• First UK University Announces New Fees - £8,500 Per Year
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[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;28859909]So you either: [list] [*] Get scholarships [*] Got a grant [*] Goto community college [/list] [/QUOTE] Community college ftw :smug:
[QUOTE=cathal6606;28861201]And I didn't think it was possible for the English population to get more stupid.[/QUOTE] how's that economy going, ireland?
As if I needed another reason not to go to Leeds Met.
Interesting this is. One thing the coalition tried to do to calm us all down was to say only a couple of universities would break the 7K barrier. Now we have this University, one of the few previously who didn't touch the old cap, charging well over that. Couple this with the fact that the people I work with at Nottingham University and my head of Sixth Form agree that universities are planning on charging up to the cap, I am having a VERY difficult time believing anything the government say will happen and it was difficult enough already.
Sometimes I'm extremely grateful for living in Scandinavia.
good poor people shouldnt go to college it isnt like they need it anyways
[QUOTE=makingthatmaker;28860288]no[/QUOTE] Yes it should be free. It's pretty stupid for the government to not fully fund education as this means that you'll have less people in high level industry and business as many would be lacking qualifications as they simply can't afford it. This of course means you'll have less people driving trading and stock broking so the economy wont' do so well. You know what else should be free? Public transport, but that's a different thread. [editline]28th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=cathal6606;28861201]And I didn't think it was possible for the English population to get more stupid.[/QUOTE] This 'Coalition' of David Cameron Spanking Nick Clegg was our only alternative to the stupidity of Labour.
[QUOTE=XIII_GT;28859852]No, we're talking about how foreigners IN Sweden can't get free university education which I believe is fair since they don't/havn't paid any taxes prior to moving to Sweden[/QUOTE] Considering the age of the students, they probably haven't paid much taxes either prior to getting their education. It's probably irrelevant, but making Sweden an attractive alternative for studies can prove to have its economical benefits, so the fees should at least be subsidised.
Fuck. Leeds Met was a potential choice for me (Computer forensics) Well, fuck this shit. I'm off to Australia... And it's one of only a few universities in the UK that do that course and would be a viable option for me...
[QUOTE=Vietnow;28862181]Fuck. Leeds Met was a potential choice for me (Computer forensics) Well, fuck this shit. I'm off to Australia... And it's one of only a few universities in the UK that do that course and would be a viable option for me...[/QUOTE] Don't you only have to pay the money back once you're earning over a certain amount per year?
No fucking way. I just got done with all the preparations needed to study in the UK and this is how it ends up? The level of butthurt and disappointment I'm currently experiencing are unfathomable. I've been looking forward to this for years. I hope there'll be some places with reasonable fees. Fuck.
[QUOTE=Ztriker7;28862341]No fucking way. I just got done with all the preparations needed to study in the UK and this is how it ends up? The level of butthurt and disappointment I'm currently experiencing are unfathomable. I've been looking forward to this for years. I hope there'll be some places with reasonable fees. Fuck.[/QUOTE] If you're going to be studying this year (2011/2012) then you don't need to worry.
[QUOTE=matt.ant;28859890]In 2010 when I was looking, it was around £3,000 for a UK student, and £9,000 for international students, so if it's the same then it will be around £27,000 for international students with the new rise[/QUOTE] I'm not entirely sure how it works here in Sweden. It seems that the schools themselves are setting the fees. I assume some school puts higher fees to get a profit. My example was from the Stockholm University.
[QUOTE=Ztriker7;28862341]No fucking way. I just got done with all the preparations needed to study in the UK and this is how it ends up? The level of butthurt and disappointment I'm currently experiencing are unfathomable. I've been looking forward to this for years. I hope there'll be some places with reasonable fees. Fuck.[/QUOTE] Assuming you are outside of the UK (which it seems from the way you phrased your post) the fee structure is completely different anyway.
[QUOTE=Wiggles;28862435]If you're going to be studying this year (2011/2012) then you don't need to worry.[/QUOTE] So if I apply this year for courses starting in 2012, I'll be in the clear and not fall victim to these raised fees during my tuition period? If so, that's a load of my mind. [QUOTE=Jsm;28862482]Assuming you are outside of the UK (which it seems from the way you phrased your post) the fee structure is completely different anyway.[/QUOTE] I'm from within the EU. As far as I've been informed the structure is the same for UK and EU students.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;28862453]I'm not entirely sure how it works here in Sweden. It seems that the schools themselves are setting the fees. I assume some school puts higher fees to get a profit. My example was from the Stockholm University.[/QUOTE] I think all students from EU countries still get free tuition. I won't have to pay since it's a study abroad agreement with an American university, but it also won't count towards residency, so I would have to live in Sweden an additional 4-5 years after I graduate before i could get citizenship. :frown:
[QUOTE=Ztriker7;28862671]So if I apply this year for courses starting in 2012, I'll be in the clear and not fall victim to these raised fees during my tuition period? If so, that's a load of my mind.[/QUOTE] No, I meant if you were going to start studying this September then you'd be fine. If you're applying to start September 2012 then unfortunately you'll get caught up in this mess.
