Final piece lifted to the Freedom Tower, giving it the height of the ultra-Murican patriotic 1,776 f

[Mr. Scorpio]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;40513239]That's exactly why it's important. This isn't just a testament to American resilience, it's the closing of a dark chapter of American history. For many, this is going to represent a return to the way things were. It's not [I]just a building,[/I] nor is it just self-gratification. With this in the skyline, it'll help to quell the anger and fear that a lot of Americans still feel when they think back to 9/11.

You're right, there is still a lot of fear and anger revolving around the events of 9/11. For as long as there are people who remember it, there always will be. But this building, in all its hokey symbolism, is the physical representation that it's time to move on. That attack, and most of the rage that came with it, will finally start to become a part of history, rather than a wound we're still recovering from.[/QUOTE]

I have yet to see a single example of a building, no matter how symbolic, ever curing the ailed hearts of the population upon whose land it was built.

[jordguitar]

It isnt called the freedom tower anymore god damnit its just One World Trade Center

[Big Dumb Patriot]

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;40513308]I have yet to see a single example of a building, no matter how symbolic, ever curing the ailed hearts of the population upon whose land it was built.[/QUOTE]

Then you not only lack the basic capacity for human empathy, you also have zero understanding of what symbolism actually means.

[Harry3]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;40512793]Frankly, if there's any building in the United States that's earned the right to a bit of patriotic symbolism, it's this one. I know it's fun to joke about your American stereotypes, but this is a monument to one of the most horrific and shocking attacks in American history. The original World Trade Center was attacked because it, itself, was symbolic. Some would argue that it's not only fitting, but [I]necessary[/I] to make its replacement symbolic as well. For the victims, for the American people, and for those who endorsed what happened to the original, it's important to show that the nation can can come back from something like that, even bigger and better than it was before.

[editline]3rd May 2013[/editline]

Yes, what vapid, nationalistic fools we all must be to mount a flag to a building commemorating one of the darkest days in US history. Gosh, are my cheeks red on behalf of my yokel brethren.[/QUOTE]

Bet everyone held their hand to their heart and sang the national anthem as it went up while a band played below. Finished off with a USA chant.

I shed a tear

[dai]

[QUOTE=PowerBall v1;40513265]How could you let the muslims beat you, America?

[img]http://afathersapocalypsis.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/a7435f9367ca608539e9573cf4f4369f-1.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

We're gonna need a bigger flag pole

But in all seriousness a huge factor would be the available space for the building's footprint, for stability.

[Lonestriper]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;40513239]That's exactly why it's important. This isn't just a testament to American resilience, it's the closing of a dark chapter of American history. For many, this is going to represent a return to the way things were. It's not [I]just a building,[/I] nor is it just self-gratification. With this in the skyline, it'll help to quell the anger and fear that a lot of Americans still feel when they think back to 9/11.

You're right, there is still a lot of fear and anger revolving around the events of 9/11. For as long as there are people who remember it, there always will be. But this building, in all its hokey symbolism, is the physical representation that it's time to move on. That attack, and most of the rage that came with it, will finally start to become a part of history, rather than a wound we're still recovering from.[/QUOTE]

Yet I feel this chapter in US history is not over yet and won't really be for awhile, certainly while involvement in Iraq has ended and Afghanistan is dwindling the specter of the war on terrorism still exists in American society, indeed it is not a specter at all being a continuing facet of American foreign policy. I can only feel it is premature to declare it the time of healing. Perhaps I am being over-encompassing of what constitutes a 9/11 reaction to a post 9/11 reaction but its certainly too early to tell exactly if the 9/11 era has ended

[Hullu V3]

I wonder if there will one day be a spacescraper where the top floor of the building is in space and has no gravity.

[Judas]

[QUOTE=Harry3;40512595]Look at the flag on the spire....

CRINGE[/QUOTE]

is "cringe" this months "my le sides!!!!!"?

[fruxodaily]

only took them a fucking long time to do this

[Mr. Scorpio]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;40513314]Then you not only lack the basic capacity for human empathy, you also have zero understanding of what symbolism actually means.[/QUOTE]

Of what consequence is it what it means?

9/11 didn't "wound" us. It's not as if the planes were knives jammed into the gut of the US itself, with this tower being the last suture in our treatment. 9/11 dented our sense of invulnerability. It gave us a new culture to be afraid of. It changed our common perception of the world. But we've been afraid before, and we've feared and hated other cultures before.

I'm sure it means a lot to a lot of people on a sentimental level. But people will continue thinking and acting as they always do and always have, tower or no.

[zeromancer]

[QUOTE=Judas;40513399]is "cringe" this months "my le sides!!!!!"?[/QUOTE]

No?

[Mr. Scorpio]

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;40513427]only took them a fucking long time to do this[/QUOTE]

That would be because we spent half a decade trying to figure out the most patriotic and american way to stick it to the terrorists by building the most free american tower possible. A process that was handled about as incompetently and ham fistedly as humanly possible.

[fruxodaily]

yeah i know, the freedom tower is such a stupid name, it makes America look fucking retarded, the terrorist unfortunately won with this though, they knocked 2 buildings and it took them years for them to rebuild

like what penn & teller said on their video, casinos get knocked down and built back up in days, why did the towers take so long, and was this design even needed, why not the basic design, a little taller and with more safety exits and stuff

[Electrocuter]

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;40513427]only took them a fucking long time to do this[/QUOTE]

Well you don't plan one of the most important buildings in the country in a month.

[editline]3rd May 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=UnknownDude;40512506]1776 feet is 541 meters. In the year 541, USA wasn't even a country, and the most powerful superpower at the time was the Byzantine Empire, located in Europe and parts of Asia. Joke's on you, Americunts.[/QUOTE]

It'll be funnier if America ever adopts the metric system.

