• Pope Francis removes German 'bling bishop'.
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[QUOTE=Bradyns;44367904]This is something that frustrates me.. and once again.. the Pope Francis has drawn the line. I am truly [B]starting to[/B] like this man.[/QUOTE] ?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;44369864]If the Catholic Church keeps on the track Francis is driving on, I'm more likely to convert to my girlfriend's religion than not, now.[/QUOTE] But you can't convert to another religion based on what it does. [QUOTE]Capitalism, at least in America, stems from the Puritans in New England who believed getting rich was a sign God loved you and being poor was a sign you have signed. Because God would obviously bless those who were working hard. Money representing having worked hard, which in their eyes was one of the greatest virtues you could have. Over time, take away the religious context as society progresses and you get people who say having money is because I worked for it and the poor don't have money because they're lazy.[/QUOTE] max weber fuck yeah. Everyone should sticky this into every Francis post for anyone with doubts about what the church thinks: [url]http://www.vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html[/url] [url]http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/justpeace/documents/rc_pc_justpeace_doc_20060526_compendio-dott-soc_en.html[/url] The second is actually pretty interesting to read. [QUOTE]He's not opposed to gays either, though. It's pretty damn obvious to say that the leader of the Catholic church ain't super-down with the idea of dude-makeouts in God's house, but being like "Yeah dude-makeouts in other places are okay" is pretty fine. Whenever we have a hot topic like gay marriage on hand, people tend to forget that there's a middle-ground too, in this case "Gays are pretty okay I suppose but I'm not gonna give 'em god's blessing because my instruction manual tells me he'd not be super down with that". [/QUOTE] They don't abide by scripture only. [QUOTE]NPR last night had a segment on how because the Pope isn't from Europe and grew up in Argentina, he's anti-capitalist. [/QUOTE] Really? What a bunch of lamers. If anything, he's not against [I][B]capitalism*[/B][/I] *(private property of the means of production. No more no less.)
He didn't kick him out, he accepted his resignment.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;44384187]which, is a hell of a distortion of the original teachings.[/QUOTE] It's correct, i recently just learned about this in history class about the founding fathers ideas of America :)
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;44384187]which, is a hell of a distortion of the original teachings.[/QUOTE] Welcome to the United States of America
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;44370068]NPR last night had a segment on how because the Pope isn't from Europe and grew up in Argentina, he's anti-capitalist.[/QUOTE] if you're saying this as if it's not true you obviously know jack shit about argentinian history and its economy
Wait,what? Germany has a church tax? Any Germans here that can explain who is taxed, where the money goes and all that? Context alone it sounds like the government forces it's citizens to financially support religion(s)...
[QUOTE=H8Entitlement;44391946]Wait,what? Germany has a church tax? Any Germans here that can explain who is taxed, where the money goes and all that? Context alone it sounds like the government forces it's citizens to financially support religion(s)...[/QUOTE] Not German, but I can explain. In Germany you're compelled to declare your personal religion officially. This is because religious institutions are not allowed to take up collections (pass the tray around, fund raiser drives, the like). So, instead you pay your yearly dues to your faith in taxes. The money taken from the tax is then disbursed to the diocese and churches of that group. This straightens out a lot of potential corruption and makes the funding of religion in Germany a lot more transparent than in say, the US where millions if not billions of dollars invisibly go from pocket to church without being taxed once.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;44391845]if you're saying this as if it's not true you obviously know jack shit about argentinian history and its economy[/QUOTE] I'm not saying it's untrue, I'm saying that the radio obviously implied "not from Europe/USA" = anti-capitalist. They didn't take a look at what Francis has said or anything he's done. They associated him with anti-capitalism solely on the premise that he was from Argentina. [editline]29th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;44392129]Not German, but I can explain. In Germany you're compelled to declare your personal religion officially. This is because religious institutions are not allowed to take up collections (pass the tray around, fund raiser drives, the like). So, instead you pay your yearly dues to your faith in taxes. The money taken from the tax is then disbursed to the diocese and churches of that group. This straightens out a lot of potential corruption and makes the funding of religion in Germany a lot more transparent than in say, the US where millions if not billions of dollars invisibly go from pocket to church without being taxed once.[/QUOTE] That's an intriguing concept. Does the German government keep a slice of the money taken through the faith tax?
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