Gtx 1080 and 1070 displayports do not work with Vive
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I just bought a bunch of adapters for my DP's for my 1080 since all my monitors are HDMI. DP has a lot of weird things going on with Nvidia's implementation of it going back to the 600 series.
Had some issues getting two of my monitors being detected properly when using DP and I just thought it was the adapter, turns out its a common issue when using them. Its just an easy fix where you have to unplug them and let them sit for 5 seconds and plug them back in but its kind of annoying.
I just got my evga gtx 1080 ftw 2 weeks ago and didn't realize it only had one HDMI port, buying two displayport cords on amazon now so that when I buy my vive in a month or two I'll be ready in case this hasn't been fixed yet.
I should be using displayport already but I just didn't really have a reason to.
I love DP, everyone should try DP at least once.
[QUOTE=Levelog;50657194]Free to implement, more flexible in every way besides the port construction itself :v:, daisy chaining, all adaptivesync platforms are DP only, extremely compatible with passive adapters. I'd argue that the DP standard itself is actually more common than HDMI nowadays. Pretty much every laptop, tablet, and smartphone uses it for it's internal display. Thunderbolt and microUSB (slimDP) video output use it.
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Not to mention that dualmode DP is just straight up HDMI capable. Sure, maybe GPU manufacturers should start including a DP to HDMI adapter like they used to for DVI-I to VGA, but DP is just a superior technology and there's no real reason to delay widespread adoption. I have a drawer full of VGA cables still, doesn't mean we shouldn't have moved to DVI/HDMI. They were both capable of the best resolution at a time as well (1080@60).[/QUOTE]
Can't Type C also carry displayport (but not HDMI) now? Or is that part of the 3.1 spec? It's all so confusing.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50657593]Can't Type C also carry displayport (but not HDMI) now? Or is that part of the 3.1 spec? It's all so confusing.[/QUOTE]
Yeah its alternate display port something something. Uses a couple of the pins I think and is a new DP standard.
[QUOTE=IrishBandit;50656439]Bad title, the HDMI port works but not the Displayports.[/QUOTE]
So if you have a HDMI monitor you need a HDMI to Displayport adapter to connect the Vive and a Displayport to HDMI adapter to connect the monitor?
[QUOTE=Murkrow;50657848]So if you have a HDMI monitor you need a HDMI to Displayport adapter to connect the Vive and a Displayport to HDMI adapter to connect the monitor?[/QUOTE]
never seen a monitor with only hdmi, there's dvi as well which most monitors use (and it's better than hdmi)
DVI is literally HDMI without audio. And depending on the version no artificial limitations.
The only way I can even use my Vive and two other monitors is thanks to an DP to HDMI adapter I bought.
Wouldn't be a problem if more cards had more HDMI ports but they usually only have one but have 3 DisplayPort ports.
[QUOTE=Scot;50657014]ok i'll post again
DP isn't so much better than HDMI that it's "halting the progress of tech". HDMI is improving just like DP is; the latest standard supports 4K/60p, the maximum consumers can currently (and for the foreseeable future) get their hands on. All DP really has over HDMI, realistically, is that it's free to implement.[/QUOTE]
Have fun with higher refresh rates at higher resolution without DP.
[QUOTE=Scot;50656491]I know displayport is the future and all that but does anyone actually own a monitor with a DP input? It's been around for years but it still hasn't been widely adopted. Why put three displayports with only one HDMI, the most widely adopted output standard ever?[/QUOTE]
all three of my monitors support DP
[QUOTE=Levelog;50657900]DVI is literally HDMI without audio. And depending on the version no artificial limitations.[/QUOTE]
DVI can actually carry audio. I use a DVI-to-HDMI cable to hook up my TV and it pipes through fine.
[QUOTE=Scot;50656491]I know displayport is the future and all that but does anyone actually own a monitor with a DP input? It's been around for years but it still hasn't been widely adopted. Why put three displayports with only one HDMI, the most widely adopted output standard ever?[/QUOTE]
DVI has the been the standard in my experience.
[QUOTE=Tamschi;50656475]It's still quite an issue if the card has only one HDMI port (which seems to be the case with the default model) and your monitor requires that already.[/QUOTE]
Thankfully my monitor is VGA while I've got a DVI converter on my card and only my second monitor forces me to use HDMI (since it's a small TV we had around being unused)
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[QUOTE=Anti Christ;50658333]all three of my monitors support DP[/QUOTE]
Some people's don't.
And monitors can be expensive.
[QUOTE=gk99;50658614]
Some people's don't.
And monitors can be expensive.[/QUOTE]
If you bought a vive you already have a lot of money into your whole setup. and i imagine if you have this powerful of a card you've got a monitor that can actually display what it can put out which surely has DP. so this is kind of a silly discussion in this context.
DVI is great up until you use any screen bigger than 1200p
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[QUOTE=gk99;50658614]
Some people's don't.
