Teen Marijuana Use Shows No Effect On Brain Tissue, Unlike Alcohol, Study Finds - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;38930032]pui....[/QUOTE] There's a neat concept called time.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;38930032]pui....[/QUOTE] I also think that PUI only applies if you're acting like a dipshit. There have been multiple times where I've been completely stoned or fairly buzzed and able to post like a normal individual.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;38930065]There's a neat concept called time.[/QUOTE] u must take ages to just come back from clubbing then... im just kidding anyway your first post in this thread is pretty much spot on, before i started drinking or smoking i was all thinking i was hardcore straight edge and everyone else were morons for taking mind altering substances, but in reality it was just cause i never had them or the opportunity

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;38930108] im just kidding anyway your first post in this thread is pretty much spot on, before i started drinking or smoking i was all thinking i was hardcore straight edge and everyone else were morons for taking mind altering substances, but in reality it was just cause i never had them or the opportunity[/QUOTE]This is pretty much how everyone felt at first when they were younger tbh.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;38930137]This is pretty much how everyone felt at first when they were younger tbh.[/QUOTE] luckily we all get over being 15 eventually and realize beer isn't even that bad

[QUOTE=Starpluck;38930137]This is pretty much how everyone felt at first when they were younger tbh.[/QUOTE] I had the same ideas a few years ago. I thought only losers smoked herb and drank. What I discovered though is that young kids are always going to find enjoyment in cultural taboos because it makes them "c00l" and unique. I'm no cooler by judging it and calling them dumb; especially since things like drinking or smoking marijuana are ridiculous taboos. So one day I got with friends, lit up a bowl and had one of the most fantastic experiences of my life because I came to the realization that I need to experience things properly before having a strong opinion.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;38930184]luckily we all get over being 15 eventually and realize beer isn't even that bad[/QUOTE] I was straight edge up until 12 when I realized that, no, one bong hit isn't going to make your brain melt out of your ears. At that point I was open-minded to drugs, but didn't touch them until 15.

[QUOTE=ashxu;38929624]Speak for yourself? I've been offered to smoke up by my friends but I always decline. As for alcohol, maybe not everyone is itching to get wasted? You don't need drugs or alcohol to enjoy yourself.[/QUOTE] i drink coffee in moderation the same way a person would drink alcohol in moderation - avoid the negative effects: in this case, caffeine crashing there's nothing wrong with having a glass of beer or a fruity vodka every now and then

[QUOTE=soccerskyman;38930404]I was straight edge up until 12 when I realized that, no, one bong hit isn't going to make your brain melt out of your ears. At that point I was open-minded to drugs, but didn't touch them until 15.[/QUOTE] i was straight edge until 15 until one of my mates asked if i wanted to get stoned with him during lunchbreak and i never looked back

[QUOTE=Starpluck;38929989]People are forgetting that some people like to drink it at parties because it makes them feel good in the sense they are more friendly, sociable, empathic and have more confidence than they normally would. You aren't held back by unnecessary fears of judgement either, thus increasing your social capacity (as long as you drink responsibly) But no apparently drinking alcohol-blank is always interchangeable with getting fucked up/wasted, feeding an unstoppable addiction and just an excuse to escape from reality - because apparently the people who do not drink and decide to listen to DARE's claims instead are a more accurate source when it comes to assessing alcohol use.[/QUOTE] Freudian slip? I think 1 person said "abstain from both" and another said "you don't need to escape from reality" and you're ranting about how people are attacking you over an addiction that only you mentioned. [editline]21st December 2012[/editline] Also you must have superhuman metabolism or you didn't "just" get back from clubbing.

