Teen Marijuana Use Shows No Effect On Brain Tissue, Unlike Alcohol, Study Finds - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Vasili;38922366]Some of us don't need to escape from reality.[/QUOTE] What even is the point of this post? It would be like me telling people who play video games that they only do it to escape reality. Like seriously what a condescending post. Just on a note I don't do any drugs. It's my personal preference to be sober at all times. I just don't see how people like you can go and ridicule people who do things to take the edge off of life. In the end we all do something to lessen the harshness of reality, even if it isn't drugs.

[QUOTE=Crhem van der B;38922063]Or just abstain from both marijuana and alcohol, or any drugs for that matter. Best solution.[/QUOTE] I hope you don't consume sugar or caffeine, those are some pretty hardcore abused substances

[QUOTE=Scot;38923200]Weed isn't a hallucinogen lol.[/QUOTE] That is incorrect. [Quote=Wikipedia]While many psychoactive drugs clearly fall into the category of either stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogen, cannabis exhibits a mix of all properties, perhaps leaning the most towards hallucinogenic or psychedelic properties, though with other effects quite pronounced as well.[/quote]

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;38927142]It's interesting how in the thread a while back about how marijuana can lower IQ, people were going "take that stoners pot isn't a miracle drug hah!" while now in this thread everyone's all "hmmm there are some conflicting studies idk this one could be shoddy too... every drug has it's downsides you have to be careful." what's with the two-facedness?[/QUOTE] welcome to SH.

[QUOTE=Paramud;38926686]You sound like every hippy I've ever met.[/QUOTE] chill out

[QUOTE=gnome;38927152]Congratulations, you are a square.[/QUOTE] Boy someone sure is being pretty fucking judgemental aren't they? You don't [B]need[/B] drugs to have fun, saying you do in any degree is flat out stupid. I've been on a fair few nights out with friends perfectly sober, and still found it great fun. As long as you stop giving a shit, rather than letting the drugs do that for you, it can still be fun. And if your friends aren't tools, they won't give a shit that you aren't drunk or high. Though the few times I've managed to stand the taste of most alcohol to actually get drunk, yes, it is also fun. A slightly different kind of fun where you tend to forget things (:v:), but fun. Both work. Insulting people for not doing/ doing either is fucking dumb. But I can't help but feel your posts are basically implying "you aren't fun if you don't do drugs. DO DRUGS YOU COCKS!" Starpluck, the way you are wording them is horrendous.

[QUOTE=Bobie;38927831]chill out[/QUOTE] I wasn't angry.

i need drugs to enjoy life if you think thats sad then ok i dont care but how about i do drugs and you dont do them that way we are both happy also stop arresting me

i enjoy marijuana

[QUOTE=hexpunK;38927976] You don't [B]need[/B] drugs to have fun [/QUOTE] [B]Nobody has fucking said this.[/B]

[QUOTE=soccerskyman;38928184][B]Nobody has fucking said this.[/B][/QUOTE] People have sure as hell implied it. You don't need to say something explicitly to present an idea.

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;38927300]I hope you don't consume sugar or caffeine, those are some pretty hardcore abused substances[/QUOTE]Or any type of medication.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;38928194]People have sure as hell implied it. You don't need to say something explicitly to present an idea.[/QUOTE] Nobody has implied it either.

watch out for dirty weed needles

[QUOTE=hexpunK;38928194]People have sure as hell implied it. You don't need to say something explicitly to present an idea.[/QUOTE] ok well noone means it. it's not even the point AT ALL, the point is some of us WANT To have drugs to have fun or expand our minds or blah blah blah, and people are keeping us from doing that due to their own ignorance/need to control others

