New York City bans large sodas and other sugary drinks at restaurants, movie theaters - Polidicks

[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;37658957]Government shouldn't be meddling into what we eat and drink. They should ensure its safe to eat and drink (as in not tainted with disease and such) and that's it. If people want to eat themselves into oblivion let them, and if their health care costs rise because of it so be it. If food is the reason why you're fat it's your own damn fault, and if you're not man enough to accept responsibility for it you can go be fat somewhere else.[/QUOTE] Basically this is how I feel on it. I do agree to an extent with the others on "it helps people who don't have self-control", but I could see that they could get their way around it easily enough even so.

SOYLENT GREEN IS DIET COKE!

The fuck....

thank god for this, finally there won't be any more fat people in New York surely this will prevent people from becoming obese [QUOTE=Lambeth;37659113]Blows my mind that people have a problem with this[/QUOTE] have a problem with drinking lots, or have a problem with the bill?

Well looks like they lost any tourist money they would have gotten out of me.

Fucking movie theatres are dry as hell, you need something to drink at all times or else you'll be dying of thirst near the end of the movie

[QUOTE=kaze4159;37658603]And it still won't work If they really wanted, they'd just buy two drinks[/QUOTE] "I'm sorry sir but you've had too much for one day"

[QUOTE=Ridge;37659186]SOYLENT GREEN IS DIET COKE![/QUOTE] That must be why I like Diet Coke better than regular.

[QUOTE=MTSS;37658568]What the fuck is this world coming too.[/QUOTE] one small step for man, one giant step for america.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37659203]thank god for this, finally there won't be any more fat people in New York surely this will prevent people from becoming obese have a problem with drinking lots, or have a problem with the bill?[/QUOTE] The bill

[QUOTE=Milkyway M16;37658618]Turning the country into a nanny state one bullshit law at a time.[/QUOTE] Soccer moms are one of the biggest threats to the modern society.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;37658780]I have nothing wrong with this. The prices at movie theatres are a ripoff anyway.[/QUOTE] You do know that concessions in a movie theater is the only way the theater makes money? Theaters make almost nothing on ticket sales (opening week of most movies is usually 90% hollywood and 10% theater in most cases or worse.) So if you had ticket price set at $5.75, and you had 1000 people for a day (which would be extremely busy and rare unless you had some blockbuster movie everyone wanted to see) then the movie theater would get about $100 in revenue. $100 a day isn't going to pay all of the employees, taxes, electricity and building fees for every day of operation. And I hate people that sneak food in, and hate them even more when they're ignorant like you and get in a pissy fit when they're caught with it and told they aren't allowed to have it and must throw it away or leave it in their car. People that successfully sneak food in are usually assholes that don't clean up after themselves and leave a huge mess everywhere. I have no qualms of ejecting people from theaters that do this and making sure they don't get a refund on anything.

[QUOTE=bohb;37659487]You do know that concessions in a movie theater is the only way the theater makes money? Theaters make almost nothing on ticket sales (opening week of most movies is usually 90% hollywood and 10% theater in most cases or worse.) So if you had ticket price set at $5.75, and you had 1000 people for a day (which would be extremely busy and rare unless you had some blockbuster movie everyone wanted to see) then the movie theater would get about $100 in revenue. $100 a day isn't going to pay all of the employees, taxes, electricity and building fees for every day of operation. And I hate people that sneak food in, and hate them even more when they're ignorant like you and get in a pissy fit when they're caught with it and told they aren't allowed to have it and must throw it away or leave it in their car. People that successfully sneak food in are usually assholes that don't clean up after themselves and leave a huge mess everywhere. I have no qualms of ejecting people from theaters that do this and making sure they don't get a refund on anything.[/QUOTE] I did not know this but I won't change my position on the matter. It's not like they can't sell popcorn and hotdogs and nachos and candy at the same size.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;37659522]It's not like they can't sell popcorn and hotdogs and nachos and candy at the same size.[/QUOTE] Huh? The last time I checked, hotdogs, nachos and candy were usually only a single size per type. Popcorn is different sizes because some people don't want huge amounts. But if NYC wants people to lose weight, banning sales of large sodas isn't going to impact it. If they really want to curb obesity, they need to ban things like movie theater popcorn. For reference, the average popcorn at a movie theater is popped in a popcorn popper in a deluge of several ounces of the cheapest and most bad for you oil (usually coconut oil, which is extremely high in fat, saturated fat and calories) and also has like a 1/8 cup of chemical season salt added to the ounces of oil to give it that yellow color. And that isn't even with the "butter" that you can have put on it. Again for reference, the "butter" isn't actually butter, it's usually canola oil with an artificial chemical that makes it taste buttery, but it has zero dairy product in it. I think one tablespoon of it has 40 calories (a bottle of coke is 60 I think?) and people usually ask for "layered" butter (which is like a half cup of the stuff.) A tub of popcorn like this has more fat, saturated fat, calories and sodium than any mega monster burger you can buy, or any pizza you can make. It's basically more of everything bad that you could eat in an entire week, and they're stuck up on sodas.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;37659522]I did not know this but I won't change my position on the matter. It's not like they can't sell popcorn and hotdogs and nachos and candy at the same size.[/QUOTE] You still haven't explained why you think this bill is okay. I mean there's basically no chance of it doing any good for anything. Just because you're indifferent to it or it doesn't affect you specifically, doesn't mean it's not a bad thing.

