Report: 173 law enforcement officers killed on duty in 2011 - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Contag;33946704]Because volunteer police would attract all the worst. If I was a criminal you could bet your ass I'd be volunteering as a cop![/QUOTE] I don't see how that's any more likely than an arsonist volunteering to be a firefighter.

[QUOTE=Greenen72;33947079]What I said was overly hostile, but you managed to turn the topic from "I'm sad these guys died" to police brutality[/QUOTE] i was a dick to you but its your fault because a collection of people decided on their own to respond to you!!

[QUOTE=Contag;33946506]are you on drugs? That is quite possibility the most naive statement ever After the paycheck is in, I'm sure it's part of the motivation, but there wouldn't be many (good) cops left if they weren't getting paid[/QUOTE] Pay for police officers especially here in Australia is shit for the job they do.

[QUOTE=Contag;33946466]I wonder what the suicide rate was.[/QUOTE] Doesn't seem like it'd be any higher than that of construction workers or teachers, or anything to be honest. It doesn't seem like an extremely stressful job (most of the time) and you can leave at any time, unlike the Army, in which desertion is (theoretically) punishable by death.

Wow, my county got a mention. Sad this isn't new, it happens alot here. It's always in the hoods, uncle lived in one.

now let's see the number of civilians killed in police brutality.

good [video=youtube;SofBrp4U7JM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SofBrp4U7JM[/video]

[QUOTE=notxmania;33951499]good [video=youtube;SofBrp4U7JM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SofBrp4U7JM[/video][/QUOTE] I hope the police never defend you.

Well, if you cut your state's police force, and there is higher unemployment from the poor economy, no shit there's going to be more crime and more deaths. If i recall, in camden NJ they wouldn't respond to robberies, they would write it down and check on you later. rest in peace.

[QUOTE=Master Kief-117;33946471]Let's take a minute to actually appreciate the ones that wear the uniform who do good. The ones who put their lives on the line every day to protect the innocent. The ones that keep the peace. [/QUOTE] Not to rain on your parade, im sure that there are plenty of police officers who do good out in the street, but none of them stand up to their fellow officers and boss's like they should. The few that do go against the blue code of silence are ridiculed and promptly fired. Its a systemic problem.

[QUOTE=notxmania;33951499]good [video=youtube;SofBrp4U7JM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SofBrp4U7JM[/video][/QUOTE] So hardcore... I want to be like you when I grow up

[QUOTE=Contag;33946506]are you on drugs? That is quite possibility the most naive statement ever After the paycheck is in, I'm sure it's part of the motivation, but there wouldn't be many (good) cops left if they weren't getting paid[/QUOTE] When I was a volunteer firefighter I was paid a mere 10 dollars a CALL to respond. Not per hour. Not per day. Per call...and each call could be weeks in between. There are many departments I know that get ZERO money to respond. Honestly, I just took that 10 dollars and put it into my gas tank to pay for the gas it took me to get to station / the scene. So I never really saw any of it. Yet, I would run into a burning building to save you or your family just as much as the paid professionals. ...and so would any volunteer FF / EMS.

[QUOTE=stupid10er;33951421]now let's see the number of civilians killed in police brutality.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread790710/pg1[/url] Thats all i could find. Obviously the police arent releasing the numbers but are more than happy to play victim. I just hope the majority of the dead officers were killed while trying to murder innocents themselves.

[QUOTE=notxmania;33951499]good [video=youtube;SofBrp4U7JM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SofBrp4U7JM[/video][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=semite;33946296][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B0Oens2HUo[/media][/QUOTE] Can you guys teach me how to be such [b]EDGY[/B] mother fuckers such as yourselves.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;33952636]but none of them stand up to their fellow officers and boss's like they should. The few that do go against the blue code of silence are ridiculed and promptly fired. Its a systemic problem.[/QUOTE] Is that a fact or are you just making a baseless assumption? I would like some proof of this that you seem to speak of so diligently like it's a known fact. You ever hear about the ticket fixing scandal a few months back with the NYPD? Dozens of corrupt officers bit the dust on that one. Their fellow officers brought them to justice after a sting operation.

[QUOTE=notxmania;33951499]good [video=youtube;SofBrp4U7JM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SofBrp4U7JM[/video][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=semite;33946296][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B0Oens2HUo[/media][/QUOTE] No. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW1Nff6jgjo[/media]

This thread is really sad, I have talked to a cop who lives on my street. He is 54 and is paid poorly. He drives an old caprice cause the city doesn't let him take his cop car home. He is payed per ticket. Every little ticket he gives out gets him maybe 50 dollars. Sometimes cops get 100 per arrest, but it's 50. He dislikes his job, but wants to serve his county and keep his city safe. mania and semite, you guys make me sick to the stomach. I'm gonna be in the police academy soon, and I didn't join cause of games, but to keep this city safe. Besides, I need something to help me before I join the cameraman career in Hollywood.