[QUOTE=King Tiger;38930502]Freudian slip? I think 1 person said "abstain from both" and another said "you don't need to escape from reality" and you're ranting about how people are attacking you over an addiction that only you mentioned. [editline]21st December 2012[/editline] Also you must have superhuman metabolism or you didn't "just" get back from clubbing.[/QUOTE] most of the thread has been an argument about how some people think using drugs make it so you "need" substances or others high roading about how they don't use substances. If "Needing" drugs doesn't count as addiction, I dunno what does. So, he's not miss posting about anything. And haven't you ever stopped drinking just before the end of a night and got home somewhat sober? Wait, it's you, you just PUI all the time anyways so it's likely you don't know

[QUOTE=King Tiger;38930502]Freudian slip? I think 1 person said "abstain from both" and another said "you don't need to escape from reality" and you're ranting about how people are attacking you over an addiction that only you mentioned. [editline]21st December 2012[/editline] Also you must have superhuman metabolism or you didn't "just" get back from clubbing.[/QUOTE] Meh, some people can type and shit fine when they're absolutely hammered.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;38930559]most of the thread has been an argument about how some people think using drugs make it so you "need" substances or others high roading about how they don't use substances. If "Needing" drugs doesn't count as addiction, I dunno what does. So, he's not miss posting about anything. And haven't you ever stopped drinking just before the end of a night and got home somewhat sober? Wait, it's you, you just PUI all the time anyways so it's likely you don't know[/QUOTE] Not really. He's just raging over two comments. Most every other post was stating how you don't need drugs to have fun but they're fine to use.

[QUOTE=King Tiger;38930608]Not really. He's just raging over two comments. Most every other post was stating how you don't need drugs to have fun but they're fine to use.[/QUOTE] did you read the same thread as me most posts have been in response to multiple posts saying these things, so yeah, the thread isn't all one sided but he's not raging about two comments.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;38930689]did you read the same thread as me most posts have been in response to multiple posts saying these things, so yeah, the thread isn't all one sided but he's not raging about two comments.[/QUOTE] I just reread the thread and I could not find a single other than those two (besides obvious joke/troll/spam posts, one of which you seemed to take seriously) that indicates an attack on people who like to use drugs or alcohol. If you find one, please point it out to me. And there were only one or two posts even referencing the aforementioned posts.

[QUOTE=King Tiger;38930743]I just reread the thread and I could not find a single other than those two (besides obvious joke/troll/spam posts, one of which you seemed to take seriously) that indicates an attack on people who like to use drugs or alcohol. If you find one, please point it out to me. And there were only one or two posts even referencing the aforementioned posts.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Crhem van der B;38922063]Or just abstain from both marijuana and alcohol, or any drugs for that matter. Best solution.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Vasili;38922366]Some of us don't need to escape from reality.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=gokiyono;38922747]Could also be because some of us knows the consequences of it. [sp]You'll learn when you almost loose a family member thanks to another person drinking.[/sp][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=proch;38923997]If you need Alcohol or drugs to have fun at all in your youth there's something seriously wrong with you.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Paramud;38926686]You sound like every hippy I've ever met.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=hexpunK;38927976]Boy someone sure is being pretty fucking judgemental aren't they? You don't [B]need[/B] drugs to have fun, saying you do in any degree is flat out stupid. I've been on a fair few nights out with friends perfectly sober, and still found it great fun. As long as you stop giving a shit, rather than letting the drugs do that for you, it can still be fun. And if your friends aren't tools, they won't give a shit that you aren't drunk or high. Though the few times I've managed to stand the taste of most alcohol to actually get drunk, yes, it is also fun. A slightly different kind of fun where you tend to forget things (:v:), but fun. Both work. Insulting people for not doing/ doing either is fucking dumb. But I can't help but feel your posts are basically implying "you aren't fun if you don't do drugs. DO DRUGS YOU COCKS!" Starpluck, the way you are wording them is horrendous.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ashxu;38929624]Speak for yourself? I've been offered to smoke up by my friends but I always decline. As for alcohol, maybe not everyone is itching to get wasted? You don't need drugs or alcohol to enjoy yourself.[/QUOTE] Yeah, whatever.

Lol The first two are the posts I was talking about. The third is some babby crying over an irrelevant anecdote and I didn't consider it worth mentioning, but fine, you get that one. The fourth, sixth, and last posts all use the word [b]need[/b]. They are not attacking those who enjoy consuming drugs or alcohol, but simply stating that it is not necessary to use it in order to enjoy oneself. If you somehow see this as an attack, please explain your rationale. The fifth one is an obvious troll post that you bit on. The poster even acknowledged that it was a joke after the fact. But yeah, if you want to consider a whopping three posts, two of which got showered in dumb ratings and negative replies, as evidence of some Facepunch-conspiracy against alcohol and marijuana use (Of all forums, you believe there would ever be a push against drugs on Facepunch? Seriously?) then fine. If living in such a delusion gives you peace, then all power to you.

