New Wonder Drug that potentially stops Cancer entering human trials in 2014 - Polidicks

My grandapa on my mother's side was just diagnosed with cancer 2 days ago. He just went under surgery to remove 1 foot of his intestines and stitch them back together. He's not doing so well and I don't think he'll last too many more years. Hopefully a cure will be found in my lifetime.

Glad weed is finally being legalized \m/

[QUOTE=Sobek-;41425630]And it'll never be heard of again, like the 6 or 7 thousand other wonder drugs, cures and medical breakthroughs. It's getting harder and harder to be excited about stuff like this when it just vanishes into thin air soon after being announced...[/QUOTE] Contrary to popular belief. [img]http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjg5ODYwNjU2Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTAwNDI4OA@@._V1_SX214_.jpg[/img] Isn't reality.

[QUOTE=J!NX;41426255]what the fuck are you even saying[/QUOTE] I agree the guy you replied to is aj uneducate fuck who should read a god damn book befkde posting it takes

The term "New Wonder" scares me because it makes me think they don't know why it works.

[QUOTE=Badballer;41435588]My girlfriend's Gran recently had a lump removed from her abdomen (or somewhere around there) and is now on some form of chemo therapy in the form of pills which is supposed to not allow the near-cancerous lump to come back. It's had something like a 90% success rate but it's still being tested and she has to make reports of the effect of the drug as well as getting check ups for review. So far it's been pretty good though. Only problem with the drug though is that it costs $10,000 per month, so yeah that's a fucking lot. The amazing thing though is that Medicare (Australia's health care system) is paying for all of it. It's great to see further advancements in cancer research and prevention, once it's affordable though it's be even better. [editline]13th July 2013[/editline] Just to make clear, the medication she is on only prevents the cancer from returning, once it's affected organs and cannot be removed, then it wont work. Hopefully the drug in the article will do a better job of actually eradicating the cancer.[/QUOTE] I hope she pulls through OK mate, I really do... Another interesting thing we discovered along our journey was that there are actually ways to prevent hair loss when going through chemotherapy too. Naturally our doctors all said 'bullshit' to the claim, but my mum went on some pretty strong customised chemo drugs (she got pretty violently ill from it put it that way) and through using these devices, kept all of her hair... Penguin Cold Caps they're called. They're gaining support in America and they're pretty well accepted in the smaller medical circles there, but it's real hard getting people to acknowledge their success here in Australia. My mum actually handles 'distribution' of the cold caps where we are now after having so much success with them herself. Just wanted to throw that out there. It's another one of those things that our doctors simply refused to even consider, but which actually does work. The sort of thing you'll only ever be able to get through a friend of a friend of a friend, that sort of nonsense.

[QUOTE=BlkDucky;41425648]jesus christ you people are predictable. Trials take a [B]long [/B]time, why do you struggle to understand this?[/QUOTE] Dichloroacetic acid. was cancer curer, vanished into thin air, a few people say its incredibly toxic, nothing official.

When the media claims there is a new potential cancer cure they often forget to emphasise that the "promising results" are only limited to very specific cancer types and not all cancers. Another thing to remember is that while it's hard for potential treatments to make it to clinical trails, it's often just as difficult to pass those trials.

Still waiting on Bacta. Come on, medical science!

[QUOTE=willtheoct;41436104]Dichloroacetic acid. was cancer curer, vanished into thin air, a few people say its incredibly toxic, nothing official.[/QUOTE] There haven't been sufficient studies to prove that it is efficacious in treating cancers. If you want, you can blame that on the lack of interest from big pharma as the drug itself is non-patentable (its use against cancer has been patented though) but until it has been formally approved then it really shouldn't be advertised as a cure.

it'll be 8 years too late for my brother.

[QUOTE=Orkel;41426229]Cancer will probably be cured within this decade.[/QUOTE] but there's different kinds of cancer that can be caused by different things

[QUOTE=Sobek-;41434517] In the last 10 years alone we have come across probably 5 or 6 bonafide confirmed 'cures' for many types of cancer, and most of them are completely unrecognised by any health care system or doctors that specialise in the field, and most of them have been around since as early as the late 80's [/QUOTE] So, you have personally came across "bonafide confirmed" cancer cures. Can I see some documentation? Do these cures have names? What about at least a damn case study on one of these "cures"? What I'm getting at here is simple: You having a bad personal experience with the healthcare system doesn't mean anything from a scientific perspective. Scientists don't judge the safety and efficacy of treatments based on one or two claims from less-than-reliable sources. And yes, sadly, your own perceptions don't count as a reliable source, because we are [B]all[/B] subject to cognitive biases and putting our emotions before the facts. If the "cure for cancer" has been found somewhere, the evidence will show it. Until then, the reason the "cure for cancer" isn't being used by doctors is simple: We like our medicine to be based on [B]evidence[/B], and these claimed cancer cures lack any in their favor.

2014 ey? Fuck.