[QUOTE=Wiggles;28862880]No, I meant if you were going to start studying this September then you'd be fine. If you're applying to start September 2012 then unfortunately you'll get caught up in this mess.[/QUOTE] I see. I guess it can't be helped then. Oh well, it's not as if I don't have any alternatives. Thanks for clearing it up for me.
See i wouldn't be so against Universities charging more, if they actually provided services and courses that actually are worth the fee..............i left university last september and i have to say while paying 3,500 a year it wasn't even worth it, there were 2 tutors between a class of around 80 so there was hardly any time to get proper help on a one to one basis and the course was so incredibly disorganised that we weren't sure when half our work was due to be handed in or when classes actually were!
Can't get a job because of the recession, hardly any space for people to join the armed forces and now uni is prohibitively expensive. Not sure what the government wants people to do when they leave college, really. Sit at home on the dole?
[QUOTE=jeimizu;28862778]I think all students from EU countries still get free tuition. I won't have to pay since it's a study abroad agreement with an American university, but it also won't count towards residency, so I would have to live in Sweden an additional 4-5 years after I graduate before i could get citizenship. :frown:[/QUOTE] Maybe you will get hired by a Swedish company after your studies. Which school do you attend? KTH? Lund?
[QUOTE=Camundongo;28862987]Can't get a job because of the recession, hardly any space for people to join the armed forces and now uni is prohibitively expensive. Not sure what the government wants people to do when they leave college, really. Sit at home on the dole?[/QUOTE] You don't have to pay this 8,500 a year whilst you're at University, you only start paying once you're earning over a certain amount.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;28863038]Maybe you will get hired by a Swedish company after your studies. Which school do you attend? KTH? Lund?[/QUOTE] Lund. Does being employed by a Swedish company make citizenship easier?
[QUOTE=Coffee;28863184]You don't have to pay this 8,500 a year whilst you're at University, you only start paying once you're earning over a certain amount.[/QUOTE] I'm aware of that, but the cost is off-putting to say the least. Also, the average graduate salary is £20,000 (2008) for graduates in any form of employment, and £25,000 (2009/2010) for graduates in graduate level jobs - so the majority of graduates who are working are going to be paying their loan back - and the longer pay back time means that not only do graduates get to pay higher tuition fees, but they'll be paying more interest back as well. And nicely enough, the interest rate is liable to go up from 1.1% to 4.4% over the course of this academic year, because it is now being matched with the rates of commercial banks. Lovely.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;28859249]Still much cheaper than any university/college in America. So quit your bitching.[/QUOTE] 1. Americans have a much lower cost of living and more disposable income on average so it works out about the same 2. That's not even true. There are plenty of cheap colleges that can get you a technical degree and if you count in scholarships, that just adds more possibilities
If you hate tuition fees then don't fucking vote conservative I hate britain when it comes to voting sometimes
[QUOTE=jeimizu;28863196]Lund. Does being employed by a Swedish company make citizenship easier?[/QUOTE] I was more thinking that having a job here allows you to live here, which can be added to the time required for citizenship. You have a Permanent Residency in Sweden right? It's required to become a citizen here.
Personally, I believe that anyone who voted Lib Dem at the time was a fool. Their claim that they'd abolish top up fees was obviously rubbish, where was the money going to come from? Also confused as to why people are so surprised this happened, the Lib Dems are small part of a coalition. Given that they got their referendum on AV it was unlikely they'd be able to block anything else.
[QUOTE=Kondor58;28864288]If you hate tuition fees then don't fucking vote conservative I hate britain when it comes to voting sometimes[/QUOTE] Sadly though, they didn't say they would do this. Not to mention they wouldn't even have power if it weren't for Lib Dem votes which are mainly comprised of the poor, misguided students who actually believed what Nick Clegg said.
That shits horrible. Over here in NZ its around 2k per semester. Hopefully UK will sort this shit out.
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