Chelsea Manning to receive military 'gender treatment' - Polidicks

If anyone continues the shitposting I'll delete your account. (i cant really do that, just dont shitpost please)

[QUOTE=Tom Hutchins;45426627]Dunno, a realist? Somebody that accepts that hormones and speaking in a lighter voice don't change you into a woman. They need their own word, like "Shim" or something, because there is no way in hell that's a woman. I wouldn't fuck it. God I'm such a cis scum. Fucking patriarchy.[/QUOTE] Not sure if serious or just trying to start shit Here's my two cents, nobody is asking you to fuck her so shut the fuck up.

[QUOTE=Flapadar;45426688]I didn't pretend to be an expert on the dictionary. You asked what defined a woman, so I gave you the dictionary definition of a woman. If you disagree you can always submit a correction to whoever wrote it.[/QUOTE] Technically you gave the definition of a female, not a woman. But this is good for her, Americas handling this better than I'd expect. I honestly expected her to have "disappeared" by now.

Oh nevermind thanks swebonny

[QUOTE=Tom Hutchins;45426445]He* His names Brad. A chicken can paint itself black and white and stand around in fields. It doesn't suddenly become a cow.[/QUOTE] "His name's Brad" Rather curious, if he'd said that he wanted to be called any other male name instead of Bradley/Brad, would you permit that? It's only when they defy gender lines that it becomes impermissible and invalid to Tom Hutchins of Facepunch?

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[QUOTE=Crimor;45426715]Technically you gave the definition of a female, not a woman. But this is good for her, Americas handling this better than I'd expect. I honestly expected her to have "disappeared" by now.[/QUOTE] Woman: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/N368xGP.png[/IMG] Female: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/dg3igH1.png[/IMG]

Biological sex and gender identity are two different things, thank god that some people can see that now. It's like saying if you were born into a jewish family, you can not believe in a different religion, why the fuck not? I'll believe anything I want, I will fuck anyone I want as long as they are cool with it, I will call anyone anything I want [I]as long as they are cool with it[/I]. Why in the fuckedy fucking fuck would I be the one to dictate who believes in what, who fucks who and who does what? Anyone should be able to get any treatment they want if they feel that they need it unless it is critical to their health.

Good on her! I've noticed there's still a heap of journalists publishing reports regarding Bradley though..

[QUOTE=Clavus;45426683]Sex is the package you were born with. Gender is what you identify as. It's good form to address a person according to the gender he or she identifies as. Otherwise you're just not very nice.[/QUOTE] Transsexuals are a special case in that their brain is /really/ like that of a womans, although in a male body. Gender is only used with reference to grammar, although for some reason some people are using it as a replacement for the word "Sex". You address a person according to what sex their brain is (in the instance of a mtf transsexual, a female), not as the gender.

[QUOTE=Emperorconor;45426815]Transsexuals are a special case in that their brain is /really/ like that of a womans, although in a male body. Gender is only used with reference to grammar, although for some reason some people are using it as a replacement for the word "Sex". You address a person according to what sex their brain is (in the instance of a mtf transsexual, a female), not as the gender.[/QUOTE] Don't rate him dumb guys, he is kinda right. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexualism"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexualism[/URL]

[QUOTE=Emperorconor;45426815]Transsexuals are a special case in that their brain is /really/ like that of a womans, although in a male body. Gender is only used with reference to grammar, although for some reason some people are using it as a replacement for the word "Sex". You address a person according to what sex their brain is (in the instance of a mtf transsexual, a female), not as the gender.[/QUOTE] Had a quick dig around and found sources to back this up. [url]http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan.html#.U8j5SW2nKos[/url] [url]http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.5.6564[/url] [url]http://www.cakeworld.info/transsexualism/what-is#ch1[/url]

I feel sorry this person, that she.. I meant he has a mental disorder. And also, the rest of you pro-faggots in this thread. Please for a love of god stop shoving down our throat from your gayness agenda, alright? [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Using proxy" - SteveUK))[/highlight]

1 posts, July 2014. Report, don't reply.