[QUOTE=daschnek;41438182]So, you have personally came across "bonafide confirmed" cancer cures. Can I see some documentation? Do these cures have names? What about at least a damn case study on one of these "cures"? What I'm getting at here is simple: You having a bad personal experience with the healthcare system doesn't mean anything from a scientific perspective. Scientists don't judge the safety and efficacy of treatments based on one or two claims from less-than-reliable sources. And yes, sadly, your own perceptions don't count as a reliable source, because we are [B]all[/B] subject to cognitive biases and putting our emotions before the facts. If the "cure for cancer" has been found somewhere, the evidence will show it. Until then, the reason the "cure for cancer" isn't being used by doctors is simple: We like our medicine to be based on [B]evidence[/B], and these claimed cancer cures lack any in their favor.[/QUOTE] I would need to talk with mum and some of the people we're in contact with in America to get specifics, as it has been a while now since we were knee deep in all of this. I should probably clarify, I mean treatments, not cures - though the success rate has so far been exceptionally high in all of the various treatments we investigated. We specifically went with a clinic in America that used an individually tailored chemotherapy drug in conjunction with high intensity targeted radiation bursts that is administered by injecting a rod of sorts directly into the tumors themselves to kill the cancer cells. I recall mum describing it like someone trying to burn you from the inside out... Thing is, it worked brilliantly and did so for the 6 other patients who went through the same procedures just during the time she was there. There are a number of different clinics around the world actively engaging in alternative treatments like these, however in our case with this specific aggressive cancer, this clinic's treatment was the right choice for us. It was the Burzynski Clinic if you're curious, based in Texas. And I hate to sound all oOoOOohh conspiracy theory, but that evidence you want to wait for, no matter how accurate, resulting or proven it may be, will wind up having practically no impact on the treatment's viability for public engagement. It's difficult to describe just how corrupt the health care system really is. And I'm not just talking about OUR experience or OUR country, this is as a whole. Every single person we met over there in Texas alone taking the treatment had fought a similar battle as we had to wind up at that point... I could go on for hours to try and explain their individual stories to lend further credence to what I'm saying but there's just no point in going through that very special hell again. You'd probably have a great time talking to my mother and some of the doctors she's met along the way to hear everyone's evidence and stories. At the end of the day, don't believe me if you don't want to, it doesn't cause me any worry - I know what the situation is in this case and it's a complete farce. You wouldn't believe what we had to go through just to get to this point, and it's all because of an ignorant and obsolete mindset towards cancer patients and the treatments that work best purely for the government's and doctor's pockets. I can still remember the kind of abuse we copped from every single doctor we encountered just from saying we weren't going to surgically remove her breasts... The way they attacked us then, it was like were just a piece of meat to them. Mum nearly committed suicide over that, you have no idea. It's all about railroading you into going with the established 'treatments' that may or may not work for you purely because that's what works best for the guys up top. Crazy.

[QUOTE=willtheoct;41436104]Dichloroacetic acid. was cancer curer, vanished into thin air, a few people say its incredibly toxic, nothing official.[/QUOTE]It "vanished" because it was reported once by news in order to grab headlines with "new cure for cancer!". They don't bother to report on the clinical trial stages of drugs because they take a very long time and aren't particularly interesting to most people. Would that really make headlines? "Potential cancer cure enters phase I trials", "Potential cancer cure fails clinical trials" etc? Scientists publish this sort of stuff and let journalists sensationalise it because it's hard to get funding, so they have to grab people's attention.

[QUOTE=Sobek-;41439996]I would need to talk with mum and some of the people we're in contact with in America to get specifics, as it has been a while now since we were knee deep in all of this. I should probably clarify, I mean treatments, not cures - though the success rate has so far been exceptionally high in all of the various treatments we investigated. We specifically went with a clinic in America that used an individually tailored chemotherapy drug in conjunction with high intensity targeted radiation bursts that is administered by injecting a rod of sorts directly into the tumors themselves to kill the cancer cells. I recall mum describing it like someone trying to burn you from the inside out... Thing is, it worked brilliantly and did so for the 6 other patients who went through the same procedures just during the time she was there. There are a number of different clinics around the world actively engaging in alternative treatments like these, however in our case with this specific aggressive cancer, this clinic's treatment was the right choice for us. It was the Burzynski Clinic if you're curious, based in Texas. And I hate to sound all oOoOOohh conspiracy theory, but that evidence you want to wait for, no matter how accurate, resulting or proven it may be, will wind up having practically no impact on the treatment's viability for public engagement. It's difficult to describe just how corrupt the health care system really is. And I'm not just talking about OUR experience or OUR country, this is as a whole. Every single person we met over there in Texas alone taking the treatment had fought a similar battle as we had to wind up at that point... I could go on for hours to try and explain their individual stories to lend further credence to what I'm saying but there's just no point in going through that very special hell again. You'd probably have a great time talking to my mother and some of the doctors she's met along the way to hear everyone's evidence and stories. At the end of the day, don't believe me if you don't want to, it doesn't cause me any worry - I know what the situation is in this case and it's a complete farce. You wouldn't believe what we had to go through just to get to this point, and it's all because of an ignorant and obsolete mindset towards cancer patients and the treatments that work best purely for the government's and doctor's pockets. I can still remember the kind of abuse we copped from every single doctor we encountered just from saying we weren't going to surgically remove her breasts... The way they attacked us then, it was like were just a piece of meat to them. Mum nearly committed suicide over that, you have no idea. It's all about railroading you into going with the established 'treatments' that may or may not work for you purely because that's what works best for the guys up top. Crazy.[/QUOTE] Again, if the success rate has been so high for these 'treatments'- where's the evidence? Why won't the Burzynski Clinic finish their clinical trials? Why do they need to rely on testimonials to promote their clinic? It seems to me that if the treatments are so safe/effective that the clinic could invest their money into actually finishing more than one clinical trial, and actually try bringing their treatments to market, instead of investing in making documentaries about the clinic.

suddenly it backfires they accidentally create super cancer In all seriousness, this is great to hear. I really hope cancer will have its ass whooped within my lifetime.

part of me assumes we'll screw up and create zombies, buuuuttt.... anti-cancer drugs are one of the last few pieces we need for human deep space exploration and colonization