disproven.
[QUOTE=Matte;34664731]A religious belief is not the same as a belief about religion. A religious belief is a belief that has the property of being religious, while a belief about religion is a stance on the matter of religion.
Just as an excellent presentation is not the same as a presentation about excellency. Same for a homosexual statement not being the same as a statement about homosexuality.[/QUOTE]
"Such a state may relate to the existence, characteristics and worship of a deity or deities, divine intervention in the universe and human life, or values and practices centered on the teachings of a spiritual leader."
That is atheism. It's a state that relates to the existence of a deity, and divine intervention.
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"Just as an excellent presentation is not the same as a presentation about excellency. Same for a homosexual statement not being the same as a statement about homosexuality."
Those are not analogous. It would be analogous to say "A statement regarding the excellence of a presentation versus a statement regarding the lack of excellence in that presentation" Both are opinions about the excellence of the presentation.
Atheism would be saying the presentation isn't excellent, while the christian might say the presentation was excellent.
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