How is this a big deal? I think it's a great idea.

Such is a stupid legislation. How about investing in fucking education so the masses have some ounce of personal fucking value and belief in themselves and their own knowledge and understanding of the world towards their own physical bodies and philosophy that is unless they don't want us to be educated.....wait.....sounds familiar.........

[QUOTE=Suitcase;37659600]How is this a big deal? I think it's a great idea.[/QUOTE] It's pointless regulation that will make no difference in any way. It might be different if there was some positive outcome but there isn't. Really not that hard to grasp.

I think Snapple is exempt from this ban(its actually a sugary beverage ban). Semi related: a few years ago the mayor passed a law so that NYC schools could only have vending machines that sell Snapple rather than sodas. Totally related: The mayor is a majority share holder of Snapple.................. Only a matter of time before everything except government approved food is either illegal or heavily taxed like cigarettes "as a means to protect people". Seriously, it may just be soda and I honestly AM in the obese category, but I have over the last few years started to really hate living in New York. Rather than try to find a "solution", they take problem things and milk people for money via fines and taxes. EDIT: This also was sort of a "spite" thing as a couple of years ago, ol' fuhrer Mike tried to get a "obesity tax" put on non diet drinks(except Snapple of course) and pretty much anything that isn't considered a primary food.

I knew this would happen. After tobacco, it was the obvious next step

[QUOTE=Suitcase;37659600]How is this a big deal? I think it's a great idea.[/QUOTE] It'd be like banning the sales of gasoline at more then ten gallons at a time. You could still fill up your tank, it'd just take multiple purchases. In other words, it's a stupid idea.

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;37659593]You still haven't explained why you think this bill is okay. I mean there's basically no chance of it doing any good for anything. Just because you're indifferent to it or it doesn't affect you specifically, doesn't mean it's not a bad thing.[/QUOTE] It's not specifically outlawing large amounts of soda, just large amounts of soda in any sort of place that isn't a grocery store. I don't really buy the notion that they'll just buy two. I'm a lazy ass and I wouldn't bother carrying two sodas.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;37659656]It's not specifically outlawing large amounts of soda, just large amounts of soda in any sort of place that isn't a grocery store. I don't really buy the notion that they'll just buy two. I'm a lazy ass and I wouldn't bother carrying two sodas.[/QUOTE] wtf is the point in making a bill that does nothing but annoy the customer and hamper the business when you can just as easily get fat on everything else they sell you can buy every hot dog they have in the theatre but god forbid you get too much soda

[QUOTE=SteakStyles;37659646]I think Snapple is exempt from this ban(its actually a sugary beverage ban). Semi related: a few years ago the mayor passed a law so that NYC schools could only have vending machines that sell Snapple rather than sodas.[/QUOTE] goddamn really? Snapple has about the same or more sugar in it than soda.

[QUOTE=Apache249;37659650]It'd be like banning the sales of gasoline at more then ten gallons at a time. You could still fill up your tank, it'd just take multiple purchases. In other words, it's a stupid idea.[/QUOTE] this is a dumb simile. Human bodies are way more complex than cars.

[QUOTE=bohb;37659572] (a bottle of coke is 60 I think?)[/QUOTE] nah a can of coke alone is 140 calories 20 oz of coke is around 260

fatass ruin everything for everyone forever

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37659668]wtf is the point in making a bill that does nothing but annoy the customer and hamper the business when you can just as easily get fat on everything else they sell you can buy every hot dog they have in the theatre but god forbid you get too much soda[/QUOTE] Sugar(which soda has loads of) blocks the "I am content with the amount of food I have consumed" signal to your brain. Less soda, less likelihood that a person will eat and eat and eat.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;37659694]Sugar(which soda has loads of) blocks the "I am content with the amount of food I have consumed" signal. Less soda, less likelihood that a person will eat and eat and eat.[/QUOTE] replace hot dogs with sugary snacks [editline]14th September 2012[/editline] im aware that large amounts of sugar are bad for you but so are a million other things and if an adult wants to consume a large amount of something they can and will. the solution should be education and making a person not want to stuff themselves because in the end unless you go for some kind of full out ban, people will end up fat if they are the type of person who would become fat without the government telling them what they're allowed to eat. [editline]14th September 2012[/editline] im pretty sure its not just sodas at the cinema that tips peoples scales to the "large" area

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37659699]replace hot dogs with sugary snacks[/QUOTE] I'll wager they're more likely to share those.