• Russia to ban US from using ISS beyond 2020 over Ukraine sanctions
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[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44800429]Ok, fuck you Putin. Spinless mother fucker can lay his "big" dick all over anything he wants, but banning us from the ISS over your own problems? That's the last straw.[/QUOTE] All Putin is doing is just putting up a show for his supporters, if he was serious about this threat he'd cancel ISS travels immediately. This won't affect the US at all, by 2020 the US will already have other means of reaching the ISS and this whole Russia clusterfuck going on will very likely have been forgotten by then and chances are he's counting on it. Putin's a smart motherfucker.
Erect a new wall in the ISS between the US and RUS halves.
there must be an awkward tension between the crew currently up there
The US can always launch a new space station using a trampoline.
[QUOTE=RocketSnail;44802058]there must be an awkward tension between the crew currently up there[/QUOTE] Doubt it, I bet they don't give a crap about politics up there. I think if the idea of politics even came into it they wouldn't be able to live in such confined spaces.
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[QUOTE=Infab;44802198]I imagine that if it came right down to it, the US would probably hit the station with a missile or something to prevent the Russians from keeping it. The whole 'if we can't use it, then nobody can use it' mentality. And then when the time calls for it, build a new station sans Russians.[/QUOTE] Or we just detach our parts from their parts and go our separate ways.
[QUOTE=Infab;44802198]I imagine that if it came right down to it, the US would probably hit the station with a missile or something to prevent the Russians from keeping it. The whole 'if we can't use it, then nobody can use it' mentality. And then when the time calls for it, build a new station sans Russians.[/QUOTE] what are you even talking about
When are we going to build a space colony and drop it on russia.
[QUOTE=Oldaveragejoe;44802345]When are we going to build a space colony and drop it on russia.[/QUOTE] isnt that just a russia colony
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;44800347]exactly. it's a closed, moist tube of air. Stale air, at that.[/QUOTE] I bet when they first open it when it comes back to earth from orbit, the whole thing will probably reak of farts and bad chinese food.
[QUOTE=Hamsteronfire;44801417]s'okay putin, we should all just build a non-russian ISS, with blackjack and hookers[/QUOTE] The Freedom Club no stinky russians allowed
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44800429]Ok, fuck you Putin. Spinless mother fucker can lay his "big" dick all over anything he wants, but banning us from the ISS over your own problems? That's the last straw.[/QUOTE] The last straw, okay what now?
[QUOTE=Ir1shfox;44803347]I bet when they first open it when it comes back to earth from orbit, the whole thing will probably reak of farts and bad chinese food.[/QUOTE] I kinda doubt it'd survive in any real fashion during a de-orbit. Do you [I]know[/I] how damn fast the ISS moves? I bet the ThinkPads on board would be fine, though. :v:
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;44800270]Wow, if I was an astronaut, and rode a fucking rocket up to the ISS just to see that, I would be incredibly upset.[/QUOTE] Nonsense, behold the first ever mold in space!
Oh I actually read the whole article. [quote]At a time when Moscow is struggling to reform its accident-plagued space programme, Mr Rogozin said US plans to deny export licences for some high-technology items were a blow to Russian industry. “These sanctions are out of place and inappropriate,” Mr Rogozin said. “We have enough of our own problems.” Moscow’s response would affect NK-33 and RD-180 engines which Russia supplies to the US, Mr Rogozin said. “We are ready to deliver these engines but on one condition that they will not be used to launch military satellites,” he said. RD-180 engines are used to boost Atlas 5 rockets manufactured by United Launch Alliance, a partnership of Lockheed Martin and Boeing that holds a virtual monopoly on launching U.S. military satellites. Mr Rogozin said Moscow was planning "strategic changes" in its space industry after 2020 and aims to use money and "intellectual resources" that now go to the space station for a "a project with more prospects". He suggested Russia could use the station without the United States, saying: [B]"The Russian segment can exist independently from the American one. The U.S. one cannot."[/B] [/quote] So the title is wrong, the [I]United States[/I] is barring Russia from selling us RD-180 and NK-33 engines which ULA uses for some of their rockets (like I said in my previous post) Also they said they're thinking about using their ISS parts for a separate station, effectively killing the ISS project because the American side can't really function without the Zvezda module, essentially making the outpost useless if the Russians decide to leave. This is bad for everyone on the ISS who is not Russian. [editline]14th May 2014[/editline] To be clear, the original life expectancy of the ISS was 2020 anyway, but NASA wanted to keep it up till 2024. It now appears Russia is unwilling to entertain that idea. Bring on the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration_Gateway_Platform"]EGP[/URL]
[QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;44804006]I kinda doubt it'd survive in any real fashion during a de-orbit. Do you [I]know[/I] how damn fast the ISS moves? I bet the ThinkPads on board would be fine, though. :v:[/QUOTE] I love the idea of the entire thing burning up during re-entry as planned but leaving a bunch of ThinkPads just floating down to earth.