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;38928218]ok well noone means it. it's not even the point AT ALL, the point is some of us WANT To have drugs to have fun or expand our minds or blah blah blah, and people are keeping us from doing that due to their own ignorance/need to control others[/QUOTE] And I get that. I really do. I have never said people can't enjoy them. But when people who are using them insult people who don't want to use them, even as a joke, do you really think that makes your side look better? That's all I was saying, the way some people are wording their posts makes me think they are looking down on people not using them.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;38928255]And I get that. I really do. I have never said people can't enjoy them. But when people who are using them insult people who don't want to use them, even as a joke, do you really think that makes your side look better? That's all I was saying, the way some people are wording their posts makes me think they are looking down on people not using them.[/QUOTE] fair enough. i got nothing against people that don't want to do drugs, like all things it's to each his own (although i personally think people should at least TRY em out, cause alot of them literally do make you think in ways you'd never expect and it can be a real eye opening experience) but yeah, the people i got a problem with are the ones who think noone should be allowed drugs just cause THEY think they're bad

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;38928307]fair enough. i got nothing against people that don't want to do drugs, like all things it's to each his own (although i personally think people should at least TRY em out, cause alot of them literally do make you think in ways you'd never expect and it can be a real eye opening experience) but yeah, the people i got a problem with are the ones who think noone should be allowed drugs just cause THEY think they're bad[/QUOTE] Yeah, that mindset isn't really productive. If I actually felt like it when around them, trying certain drugs could be kinda fun. Just to see their effects at least once in my life. Unfortunately I don't really hang around people who use drugs, and the last time they tried making pot brownies, they kinda fucked it up somehow so nothing came of it :v:

[QUOTE=proch;38923997]If you need Alcohol or drugs to have fun at all in your youth there's something seriously wrong with you.[/QUOTE] Aww, it looks like your D.A.R.E. officer would be proud! Sure, it's not the only way to have fun, but smoking marijuana or having a drink with friends every now and again isn't that bad. It can be a ton of fun; especially LAN matches when everyone is completely stoned.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;38922518]The majority of people do not drink or smoke weed with the sole purpose of escaping reality, some just like to have fun and party. Like I genuinely feel that most of the hate towards alcohol on Facepunch is not out of "choice to abstain" despite their attempts to act morally superior, but its because most don't even have access to it (no one invites them to parties) and spend their Friday nights browsing FP instead[/QUOTE] Speak for yourself? I've been offered to smoke up by my friends but I always decline. As for alcohol, maybe not everyone is itching to get wasted? You don't need drugs or alcohol to enjoy yourself.

[QUOTE=ashxu;38929624]Speak for yourself? I've been offered to smoke up by my friends but I always decline. You don't need drugs or alchohol to enjoy yourself.[/QUOTE] Why is it implied that drug users only use drugs because it's the only way they can find enjoyment? This is so fucking retarded my mind can't wrap itself around that. I recreationally smoke, but it's not the only thing I find enjoyment out of. I also love photography, working on cars, gaming, and reading. I do things because I enjoy them, not because I need them. The same applies with smoking or drinking.

[QUOTE=ashxu;38929624]Speak for yourself? I've been offered to smoke up by my friends but I always decline. As for alcohol, maybe not everyone is itching to get wasted? You don't need drugs or alcohol to enjoy yourself.[/QUOTE] OK cool, I never said you couldn't have fun without alcohol or weed. My problem is when idiots say alcohol use is nothing more than an "escape for reality" when that clearly indicates lack of experience to even judge on such a matter. And you're doing the same shit as every one else; drinking alcohol is not synonymous with "getting wasted" You have to be pretty irresponsbile and lack self-control to get totally wasted.

[QUOTE=Bredirish123;38929664]Why is it implied that drug users only use drugs because it's the only way they can find enjoyment? This is so fucking retarded my mind can't wrap itself around that. I recreationally smoke, but it's not the only thing I find enjoyment out of. I also love photography, working on cars, gaming, and reading. I do things because I enjoy them, not because I need them. The same applies with smoking or drinking.[/QUOTE] Where did I imply that? I'm merely saying that not everyone that doesn't do drugs/alchohol is some "guy with no friends and browses FP all day".

I remember seeing a study showing marijuana use has negative effects on teen brains, so i stopped smoking it and if i do it's a little bit once a week.