[QUOTE=Contag;33946704]Because volunteer police would attract all the worst. If I was a criminal you could bet your ass I'd be volunteering as a cop![/QUOTE] They do background checks. I had to get a full state and federal background check before I could even join my fire station. I imagine they'd do the same for volunteer police.

SO Police are not standard issue body armor? THat sucks, its fucking expensive

[QUOTE=Rocko's;33964346]This thread is really sad, I have talked to a cop who lives on my street. He is 54 and is paid poorly. He drives an old caprice cause the city doesn't let him take his cop car home. He is payed per ticket. Every little ticket he gives out gets him maybe 50 dollars. Sometimes cops get 100 per arrest, but it's 50. He dislikes his job, but wants to serve his county and keep his city safe. mania and semite, you guys make me sick to the stomach. I'm gonna be in the police academy soon, and I didn't join cause of games, but to keep this city safe. Besides, I need something to help me before I join the cameraman career in Hollywood.[/QUOTE] Being a policeman's not going to qualify you for being a cameraman at all. if that's what you actually want to do with your life, do that and don't do a profession that takes 100% of you to do right.

[QUOTE=DarkZero135;33991131]SO Police are not standard issue body armor? THat sucks, its fucking expensive[/QUOTE] Actually, they are body armor. Why do you think they're so heavy?

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;33991754]Actually, they are body armor. Why do you think they're so heavy?[/QUOTE] Body armor isn't even that heavy. The military armor with the ballistics plate (IBA) weighs around 15 pounds, so I can't imagine the police armor with no strike plate to weigh considerably less. Regardless, when wearing it as a vest, you barely notice it. It's more hot than it is heavy. Doesn't really even reduce mobility that much either.

[QUOTE=Rocko's;33964346]This thread is really sad, I have talked to a cop who lives on my street. He is 54 and is paid poorly. He drives an old caprice cause the city doesn't let him take his cop car home. [B]He is payed per ticket. Every little ticket he gives out gets him maybe 50 dollars[/B]. Sometimes cops get 100 per arrest, but it's 50. He dislikes his job, but wants to serve his county and keep his city safe. mania and semite, you guys make me sick to the stomach. I'm gonna be in the police academy soon, and I didn't join cause of games, but to keep this city safe. Besides, I need something to help me before I join the cameraman career in Hollywood.[/QUOTE] nothin wrong with this system nope why yes officer i do believe i was: - speeding - resisting arrest - in possession of narcotics - a minority - "disturbing the peace" oh sorry you need some extra cash? hey don't worry just book me on some more bullshit and i'll pay the bill. not only do your tax dollars pay for your local police department, your tickets do too! why the fuck are they paying him based on how many tickets he gives out, and how many arrests he makes? you wonder why cops are always charging people with utter horse shit like "resisting arrest" for twitching too long while being tasered, maybe if cops weren't given a monetary incentive to fucking convict people we'd have a better police force.

3 officers abused their power to the point where an innocent person died. 173 died protecting you and your country. Crunch the numbers, cops are good.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;33947326]I don't see how that's any more likely than an arsonist volunteering to be a firefighter.[/QUOTE] Which happens fairly often? [editline]2nd January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=-n3o-;33947386]Pay for police officers especially here in Australia is shit for the job they do.[/QUOTE] 60,000 starting salary is pretty decent considering the relative amount of training. If this was the States where almost every encounter is one that might end in their death, I'd be a bit more concerned. [editline]2nd January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=HkSniper;33952678]When I was a volunteer firefighter I was paid a mere 10 dollars a CALL to respond. Not per hour. Not per day. Per call...and each call could be weeks in between. There are many departments I know that get ZERO money to respond. Honestly, I just took that 10 dollars and put it into my gas tank to pay for the gas it took me to get to station / the scene. So I never really saw any of it. Yet, I would run into a burning building to save you or your family just as much as the paid professionals. ...and so would any volunteer FF / EMS.[/QUOTE] FF / EMS / Allied Health / Pro Bono legal aid etc. are quite different from policing [editline]2nd January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=HolyCrusade;33947078]As stated above, the United Kingdom has a volunteer police force and there are few problems associated with them. Give them comparatively fewer responsibilities and less authority, and you can solve financial problems and assign the paid police force to more important duties.[/QUOTE] Well, yes, community policing like that would be great for volunteers. How much authority can you abuse when you can only issue parking tickets, for instance? [editline]2nd January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Master Kief-117;33990834]They do background checks. I had to get a full state and federal background check before I could even join my fire station. I imagine they'd do the same for volunteer police.[/QUOTE] Background checks aren't exactly foolproof. Hell, a few thousand people in the US State Department had various levels of security clearances, and it turned out they diploma mill degrees

[QUOTE=Contag;33996433] Well, yes, community policing like that would be great for volunteers. How much authority can you abuse when you can only issue parking tickets, for instance? [/QUOTE] Do you actually know what an volunteer police in UK are allowed to do, or are you just taking guesses?