Good, maybe this'll encourage the US to spend more money on space and less money on militarily forcing "democracy" down the throats of people that don't want it.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;44801204]That's just a weird way of saying it, though.[/QUOTE] its like 1/2 of 1% of the federal budget, thats where the penny term comes in [editline]14th May 2014[/editline] Send Elon Musk to the rescue! if not send siera nevada corp to the rescue! or ULA's capsule or orion or if all hope is lost we'll have to just use the french's soyuz launch facilities instead or wait for the brits to get skylon flying [editline]14th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=OvB;44800519]They have a surplus of those, and specifications to manufacture their own, and a court already said they had to stop purchasing new ones from Russia, so that should be alright.[/QUOTE] actually ironically the court ruled that they were fine to purchase engines as long as they could garente supply for 2 years (which they have stockpiled) only days later the russians decided to ban the sale of said engines so i think someone at ULA is probably getting the machinists ready
[quote]The US is keen to keep the $100 billion (£600) ISS flying until at least 2024, four years beyond its original target.[/quote] I can see it now: "We've decided to return to the original plan of ending the project in 2020 due to budget costs and the age of the craft" - Some US Space Rep In all seriousness though, I hope this provides some push for private companies like Space-X.
Welp we can't have it time to blow it up
Not sure if it's funny or sad that there are people here thinking this is the end of space exploration as we know it, as if this will stop people even 10,000 years from now leaven the Earth. In the cosmic scope of humanity, this isn't even a hiccup. In a hundred years, this won't even be mentioned in the history of space exploration.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;44812525]Not sure if it's funny or sad that there are people here thinking this is the end of space exploration as we know it, as if this will stop people even 10,000 years from now leaven the Earth. In the cosmic scope of humanity, this isn't even a hiccup. In a hundred years, this won't even be mentioned in the history of space exploration.[/QUOTE] Well, it could bring about the early end of a bastion of international cooperation. I would hope that would be remembered in space history. [editline]14th May 2014[/editline] They're not just saying they're not going to fly Americans up, they're saying they want to [I]take off the Russian half of the ISS and have their own station.[/I] The ISS is dead after that. Useless uncontrollable, uninhabitable, space junk.
[QUOTE=OvB;44812600]Well, it could bring about the early end of a bastion of international cooperation. I would hope that would be remembered in space history. [editline]14th May 2014[/editline] They're not just saying they're not going to fly Americans up, they're saying they want to [I]take off the Russian half of the ISS and have their own station.[/I] The ISS is dead after that. Useless uncontrollable, uninhabitable, space junk.[/QUOTE] Oh so its just an advanced version of their plan they have had for a while, to build a new satellite from the Russian parts of the ISS.
[QUOTE=Jsm;44812621]Oh so its just an advanced version of their plan they have had for a while, to build a new satellite from the Russian parts of the ISS.[/QUOTE] Pretty much but the two sides are in disagreement. We wanted to keep the ISS until 2024 which is impossible without the Russians.
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