[QUOTE=Leo Leonardo;24698772]What would stop them from getting their own guns and shooting up the whole house? This is MS-13 we're talking about, not some kids.[/QUOTE]
It does not say for definite they were MS-13
for all we know they were a bunch of kids
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The big elephant in the room is why they were threatening him anyway
[QUOTE=SwissArmyKnife;24692893]
Duty-to-retreat: You're legally required to retreat from your home if an intruder is attempting to commit a felony inside, if you are unable to retreat you must state your intention to use deadly force before doing so. Warning shots are illegal and brandishing the weapon can be result in criminal charges against you.
[b]Virginia[/b]
[/QUOTE]
I hate my state
:smith:
NY Cops: "hurr lets no arress teh gang lets arest da victim we r so gud derrr"
[QUOTE=James*;24698788]It does not say for definite they were MS-13
for all we know they were a bunch of kids
[editline]01:22AM[/editline]
The big elephant in the room is why they were threatening him anyway[/QUOTE]
Yes and no, in my opinion. I believe it very well could have been MS-13, due to their huge expansion in the US, but then again, 20 or so gang members probably wouldn't take so kindly to a couple shots fired at the ground near them.
[QUOTE=Dolton;24698861]I hate my state
:smith:[/QUOTE]
Sheriff where I live(stafford County) said cocking a shotgun is telling them you intend to use lethal force :v:
[QUOTE=SwissArmyKnife;24693096]Read the article and previous posts. He had the rifle legally, it's not an assault rifle because it has one firing mode (Semi-automatic).[/QUOTE]
Either way, it doesnt matter. he discharged a deadly firearm, and until the details of the case are worked out, an arrest is fine.
Arresting him doesn't mean they threw him to the ground and shoved his face in the dirt before throwing him in jail, they probably took him into the police station for questioning as youd do with anybody who fires a firearm in public. Somebody being on your property and threatening you from a distance does not mean you can get off the hook without a questioning.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;24687468]I really really hope he gets off without any punishment.
There should be no fucking punishment for defending yourself from a bunch of killers.
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It was probably a semi-automatic.[/QUOTE]
Yep, the media loves to call everything an Assault Weapon or an AK-47.
Damn this happened pretty close to me, haven't heard about it till now.
I think that he did the right thing, I mean 20 gang members on your property? Jeez.
Warning shots are illegal, but warning someone then shooting them is not. He wouldn't have gone to jail if he just shot them since he warned them.
this man wouldn't see charges if this happened in darkrp
Braaap
Hahaha fucking justice system. Thats stupid, I would have shot one of them.
so was it an actual AK-47 or was it just a civ AK?
Most likely it was a civilian model. Also, as I understand it, he's being charged for endangering people who were endangering him and his family. That is stupidity of the first degree.
[QUOTE=gparent;24687170]Go out on the street and shoot[b] a few .45 rounds[/b] at random on the driveway.
Tell me if the people around you don't find it a big deal.[/QUOTE]
hurr hurr he must have super ammo cheets enabled
Should have come out naked with a raging hard on screaming, "I'M GOING TO RAPE YOUR DEAD BODIES AFTER I SHOOT YOU!"
Then shot them all.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;24693423]Most of the gang members that formed MS-13 were Guatemalan rebels, who were renown for their style of killing soldiers and government officials.[/QUOTE]
MS-13 (Mara [b]Salva[/b]trucha) was created in LA by Salvadoran immigrants not Guatemalan rebels, where did you hear that? Most of your posts about MS-13, torturing and beheading every time, sounds like you're either talking out of your ass or watch way too many Gangland shows.
[QUOTE=markfu;24695769]Its funny how sucky New Hampshire's law is when they are pretty lax about guns. Hell a lot of people in Massachusetts drive up to New Hampshire to buy guns[/QUOTE]
New Hampshire actually has a Castle Doctrine but like New York, Pennsylvania and Idaho it's not supported by any specific legislation, only previous cases so it can be a bit shaky.
I'm using this article in both my Criminal Justice course as well as my English course.