[QUOTE=Swebonny;33996629]Do you actually know what an volunteer police in UK are allowed to do, or are you just taking guesses?[/QUOTE] Yes, specials, or 'special constables' are engaged in a variety of practices. They are operate under the 'community policing' rubric of activities, like teaching crime prevention advice or outreach. Sometimes they will be required for things like soccer matches and basic patrols. Curiously enough, the British system of special constables takes some origin from the parish constabulary system, and virtually of those were unpaid positions. Of course policing was a bit shit back then as well. [editline]2nd January 2012[/editline] Oh, there's also some offloading of administrative duties to volunteers who don't become specials in certain constabularies, though I'm not sure which ones do that now.

I do not think you understood my point. My point is that a majority of the people who do this line of work (Public safety - Fire, EMS, Police) do not do it for the money. The pay is not as great as, for some reason, a majority of you seem to think. Also, who ever brought up that an officer is paid by arrest, ticket, etc, is either being given misinformation or is just trying to stir shit - because that is completely false. [editline]1st January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mattk50;33952680][url]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread790710/pg1[/url] Thats all i could find. Obviously the police arent releasing the numbers but are more than happy to play victim. I just hope the majority of the dead officers were killed while trying to murder innocents themselves.[/QUOTE] [quote]Deputy Sheriff Suzanne Hopper was shot and killed after responding to a call of a window being shot out at a trailer park in Enon. While conducting a preliminary investigation, Deputy Hopper observed a footprint and took out a camera to photograph it. As she was taking photographs, a male opened the door to his trailer and fired one shot at Deputy Hopper with a shotgun, killing her. [/quote] [quote]Detectives Roger Castillo and Amanda Haworth were shot and killed while serving a felony warrant on a man wanted for murder. The detectives, along with two other members of a regional task force, had gone to a home near the intersection of NW Seventh Avenue and 69th Street. Upon making contact with an occupant of the home, someone inside immediately opened fire, striking Detective Castillo and Detective Haworth. Another detective on the scene returned fire and killed the suspect. [/quote] [quote]Colonel Greg Malloy was shot and killed in Holmes County while assisting local law enforcement agencies track a man wanted for murdering his parents. A hunter in the area had called 911 after encountering the suspect in a wooded area and exchanging shots with him. Colonel Malloy, who was a canine handler at the Holmes Correctional Facility, was requested to track the suspect. Upon nearing the suspect's location, shots were exchanged and Colonel Malloy and the suspect were both killed. A second canine officer suffered a graze wound during the shootout. [/quote] [quote]Multiple officers were investigating a carjacking and kidnapping incident when one officer stopped a vehicle owned by a relative of the carjacking suspect. The suspect exited the vehicle and shot and wounded the officer twice before fleeing on foot. Officer Christian had just responded to the area when he encountered the suspect. The suspect shot and killed Officer Christian through the window of his patrol vehicle. The suspect fled the scene and remained at large until he was apprehended three days later. [/quote] [quote]Investigator Warren Lewis was shot and killed while serving a murder warrant with the Eastern North Carolina Fugitive Task Force at approximately 7:00 pm. [/quote] [quote] Police Officer Jeremy Henwood was shot and fatally wounded while stopped at a traffic light in an unprovoked attack. Several minutes earlier the subject had randomly approached a customer getting into a car at a local fast food restaurant and shot him in the face with a shotgun. Moments after fleeing the scene, the vehicle was observed by a gang unit officer from a neighboring city driving at a high rate of speed on I-8. The officer, who was unaware of the shooting, gave chase briefly before the pursuit was called off due to high speeds. [/quote] All from the Officer Down Memorial page. I just skimmed through randomly picking out officers and quoting the stories directly. Look at all these MONSTERS oppressing the innocent people! Hurr-Durr! Oh, wait. Funny. I do not see ANY mention of officers being killed doing something wrong. All of it was when they were just trying to do their job or by completely unprovoked attacks...how straaaaaange... I mean, police doing their job?! I thought they just oppressed people for no reason! Oh, right. That's just what a couple hipsters who think they are cool on the internet keep saying. Man, almost got into my mind as truth there... Do yourself a favor and look at how many officers were killed "trying to murder innocents." The whole list is there on the Officer Down page along with the story of what happened. Tell me how many you find. Your statement is insensitive and moronic. Do yourself a favor and just stop.

[quote]The officer, who was unaware of the shooting, gave chase briefly before the pursuit was called off due to high speeds.[/quote] This is why I don't believe you should call off a chase.

[QUOTE=stupid10er;33951421]now let's see the number of civilians killed in police brutality.[/QUOTE] You see that bit of your name, yeah the first word? Yeah it really fits. Seriously, fuck off, you're scum, this is a thread to mourn the losses of the many who cared to protect the country. Your almost as bad as PETA, take your bullshit hatred for police to some other thread. Also not all FF or EMS are volunteer. And they actually do a completely different job than police. A volunteer police force doing what all police do would be 100% stupid. EMS and FF do completely different fields of work to police, they are just in the public defender spectrum still. It's like an apple, orange and lemon. They are all fruits, but completely different.