[QUOTE=King Tiger;38930795]Lol The first two are the posts I was talking about. The third is some babby crying over an irrelevant anecdote and I didn't consider it worth mentioning, but fine, you get that one. The fourth, sixth, and last posts all use the word [b]need[/b]. They are not attacking those who enjoy consuming drugs or alcohol, but simply stating that it is not necessary to use it in order to enjoy oneself. If you somehow see this as an attack, please explain your rationale. The fifth one is an obvious troll post that you bit on. The poster even acknowledged that it was a joke after the fact. But yeah, if you want to consider a whopping three posts, two of which got showered in dumb rating and negative replies, as evidence of some Facepunch-conspiracy against alcohol and marijuana use (Of all forums you believe there would ever be a push against drugs on Facepunch? Seriously?) then fine. If living in such a delusion give you peace, then all power to you.[/QUOTE] The point is the people saying need are acting(in my opinion and others) that once you do drugs you practically need them to enjoy yourself. Paramud always posts shit about drugs so I don't take his post as joking nor trolling, just what he does. Which I find objectionable. There's no conspiracy. There's no hivemind. I'm not pretending that FP has a decided mind about something one way or the other(unlike you) due to how many people here actually do disdain drugs and alcohol as well as their users and there's many who imbibe and partake, but there's no reason to call a hivemind in either direction.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;38930824]The point is the people saying need are acting(in my opinion and others) that once you do drugs you practically need them to enjoy yourself.[/quote] Your opinion is ridiculous. Nowhere was that sentiment postulated. You seem to have made it up. Those posters were clearly talking about the ability to enjoy oneself without drugs or alcohol. Not one of them ever mentioned or even insinuated addiction in any way. If you disagree, please explain how they allude to addiction. [quote]Paramud always posts shit about drugs so I don't take his post as joking nor trolling, just what he does. Which I find objectionable.[/quote] This is no excuse to reply to an obvious troll post. [quote]There's no conspiracy. There's no hivemind. I'm not pretending that FP has a decided mind about something one way or the other(unlike you) due to how many people here actually do disdain drugs and alcohol as well as their users and there's many who imbibe and partake, but there's no reason to call a hivemind in either direction.[/QUOTE] I don't think there's a conspiracy either, or that Facepunch acts as a single-minded conglomerate. However, it would be foolish to dismiss its pro-drug culture. However, Starpluck's demeanor was extremely defensive, which indicated to me that he believed he was under attack from more than two or three people and a troll. [quote](unlike you)[/quote] What is this?

if you dont understand what people insinuate when they come into threads about drugs going "YOU DONT NEEEED DRUGS TO HAVE FUN" then you have no understanding of the stigma against drugs and drug users

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;38930924]if you dont understand what people insinuate when they come into threads about drugs going "YOU DONT NEEEED DRUGS TO HAVE FUN" then you have no understanding of the stigma against drugs and drug users[/QUOTE] Except nobody did that. The three posts using the word "need" were all in response to a previous post that insulted those who choose not to use drugs. Starpluck said: [QUOTE=Starpluck;38922518]Everyone rating this agree [i](to abstain from drugs and alcohol)[/i] has never seen a day of sunshine in their life.[/quote] The response was: [QUOTE=proch;38923997]If you [b]need[/b] Alcohol or drugs to have fun at all in your youth there's something seriously wrong with you.[/QUOTE] gnome said: [QUOTE=gnome;38927152]Congratulations, you are a square. [i]To those who choose to abstain from drugs and alcohol[/i][/QUOTE] The response was: [QUOTE=hexpunK;38927976]You don't [B]need[/B] drugs to have fun, saying you do in any degree is flat out stupid.[/quote] Starpluck said: [QUOTE=Starpluck;38922518]Like I genuinely feel that most of the hate towards alcohol on Facepunch is not out of "choice to abstain" despite their attempts to act morally superior, but its because most don't even have access to it (no one invites them to parties) and spend their Friday nights browsing FP instead[/QUOTE] The response was: [QUOTE=ashxu;38929624]Speak for yourself? I've been offered to smoke up by my friends but I always decline. As for alcohol, maybe not everyone is itching to get wasted? You don't need drugs or alcohol to enjoy yourself.[/QUOTE] In all cases (the posts which HumanAbyss specified) someone attacked those who choose to abstain from using drugs or alcohol, and the response was that "you don't [b]need[/b] drugs or alcohol to have fun". Nobody came into the threat outright (except for Crhem van der B, who I disagree with) and said "lololol don't do drugs kids".