Ugh, great. Now I have to go to bed thinking about this fucking gang all night. Thanks for making me paranoid, OP. :saddowns:
nassau is like 1 hour away from me fhsrgh
[QUOTE=Aman V;24693817]Oh wow. Just reading that makes me angry a bit. Yeah so a burglar breaks into MY home to steal MY property and possibly intentionally or unintentionally hurt MY family, so my course of action is supposed to be roll over and take it? If I do something to try and stop this CRIMINAL, the criminal pretty much is now the victim? oh yeah
[I]":frown: I broke into a guys house and stole his cash and valuables, but he pointed a gun at me and told me to get on the ground that's not fair! I want compensation!"[/I]
Fuck you I will defend my home and my family not crawl out the window and give up[/QUOTE]
This.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;24700118]so was it an actual AK-47 or was it just a civ AK?[/QUOTE]
who knows the media has :downs: when it comes to anything gun related.
It could have been a ruger 10/22 I wouldn't even put it past the retarded journalists.
Im sorry but I would have gunned them all down for even mentioning my family.
[QUOTE=gparent;24687170]Go out on the street and shoot a few .45 rounds at random on the driveway.
Tell me if the people around you don't find it a big deal.[/QUOTE]
Literally and idiot.
[QUOTE=faze;24688199]Pistols need to be registered[/QUOTE]
Gun Registration? What's that? :clint: [IMG]http://www.softicons.com/download/internet-cons/american-states-icons-by-custom-icon-design/png/32/Texas-Flag.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=faze;24688199]this is the same in all states, and require a waiting period, usually one week.[/QUOTE]
What in the sam hell are you talking about 'waiting periods'?
[QUOTE=faze;24688199]Rifles can be purchased and taken home the same day, and don't need to be registered. Pistols require a carry permit in most states, and some states it's almost impossible to get a carry permit.[/QUOTE]
That reminds me open carry is illegal as hell here despite the Cowboy heritage and shit.
[QUOTE=faze;24688199]Fully automatic weapons require you to pay for a full auto license. Maryland is $200 for a lifetime. Not sure about other states.[/QUOTE]
It's only a extensive background check and a Tax Stamp, no license required, also it's $200 [b]per[/b] automatic weapon.
[QUOTE=Ubercharged;24710828]Literally and idiot.[/QUOTE]
Says the guy who 1. cannot spell 2. doesn't even understand my post.
[QUOTE=Lenni;24696249]YES, 'CAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE DID! You fucking imbecile...
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See above. I know damn fucking well that's not what happened, I was explaining the [B]endangering others[/B] charges to the people here who obviously do not understand them. AKA they do not have the mental capacity to understand *why* firing a live weapon on your own lawn can be considered unlawful. And I never said that the guy shouldn't have defended himself, or that what he did is morally wrong. I sure hope 100% that the charges are dropped. I'm just saying something perfectly logical and definitely not dumb, but rather smart: If a bunch of gang members are at your door, don't go out the door with a fucking AK. Stay inside where it is _safer_, and only shoot something you intend to kill.
But some idiot is gonna quote me and twist whatever I say, anyway, so what's the point.
Only in USA where criminals have rights over honest people.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;24688813]This, although you can't be in your house all the time. There's no charges this guy can be convicted on, other than if the AK47 was actually a full auto Rifle, which I think IS illegal, unless you have necessary licenses[/QUOTE]
There's no fucking thing as 'licenses' for any weapon in the United States other then having to have a SOT License(I.E. for Dealing Alcohol and Firearms) at which point gives you access to post '86 Automatics
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[QUOTE=massn7;24689391]He doesn't. He owns a semi-automatic variant of a well-known assault rifle. The semi-auto part negates the status of assault rifle; an AR has to be selective fire.
Basically he just has a high capacity rifle.[/QUOTE]
There's no such thing as a 'Assault Rifle' under US law, only [i]Rifles[/i] and [i]Machine Guns[/i].
[QUOTE=Broseph_;24711209]Gun Registration? What's that? :clint: [IMG]http://www.softicons.com/download/internet-cons/american-states-icons-by-custom-icon-design/png/32/Texas-Flag.png[/IMG]
What in the sam hell are you talking about 'waiting periods'?
That reminds me open carry is illegal as hell here despite the Cowboy heritage and shit.
It's only a extensive background check and a Tax Stamp, no license required, also it's $200 [B]per[/B] automatic weapon.[/QUOTE]
Here in Washington state its open cary. You can cary a pistol visible on your hip. Just cant hide it without a permit.
Drive his cusin home. Niko...
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;24699901]Hahaha fucking justice system. Thats stupid, I would have shot one of them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;24710746]Im sorry but I would have gunned them all down for even mentioning my family.[/QUOTE]
And you would hopefully spend the rest of your lives in prison
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