Judge declares living man in front of him to be legally dead - Polidicks

I remember my friend once told me a story about an employee who worked at the IRS or some governmental agency that dealt with people. They had a similar situation where somebody who was listed as "dead" walked in and wanted something. So they went to their file, clicked the drop-down menu and changed it to "Alive". But an alert message popped up: [IMG]http://u.cubeupload.com/Chinook249/ErrorMessage.png[/IMG] :v:

[QUOTE]Robin Miller says she opposed overturning the death ruling, because she would then have to pay back the federal government for the benefits she received and does not have the financial means to do so. Donald Eugene Miller reportedly owed her $26,000 in child support at the time of his “death.”[/QUOTE] What an ass. Its strange how you can be legally dead. Does it affect how the law treats you?

Does this make him a leagal Zombie?

[QUOTE=Novangel;42471859]So there'd be no legal consequence if someone murdered him infront of the court?[/QUOTE] They'd be arrested for desecrating a corpse.

[QUOTE=Novangel;42471859]So there'd be no legal consequence if someone murdered him infront of the court?[/QUOTE] [i]I'm picking up where the law let off.[/i]

He wouldn't need a costume for Halloween then?

[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;42471889]Why is no one offering to help him pro bono?[/QUOTE] was that a skeleton joke

So what does he do now, does he have to be homeless and unemployed or can he get a new birth certificate and become a new man?

This is really about money. He can appeal to the Federal court= money. His ex-wife would have to pay back the Social Security she collected= money. He'd be declared liable for back child support= money. No one really cares if the law is saying a live person is dead. Everyone wants the money though.

[quote]Robin Miller says she opposed overturning the death ruling, because she would then have to pay back the federal government for the benefits she received and does not have the financial means to do so. Donald Eugene Miller reportedly owed her $26,000 in child support at the time of his “death.” Despite Miller’s efforts to come clean with the court, Davis said there is a three-year legal limit for reversing a death ruling. However, Miller said he wasn’t even aware of his legal “death” until his parents told him about it when he finally returned to Ohio in 2005.[/quote] Now you see why they dont want to overturn it.

You're dead to the law. Badass.

What happens if he gets arrested?, since he is legally dead by law.

[QUOTE=Snapster;42472396]What happens if he gets arrested?, since he is legally dead by law.[/QUOTE] Can they even charge him? He isn't legally a living person, would they deport him?

So does that mean if someone killed him, they wouldn't be charged with murder because he is technically dead?

are you guys fucking retarded, he's not above the law. he's still a person and the laws will apply to him, just with more fancy legalese.

[QUOTE=Lemon.;42472579]are you guys fucking retarded, he's not above the law. he's still a person and the laws will apply to him, just with more fancy legalese.[/QUOTE] He isn't a person of the U.S. according to the judge, Since he doesn't have a social security number.

[QUOTE=Snapster;42472637]He isn't a person of the U.S. according to the judge, Since he doesn't have a social security number.[/QUOTE] Parents don't have to apply for a social security number at their child's birth. It just makes that person ineligible to collect social security benefits. Still have pay in on the program though.

I just watched Dredd today and I just have this image in my head within the context of that world.

he should become heisenberg, he'll be making millions and the government won't even notice :v:

[QUOTE=SilentOpp;42472872]Parents don't have to apply for a social security number at their child's birth. It just makes that person ineligible to collect social security benefits. Still have pay in on the program though.[/QUOTE] i don't think that's true. part of filling out a w2(your tax/wage statement to the irs) is giving your ssn. if you don't have an ssn you can't really fill out the w2, and therefore will have a very hard time paying taxes(and by extension, being legally employed). having an ssn is pretty much required to be a functioning citizen. [editline]10th October 2013[/editline] also oddly enough, due to an exploitation of the social security system, an old friend of mine was given two social security numbers(and names) when he was born. he uses one for fucking up, going to jail, accruing debt, and the other for "being good".

[QUOTE=yawmwen;42473241]i don't think that's true. part of filling out a w2(your tax/wage statement to the irs) is giving your ssn. if you don't have an ssn you can't really fill out the w2, and therefore will have a very hard time paying taxes(and by extension, being legally employed). having an ssn is pretty much required to be a functioning citizen. [editline]10th October 2013[/editline] also oddly enough, due to an exploitation of the social security system, an old friend of mine was given two social security numbers(and names) when he was born. he uses one for fucking up, going to jail, accruing debt, and the other for "being good".[/QUOTE] No, that's incorrect. A social security number is not required but you're right in that many electronic systems use the social as a primary key and can't accept anything else. However, taxes aren't one of them. Straight from SSA website: [QUOTE]Must my child have a Social Security number? No. Getting a Social Security number for your newborn is voluntary. But, it is a good idea to get a number when your child is born. [/QUOTE] Hilariously enough, they'll be able to pay taxes but you can't claim a child as a dependent without a social. It's still a legal status that some people have, it used to be much less well known but many nationwide banks and services have finally corrected their computer systems to accept people without an SSN.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;42473241] also oddly enough, due to an exploitation of the social security system, an old friend of mine was given two social security numbers(and names) when he was born. he uses one for fucking up, going to jail, accruing debt, and the other for "being good".[/QUOTE] That's awesome, multiple creds are fantastic for a million reasons.

[QUOTE=SilentOpp;42473612]No, that's incorrect. A social security number is not required but you're right in that many electronic systems use the social as a primary key and can't accept anything else. However, taxes aren't one of them. Straight from SSA website: Hilariously enough, they'll be able to pay taxes but you can't claim a child as a dependent without a social. It's still a legal status that some people have, it used to be much less well known but many nationwide banks and services have finally corrected their computer systems to accept people without an SSN.[/QUOTE] in order to get hired at any job i'v ever [legally] had i was required to bring my ssc or use my ssn in order to fill out tax paperwork.

being legally dead sound punk as fuck

I guess if he commits a crime they'll deport him [I]to hell[/I]

I have a strange blend of Dredd and Lethal Weapon 2 in my head.

So if he commited genocide he would be sentenced to life?O.O

[QUOTE=yawmwen;42471945]that's the point of "pro bono" [/QUOTE] I know what pro bono means, however, again, what do they have to get out of it? It's going to take thousands of dollars to mount a challenge in a higher court to have the ruling overturned, and it is simply not an issue which affects many at all.

[QUOTE=Snapster;42472396]What happens if he gets arrested?, since he is legally dead by law.[/QUOTE] Technically they can treat him like any ilegal immigrant.

[QUOTE=G71tc4;42474070]being legally dead sound punk as fuck[/QUOTE] Legally Dead is a pretty good band name