[Used Car Salesm]

I can't wait until the foundation settles in a few years and drops the actual height by a couple of feet.

[Jsm]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;40512793]
Yes, what vapid, nationalistic fools we all must be to mount a flag to a building commemorating one of the darkest days in US history. Gosh, are my cheeks red on behalf of my yokel brethren.[/QUOTE]

Have you considered that its this sort of overly patriotic attitude lead to the original attack? I am not saying it [B]did[/B] I am just saying its one of the possibilities I have heard of the years.

(I should say though, I do agree if you are going to build something out of respect to an attack, go be as nationalistic as you want. The building could be painted in the American flag and it still wouldn't be [I]that[/I] over the top)

[editline]3rd May 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=daijitsu;40513347]We're gonna need a bigger flag pole

But in all seriousness a huge factor would be the available space for the building's footprint, for stability.[/QUOTE]

Aren't poles and antenneas not counted anymore because America [B]ruined [/B]it for everyone else by just putting larger and larger antenneas on the empire state building?

[Pierrewithahat]

[QUOTE=Electrocuter;40513630]Well you don't plan one of the most important buildings in the country in a month.

[editline]3rd May 2013[/editline]

It'll be funnier if America ever adopts the metric system.[/QUOTE]

I dunno man, I'd probably call that a tragedy.

[Big Dumb Patriot]

[QUOTE=Jsm;40513676]Have you considered that its this sort of overly patriotic attitude lead to the original attack? I am not saying it [B]did[/B] I am just saying its one of the possibilities I have heard of the years.

(I should say though, I do agree if you are going to build something out of respect to an attack, go be as nationalistic as you want. The building could be painted in the American flag and it still wouldn't be [I]that[/I] over the top)

[editline]3rd May 2013[/editline]

Aren't poles and antenneas not counted anymore because America [B]ruined [/B]it for everyone else by just putting larger and larger antenneas on the empire state building?[/QUOTE]

How is it overly patriotic to hang a national flag at the site of a national monument?

[evilweazel]

Kind of funny how the rest of the world complains about america being too patriotic whenever we do anything remotely approving of our country, but if they do it its fine :v:

Oh well, just stuck with completely original "heheheeh 'MERICA lel xD" jokes I guess.

[NoDachi]

[QUOTE=evilweazel;40513817]Kind of funny how the rest of the world complains about america being too patriotic whenever we do anything remotely approving of our country, but if they do it its fine :v:

Oh well, just stuck with completely original "heheheeh 'MERICA lel xD" jokes I guess.[/QUOTE]

pls show me on the map where the other countries touched you

[Harry3]

[QUOTE=evilweazel;40513817]Kind of funny how the rest of the world complains about america being too patriotic whenever we do anything remotely approving of our country, but if they do it its fine :v:

Oh well, just stuck with completely original "heheheeh 'MERICA lel xD" jokes I guess.[/QUOTE]

maybe because the rest of the world isnt overly patriotic 24/7

The only other country that bangs on about how great it is is North korea.

[RainbowPillows]

Very short history and America runs the world. Of course they're going to put a flag on the fuckin' tower. More power to them. As an American, I personally can see how the patriotism can be fucking overwhelming. There's a dangerous side to patriotism, if they mounted the flag ATOP a flag like they had planned, every Texan would cum to death.

[dai]

as an american I'm usually really offput by gigantic displays of patriotic dickwaving because it feels unnecessary and carried out with blind intent, yet I think if there is one place on the planet for a US flag right now it's on top of the new WTC.

if you want to get angry about US flags at places let's start here

[t]http://www.citysignsinc.com/lightbox_images/flags/mcdonalds1.jpg[/t]

[Big Dumb Patriot]

It's like everybody is confusing Bioshock's Columbia for a documentary about the American middle class. Life sure is easier when you apply inaccurate blanket stereotypes, isn't it? That way, when our country erects a symbolic monument to a national tragedy, it's not because we're memorializing an important and difficult chapter of our history, it's because America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America

[Provost]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;40514704]It's like everybody is confusing Bioshock's Columbia for a documentary about the American middle class. Life sure is easier when you apply inaccurate blanket stereotypes, isn't it? That way, when our country erects a symbolic monument to a national tragedy, it's not because we're memorializing an important and difficult chapter of our history, it's because America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America America[/QUOTE]

America for the America god! Patriotism for the throne of Washington!

[smfE]

That american flag being rised up and the tower is called "freedom tower" just lol

[NoDachi]

[QUOTE=smfE;40514805]That american flag being rised up and the tower is called "freedom tower" just lol[/QUOTE]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds0IsJX9Ixo[/media]

[dai]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;40514704]Bioshock's Columbia[/QUOTE]

if there's anything I learned from bioshock is that we as a country are severely lacking statues of Benjamin Franklin that really highlight his mighty abs

[ma21212]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;40513239]That's exactly why it's important. This isn't just a testament to American resilience, it's the closing of a dark chapter of American history. For many, this is going to represent a return to the way things were. It's not [I]just a building,[/I] nor is it just self-gratification. With this in the skyline, it'll help to quell the anger and fear that a lot of Americans still feel when they think back to 9/11.

You're right, there is still a lot of fear and anger revolving around the events of 9/11. For as long as there are people who remember it, there always will be. But this building, in all its hokey symbolism, is the physical representation that it's time to move on. That attack, and most of the rage that came with it, will finally start to become a part of history, rather than a wound we're still recovering from.[/QUOTE]

I thought invading Iraq, Afghanistan and killing Osama healed the wounds.... Im missing something I guess.

[The Baconator]

Funny how this tower is being made in response to 9/11, yet we lost so many freedoms from laws in response to 9/11. More like the not-Freedom Tower