[QUOTE=ashxu;38929704]Where did I imply that? I'm merely saying that not everyone that doesn't do drugs/alchohol is some "guy with no friends and browses FP all day".[/QUOTE] "You don't need drugs or alcohol to enjoy yourself." That has so much implied in it, it might as well have neon signs highlighting key words. It seems that a lot of the people here who are anti-alcohol/weed have no experience in the matter. I find that anyone who hasn't properly experienced something shouldn't have an opinion on it. We take this stance on everything else in our daily lives; this topic should be no different. I would have to say the majority of FPers here who are strictly against it are at a high school age who only see the dipshits in their school drinking, partying, and smoking weed so they have this weird method of boosting their ego by saying, "I'm too cool for drugs!"

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;38927142]It's interesting how in the thread a while back about how marijuana can lower IQ, people were going "take that stoners pot isn't a miracle drug hah!" while now in this thread everyone's all "hmmm there are some conflicting studies idk this one could be shoddy too... every drug has it's downsides you have to be careful." what's with the two-facedness?[/QUOTE] You must be new here, allow me to take your coat. Facepunch mentality has always been jump on the bandwagon till proven otherwise.

And btw I just came back from clubbing, I drank 5+ shots of Vodka, multiple jagermeisters, bullfrogs and rum - I felt fucking buzzed/great but I was able to contain myself. No I wasn't wasted, nor am I addicted to alcohol; I didn't drink to "escape from reality". I drank because it amplifies my partying mood, not to satiate some addiction. Unless you actually drink alcohol you shouldn't be making sweeping judgements on its effects.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;38929857]And btw I just came back from clubbing, I drank 5+ shots of Vodka, jagermeister and bullfrog - I felt fucking buzzed/great but I was able to contain myself. No I wasn't wasted, nor am I addicted.I didn't drink to "escape from reality" I drank because it amplifies my partying mood, not to satiate some addiction. Unless you actually drink alcohol you shouldn't be making sweeping judgements on its effects.[/QUOTE] This entirely. I have a family with a background of alcoholics, so when I moved to Crete, Greece my parents were worried about how I'd react to having such easy access to parties/bars/general drinking. When I did get here though I found that I drink really well in moderation. Sure, like anyone else I've had my times where I drank a little too much but I learned from it. I find that drinking just enhances social experiences when you're responsible with it. A lot of people tend to say that alcohol takes away your ability to rationally think or make decisions, but in my case I knew when to stop; I understood not to do stupid shit. The same applies with marijuana. People get the idea that recreational users are burnouts who just laze about all day smoking herb and avoiding anything productive. Well, I manage to keep a 4.0GPA and still can smoke when I'd like.

[QUOTE=Bredirish123;38929924]This entirely. I have a family with a background of alcoholics, so when I moved to Crete, Greece my parents were worried about how I'd react to having such easy access to parties/bars/general drinking. When I did get here though I found that I drink really well in moderation. Sure, like anyone else I've had my times where I drank a little too much but I learned from it. I find that drinking just enhances social experiences when you're responsible with it. A lot of people tend to say that alcohol takes away your ability to rationally think or make decisions, but in my case I knew when to stop; I understood not to do stupid shit. The same applies with marijuana. People get the idea that recreational users are burnouts who just laze about all day smoking herb and avoiding anything productive. Well, I manage to keep a 4.0GPA and still can smoke when I'd like.[/QUOTE] People are forgetting that some people like to drink it at parties because it makes them feel good in the sense they are more friendly, sociable, empathic and have more confidence than they normally would. You aren't held back by unnecessary fears of judgement either, thus increasing your social capacity (as long as you drink responsibly) But no apparently drinking alcohol-blank is always interchangeable with getting fucked up/wasted, feeding an unstoppable addiction and just an excuse to escape from reality - because apparently the people who do not drink and decide to listen to DARE's claims instead are a more accurate source when it comes to assessing alcohol use.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;38929857]And btw I just came back from clubbing, I drank 5+ shots of Vodka, multiple jagermeisters, bullfrogs and rum - I felt fucking buzzed/great but I was able to contain myself. No I wasn't wasted, nor am I addicted to alcohol; I didn't drink to "escape from reality". I drank because it amplifies my partying mood, not to satiate some addiction. Unless you actually drink alcohol you shouldn't be making sweeping judgements on its effects.[/QUOTE] pui....