except noone ever said anyone NEEDS drugs to have fun, all starpluck said was that most morons that preach abstinence from drugs or the evils of drugs have never actually done them and just hate em cause of that. [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] noones attacking people that choose to abstain from drugs, we're attacking people that choose to preach abstinence, if you don't wanna do drugs FINE, shut up about it and don't lock us up or treat us like drug addict scum

[QUOTE=King Tiger;38930984]words[/QUOTE] Saying to a drug user "you don't need those to have fun" implies that you think they need them to have fun. See, the word, need was used to refer to something a person thinks about another persons desires and habbits, the context of this is pretty damn clear really.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;38930184]luckily we all get over being 15 eventually and realize beer isn't even that bad[/QUOTE] my parents would buy me alcohol for parties when I was 15 :v: It helped me learn to drink responsibly though because it never seemed like some badass thing to me or anything [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=King Tiger;38930502]Freudian slip? I think 1 person said "abstain from both" and another said "you don't need to escape from reality" and you're ranting about how people are attacking you over an addiction that only you mentioned. [editline]21st December 2012[/editline] Also you must have superhuman metabolism or you didn't "just" get back from clubbing.[/QUOTE] It takes me 1 hour + to get home from clubbing so he could've

[QUOTE=Stormcharger;38932446]my parents would buy me alcohol for parties when I was 15 :v: It helped me learn to drink responsibly though because it never seemed like some badass thing to me or anything [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] It takes me 1 hour + to get home from clubbing so he could've[/QUOTE] my parents didn't buy booze for me until i was 16!!! lol

[QUOTE=X-Neon;38927311]That is incorrect.[/QUOTE] except it's not classed as one. just because it exhibits properties doesn't make it a hallucinogen. people who hallucinate on weed are lightweights (or fakers). if that still doesn't convince you then I DONT KNOW MAN [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] i don't think the majority of FP has experienced a (underage) party. what else would a bunch of minors pent up in a house do except drugs(and related activities) and sex?

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;38931068]except noone ever said anyone NEEDS drugs to have fun, all starpluck said was that most morons that preach abstinence from drugs or the evils of drugs have never actually done them and just hate em cause of that.[/quote] Except that's not what he said at all. I will requote: [QUOTE=Starpluck;38922518]Everyone rating this agree has never seen a day of sunshine in their life.[/quote] He is at very least least saying that if you have never used drugs then you have never "seen a day of sunshine". Unless being anti-abstinence somehow makes you happy. It wasn't a very good post at all. [quote]noones attacking people that choose to abstain from drugs, we're attacking people that choose to preach abstinence, if you don't wanna do drugs FINE, shut up about it and don't lock us up or treat us like drug addict scum[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=gnome;38927152]Congratulations, you are a square.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=King Tiger;38940736]Except that's not what he said at all. I will requote: He is at very least least saying that if you have never used drugs then you have never "seen a day of sunshine". Unless being anti-abstinence somehow makes you happy. It wasn't a very good post at all.[/QUOTE] Holy christ man gnome's quote there was against someone who said a very anti drug sentiment. Do you always PUI or do you just not read well

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;38941143]Holy christ man gnome's quote there was against someone who said a very anti drug sentiment. Do you always PUI or do you just not read well[/QUOTE] The fact that he used the term "square" rather than "idiot" or "moron" leads me to believe he was referring to the fact that other poster abstained from using drugs.

i dont even care what anybody says weed will fuck the shit out of your short term memory