And monitors can be expensive.[/QUOTE]
They can buy adaptors
and if they can't afford 2$ adapters then how the fuck do they own a monitor to begin with
[QUOTE=.Lain;50656505]it's an open standard, electrically compatible with DVI-D and HDMI, and has a better physical connector than either DVI or HDMI
it's also more future proof than HDMI is due to its design[/QUOTE]
When it comes to TV shit, none of it is truly open standard. It's proposed by VESA, which is indeed not charging for using the port (Unlike HDMI), it is still a 'closed standard'.
Furthermore MPEG LA is still claiming royalties, meaning if you want to be in the clear, you'll need to pay $0.20/unit to MPEG LA.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;50657891]never seen a monitor with only hdmi, there's dvi as well which most monitors use (and it's better than hdmi)[/QUOTE]
tbh hdmi just makes shit slightly white looking, I hate it
sometimes its not terrible though
DVI is so much better than HDMI too because you can lock it onto your monitor
[QUOTE=Wiggles;50658340]DVI can actually carry audio. I use a DVI-to-HDMI cable to hook up my TV and it pipes through fine.[/QUOTE]
Its a hacky implementation not part of the actual standard iirc.
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[QUOTE=glitchvid;50658772]When it comes to TV shit, none of it is truly open standard. It's proposed by VESA, which is indeed not charging for using the port (Unlike HDMI), it is still a 'closed standard'.
Furthermore MPEG LA is still claiming royalties, meaning if you want to be in the clear, you'll need to pay $0.20/unit to MPEG LA.[/QUOTE]
They're still in dispute with MPEG about the royalties. Hopefully we'll see the day when it goes away.
dvi is shit
fuck those stupid screws
DP and HDMI 2.0 are the same thing from the end user point of view, and usb-c displays won't take off until graphics cards have power passthroughs that let you power your monitor from the usb cable itself.
[QUOTE=J!NX;50658756]DVI is great up until you use any screen bigger than 1200p
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DVI can do 2560x1600 @ 60 hz.
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[QUOTE=meppers;50659002]dvi is shit
fuck those stupid screws
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Fuck that, screws are the best part about DVI. Users trash DP and HDMI ports constantly.
[QUOTE=meppers;50659002]dvi is shit
fuck those stupid screws
DP and HDMI 2.0 are the same thing from the end user point of view, and usb-c displays won't take off until graphics cards have power passthroughs that let you power your monitor from the usb cable itself.[/QUOTE]
USB-C to DP (on laptops) could become pretty common, though.
[QUOTE=meppers;50659002]dvi is shit
fuck those stupid screws
DP and HDMI 2.0 are the same thing from the end user point of view, and usb-c displays won't take off until graphics cards have power passthroughs that let you power your monitor from the usb cable itself.[/QUOTE]
A single cable monitor would be the fucking sickest thing ever. Though I don't see it happening any time soon, USB doesn't provide enough power in any form of the spec to run a display if I'm recalling correctly.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;50659118]A single cable monitor would be the fucking sickest thing ever. Though I don't see it happening any time soon, USB doesn't provide enough power in any form of the spec to run a display if I'm recalling correctly.[/QUOTE]
Many smaller monitors (and maybe even some larger ones) could probably run on a 100W - isn't that the spec?
[QUOTE=Dr McNinja;50658687]If you bought a vive you already have a lot of money into your whole setup. and i imagine if you have this powerful of a card you've got a monitor that can actually display what it can put out which surely has DP. so this is kind of a silly discussion in this context.[/QUOTE]
This is nonsense.
If I had a Vive and a GTX 1080, I still wouldn't have changed out my monitor which doesn't have DP.
It works just fine with DVI.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;50659118]A single cable monitor would be the fucking sickest thing ever. Though I don't see it happening any time soon, USB doesn't provide enough power in any form of the spec to run a display if I'm recalling correctly.[/QUOTE]
28 inch 4k monitors consume around 50 watts, half of the power limit of usb-c
[QUOTE=Scot;50656491]I know displayport is the future and all that but does anyone actually own a monitor with a DP input?[/QUOTE]
It's actually not uncommon on higher end displays. Cheap ones only have 1 or 2 inputs, usually DVI + HDMI. Higher end displays frequently have 4-6 inputs, one of which is display port. In fact, I'd say that DP is more common than VGA at this point*.
*for new monitors obviously. There's tons of old equipment out there.
[QUOTE=Demache;50659079]DVI can do 2560x1600 @ 60 hz.
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Fuck that, screws are the best part about DVI. Users trash DP and HDMI ports constantly.[/QUOTE]
dvi failed to output display for me at 2560x1440 60hz
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;50659376]dvi failed to output display for me at 2560x1440 60hz[/QUOTE]
Then you don't have a dual link cable. My 1440p 100hz display is on DVI.
[QUOTE=meppers;50659187]28 inch 4k monitors consume around 50 watts, half of the power limit of usb-c[/QUOTE]
I appear to be recalling incorrectly.
I do like that we are pushing towards these one-port-fits-all connections now. Should make cable hunting easier in the future if we keep up.
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