[QUOTE=Tinter;45427021]1 posts, July 2014. Report, don't reply.[/QUOTE] If you and the rest of you report me, you all will always be known as a pussy, remember that.

I smell an alt of the shitposter that started the shitstorm in this thread.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;45426671]So what about sterile women then?[/QUOTE] They are still naturally woman, they have their womanly anatomy still in place even if not functional, and so on? Something that no transgender person can actually ever have, at least not today.

Kind of annoyed that my tax dollars are going towards this but hey the govt pisses it away on worse shit so why not Don't take this as my not agreeing with people being allowed to do this I just think s/he should have to pay for it

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;45427466]They are still naturally woman, they have their womanly anatomy still in place even if not functional, and so on? Something that no transgender person can actually ever have, at least not today.[/QUOTE] My mother had ovarian cancer and had to have her ovaries removed, oops she's not a woman anymore

[QUOTE=InsanePyro;45428077]Kind of annoyed that my tax dollars are going towards this but hey the govt pisses it away on worse shit so why not Don't take this as my not agreeing with people being allowed to do this I just think s/he should have to pay for it[/QUOTE] You're right, she can pay for it with all those mad stacks she's making in that military prison.

[QUOTE=Dalndox;45428162]You're right, she can pay for it with all those mad stacks she's making in that military prison.[/QUOTE] Thats her fault. I mean she made the decision to do the crime (lets not get into that) and it comes with consequences.

[QUOTE=InsanePyro;45428226]Thats her fault. I mean she made the decision to do the crime (lets not get into that) and it comes with consequences.[/QUOTE] I mean people don't have rights in prison, right? We should just gas the whole lot to be honest.

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;45428249]I mean people don't have rights in prison, right? We should just gas the whole lot to be honest.[/QUOTE] Not receiving HRT therapy =/= executing prisoners.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;45428266]Not receiving HRT therapy =/= executing prisoners.[/QUOTE] Obviously not, but the point is that being a criminal doesn't inherently mean you loose all your rights. Hell, do we even know [I]what[/I] she leaked? We can hardly pass judgement about whether a person deserves a certain sentence without that information.

[QUOTE=Irockz;45428079]My mother had ovarian cancer and had to have her ovaries removed, oops she's not a woman anymore[/QUOTE] No, I'm sure your mother is still a woman.. Or did they remove [i]all[/i] of her 'woman-parts' as well? And even if all of her organs that distinguish her as a female had to be removed, I'd still see her as woman because she used to have them before.

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;45428290]Obviously not, but the point is that being a criminal doesn't inherently mean you loose all your rights.[/QUOTE] Rights to what? A treatment that 100% of other non-incarcerated and non-criminal military personnel don't have the right to receive?

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;45428296]Rights to what? A treatment that 100% of other non-incarcerated and non-criminal military personnel don't have the right to receive?[/QUOTE] Fair enough on that one, what I think [I]should[/I] be a right does not equate to what legally is one. EDIT: Actually no fuck that not having this treatment is a danger to her mental health, and I'm pretty sure they [I]have[/I] to treat risks to a person's mental health in prison. If they don't, that's a huge flaw in the prison system.

Stop this shit right now, if she wants to seek resolution for her gender dysphoria then let her, its a basic human right. The important details are on [I]what she did[/I] not [I]who she is[/I], i.e. despite the controversial nature of the leak, I'm glad the army is taken down a peg.

[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;45428347]Stop this shit right now, if she wants to seek resolution for her gender dysphoria then let her, its a basic human right. The important details are on [I]what she did[/I] not [I]who she is[/I], i.e. despite the controversial nature of the leak, I'm glad the army is taken down a peg.[/QUOTE] as much as I am [I]for [/I]personal freedoms and equality for everyone no matter their self identity, it's not a 'right' in any sense of the word and arguing for this on the basis of being a basic human necessity is hurtful to these kinds of cases

do people seriously get mad at someone making a choice like this i mean whatever i'd be more concerned about the person whos getting angry over something like this' mental health