Nerve Gas Attack in Damascus - Up to 1300 Dead - As Usual Everyone is Pointing Fingers at Eachother
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[QUOTE=Aman;41919091]Doesn't even have to be faked could be real. What does Assad have to gain? Nothing. What does the opposition have to gain off of this? more than nothing that is for sure.[/QUOTE]
No one has come to the conclusion that Assad has done this so you can calm down.
[QUOTE=person11;41919226]I'd argue that nerve or any war gas is much worse than nuclear weapons. At least you die quickly from a bomb.[/QUOTE]
Nuclear weapons also leave fewer long lasting effects, people are still dying in Halabja. The nerve agents seep into lower sections of buildings and such and remain there for a long time. However, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were safe enough to go through after just a couple weeks.
There is absolutely no reason for Assad to do this, he knows what the outcome would be.
This doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE=person11;41919226]I'd argue that nerve or any war gas is much worse than nuclear weapons. At least you die quickly from a bomb.[/QUOTE]
[I]most[/I] do, but there are unfortunate few who get third degree burns and suffer from radiation poisoning, not to mention loss of their homes, their families, etc.
i'd say gas is still worse though. I hope something is done about this..
I've had to read up on history in class on the WW2 Japanese medical research / pure evil horror camp unit 731 that practically invented the fun basics of Nerve gas.
Our history teacher was a cold man.
[QUOTE=Comcastic;41919258]There is absolutely no reason for Assad to do this, he knows what the outcome would be.
This doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]
There is no point either, a big bomb would be more useful for the regime considering it's the capital of Syria.
[QUOTE=nomad1;41919223]I thought chemical warfare was discontinued after WWII?[/QUOTE]
There was no chemical warfare in WW2, WW1 had chemical warfare. Not everyone is gonna keep to the rules, in the 80's during the conflict between Iran and Iraq gas was used for example.
Danish politicians are going on we should do something about this, and faster than an investigation can turn something up.
We have been set up before people, we will be again.
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I'm surprised this isn't getting more extensive coverage in the media. My condolences to everyone who lost their own lives or loved ones.
[QUOTE=elevate;41919346]I'm surprised this isn't getting more extensive coverage in the media. My condolences to everyone who lost their own lives or loved ones.[/QUOTE]
People are dying somewhere? Fuck that, people needs to know how celebrities eat their salad.
Sad truth about media.
To all of you [del]idiots[/del] out-of-the-box thinkers who think this was a conspiracy by NATO to get their dick into Syria's mouth, the reason the numbers are varied so much and might be higher than actual is because it's fucking chaos there. Not only did they get gassed, but there's -- you know -- a civil war going on with limited access to internet and facts and shit. Same thing happened in the chaos of 9/11, where it was thought that at least 25,000 people died.
I'm not saying that the story is word of god, but don't go talking about how it was thermite paint or some bullshit before thinking about it.
Does anyone know which Neurotoxin was used?
I can't understand why either side would use gas. This is awful.
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;41919537]Does anyone know which Neurotoxin was used?[/QUOTE]
no one knows, everything else is speculation until independently verified by someone who is qualified.
[QUOTE=Aman;41919091]Doesn't even have to be faked could be real. What does Assad have to gain? Nothing. What does the opposition have to gain off of this? more than nothing that is for sure.[/QUOTE]
What would Assad have to gain by gunning down protesters?
[QUOTE=Mingebox;41919579]What would Assad have to gain by gunning down protestors?[/QUOTE]
trying to prevent civil unrest/war.
Is that not obvious?
They are doing it right now in Egypt and it's kind of working.
[QUOTE=whale;41918473]i didn't mean to fart[/QUOTE]
For real dude? What kind of person has the nerve to make a gas joke at a time like this?
[QUOTE=Aman;41919590]trying to prevent civil unrest/war?
Is that not obvious?
They are doing it right now in Egypt and it's kind of working.[/QUOTE]
Or maybe he's just a crazy asshole?
[QUOTE=Aman;41918932]that isn't "1300 people" and it just makes no sense. I'm never a person to talk about conspiracies but this seems fishy as fuck. So Assad wants to give NATO/America/Israel a pretext for air assaults, guided missile strikes, cross-border SF incursions, No-Fly zones and other chicanery?
The regime has absolutely [I]zero[/I] to gain (and a lot to lose) from this so why would they do it? Especially when they know they are on thin ice. And this attack comes on the very day the long awaited UN inspectors show up. You really think Assad is that retarded? This is just way too convenient.[/QUOTE]
If the UN wanted to fake a nerve gas attack, they wouldn't wait until the day they got there, lol.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41919771]If the UN wanted to fake a nerve gas attack, they wouldn't wait until the day they got there, lol.[/QUOTE]
I never implied the UN faked a gas attack
[QUOTE=Aman;41919785]I never implied the UN faked a gas attack[/QUOTE]
...Oh, you're probably right in all honesty if you're positing that the rebels did it.
I guess whoever compared this to the Balkan Conflict made a pretty apt comparison. You don't think it could get any worse, and then it just does.
And keeps getting worse.
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;41919312]There was no chemical warfare in WW2, WW1 had chemical warfare. Not everyone is gonna keep to the rules, in the 80's during the conflict between Iran and Iraq gas was used for example.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Japan used Chemical weapons against the Chinese.
Lets not forget about Italy and Ethiopia but that could be viewed as a different war I guess.
That being said, the international community may not be getting involved simply because the situation is too complicated. Who do we support? How do we prevent things from getting worse?
This was apparently a land-based attack, which means declaring a no-fly zone would be useless in preventing further chemical attacks. We can't put troops on the ground or risk taking casualties from [b]BOTH[/b] sides because extremists nor government troops would appreciate our being there in the slightest. We can't just invade and put the country on lockdown (read: international effort at the hands of NATO/UN) because that would be a whole different level of messy.
It's complicated as fuck.
[QUOTE=person11;41919226]I'd argue that nerve or any war gas is much worse than nuclear weapons. At least you die quickly from a bomb.[/QUOTE]
Uh yeah not if you're on the outter edge of the blast, shockwave, or the compressed wall of heat, you might live 5 minutes, or an hour with your body ravaged by the heat and radiation.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;41920190]Uh yeah not if you're on the outter edge of the blast, shockwave, or the compressed wall of heat, you might live 5 minutes, or an hour with your body ravaged by the heat and radiation.[/QUOTE]
Or live till 76 and die of cancer.
[QUOTE=Comcastic;41919258]There is absolutely no reason for Assad to do this, he knows what the outcome would be.
This doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]
What if he knows that people will come to this conclusion and will hate the rebels? Would be pretty meta, but considering the importance of these things, I'd say I wouldn't be surprised if he thought more than one step into the reactions.
The government expects that this will subdue the rebels?
All this did was kill countless uninvolved civilians and create more rebels.
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