White Hat Hackers Would Have Their Devices Destroyed Under the TPP

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[QUOTE=Sobotnik;48887733]the point is that the existing treaties haven't seemingly resulted in the destruction of civil liberties as predicted.

in about five years time everybody will have forgotten this and won't care about it anymore, especially when people probably aren't going to be bothered reading the TPP when it comes out in about two or three weeks[/QUOTE]

the biggest issue isn't an instant "OHHHHHH MY FAMILY GOT ARRESTED FOR DOWNLOADING A BEATLES ALBUM!", at least not off the bat.

The issue is erosion of freedoms. Nothing will happen for a long time and people will say "I guess it wasn't that bad..." simply because the legal groundwork wasn't enforced immediately.

Let's say they tried to make an example of someone who downloaded a triple A game, or used a 3d printer to print a small plastic part for their car? Does this not allow them to do so? What about pharmaceutical drugs? A lot of R&D goes into them, but surely not so much that you need to jack the rates to unaffordable levels. TPP just makes it easier.

It's not going out with a bang, but a whimper, you could say.

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[QUOTE=Sobotnik;48889076]it's because it tangentially affects millennial westerners who get outraged because virtually all of the information they get on it isn't from actual economic journals or people who know international trade, but instead from selectively posted facepunch threads and memes

to be honest i wouldn't give much of a shit, but the intense circlejerk over how TPP is some sort of treaty that basically abolishes the internet and throws you in prison for burning a cd is utterly ludicrous and is based on some of the trashiest journalism that gets you up in arms

i genuinely believe that upon the TPP text becoming publicly available, that about 95% of the entire internet is going to read it for five minutes, get bored, and then close the tab

the treaty doesn't mean that's going to happen

you'll still be able to repair it yourself or take it to a mechanic, same with tractors and shit (idk where people are getting the idea that TPP bans this)

also the treaty means that american companies can't keep drugs exclusive for 12 years, it means that american companies are now only allowed to keep them for 5-8 years[/QUOTE]

So if the treaty allows corporations to do bad shit, we should accept it because why? Because "oh no they won't realistically enforce any of it!"?

They already can do and have done bad shit considering copyrights, like singling out random people to slap with ludicrous fines for minuscule offenses.

You may be complacent with that for some inane reason, but why should we be?

Stopping it from getting worse is no less important as stopping it now.

Just because the treaty has good parts in it doesn't make the parts things some inevitable cost now does it