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[QUOTE=Bobie;37783793]looks like you haven't clicked the scarier sections of porn sites then[/QUOTE] Yeah, but those were buff 80 year old women. We're talking about animals who are weakened by the environment.
[QUOTE=C47;37783462]Like I said, its about consent. In the countries where zoophilia is legal, as long as the animal isnt raped, its ok.[/QUOTE] zoophilia is always rape
Also contrary to your furry erotica, most females probably don't want to have sex. As you can see here in this video, the female was running away. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxoK5bRWSro[/media]
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37783838]Also contrary to your furry erotica, most females probably don't want to have sex. As you can see here in this video, the female was running away. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxoK5bRWSro[/media][/QUOTE] lol citing a youtube video as a credible source as i explained earlier, find out if and how animals give consent. if animal gives consent, nothing wrong also im not really an expert but having sex with a turtle would be kinda difficult i dunno
Cory Bernardi needs to [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MB3Szl23xI"]shut up [/URL]and realize those things are such radically different things. [QUOTE=C47;37783462]Like I said, its about consent. In the countries where zoophilia is legal, as long as the animal isnt raped, its ok.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but interspecies is retarded and wrong and the only people I hear about who are really into that stuff have serious mental issues / are plain [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVLVR4nc54g"]creepy[/URL]. even if the animal isn't raped, it's still not ok. But considering they literally can't give consent, they're always raped... because... [I]how does an animal tell people they were raped[/I]? [QUOTE=Bobie;37783692]it's not rape if it's consenting. my post explicitly states that there can be legal mechanisms for ensuring the prevention of animal rape while allowing man/animal sexual relations to exist.[/QUOTE] yes because you can prove an animal was raped by [I]simply asking [/I]it. what fantasy world do you live in. [QUOTE=Bobie;37783877]lol citing a youtube video as a credible source as i explained earlier, find out if and how animals give consent. if animal gives consent, nothing wrong also im not really an expert but having sex with a turtle would be kinda difficult i dunno[/QUOTE] how do you even investigate whether or not animal rape was involved, or if it gave consent. It's an animal, it doesn't know what's going on like we do. and youtube can be very credible you know.
[QUOTE=J!NX;37784010]words[/QUOTE] zoophiles are a very extreme minority of a population, meaning that you either regulate/treat them (which is difficult, time consuming, expensive and rarely works), you throw them into prison like the other philes and lock away the key, or you give them legal access to regulated animal consent. it's not perfect, but it's something to work towards i don't get why everyone in this thread thinks i'm a crazy furry that wants the right to rape all animals i see lol
[QUOTE=Bobie;37784098]zoophiles are a very extreme minority of a population, meaning that you either regulate/treat them (which is difficult, time consuming, expensive and rarely works), you throw them into prison like the other philes and lock away the key, or you give them legal access to regulated animal consent. it's not perfect, but it's something to work towards i don't get why everyone in this thread thinks i'm a crazy furry that wants the right to rape all animals i see lol[/QUOTE] because you're acting like a crazy furry who wants the right to rape all animals you see... in fact... you should get a title for this. and since you didn't read shit. "yes because you can prove an animal was raped by simply asking it. what fantasy world do you live in." it's far too hard and universally impossible to regulate this shit, and far too costly, far too many people will disagree with it to cooperate. And you think it can... just simply be regulated? People [I]will[/I] take any action for this anyone takes the wrong way and protest, either in groups or otherwise in mass, with their pets asses having a chastity belt. there's literally no use to legalizing it, especially when people who rape animals will just do it anyways, illegally and quietly...
Considering you're encouraging bestiality, I dont blame them. This "consent" thing will never happen. There will be no law rewrites because I highly doubt politicians would allow this because they're still uneasy about homosexuals. Plus animal rescue groups will shit bricks and do drastic shit. I'm sure other fellow bestality enthusiasts suggested something as absurd as this, and got the same feedback.
[QUOTE=J!NX;37784136]because you're acting like a crazy furry who wants the right to rape all animals you see... in fact... you should get a title for this. and since you didn't read shit. "yes because you can prove an animal was raped by simply asking it. what fantasy world do you live in." it's far too hard and universally impossible to regulate this shit, and far too costly, far too many people will disagree with it to cooperate. And you think it can... just simply be regulated? People [I]will[/I] take any action for this anyone takes the wrong way and protest, either in groups or otherwise in mass, with their pets asses having a chastity belt. there's literally no use to legalizing it, especially when people who rape animals will just do it anyways, illegally and quietly...[/QUOTE] then what do you propose to do that helps zoophiles?
[QUOTE=Bobie;37784169]then what do you propose to do that helps zoophiles?[/QUOTE] Nothing, because I [B]hate[/B] zoophiles. It will never work. they don't deserve rights because it's not the same, this is an Atheist saying... it should be between a human and a human. I even agree with people being allowed to marrying one other person in a trio marriage.
[QUOTE=Bobie;37784169]then what do you propose to do that helps zoophiles?[/QUOTE] We treat them like any other person with a disorder, through therapy.
[QUOTE=J!NX;37784177]Nothing, because I [B]hate[/B] zoophiles. they don't deserve rights because it's not the same, this is an Atheist saying... it should be between a human and a human.[/QUOTE] wow lol [QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37784185]We treat them like any other person with a disorder, through therapy.[/QUOTE] thats more like it. there isnt really any research into the treatment of zoophiles however
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37784185]We treat them like any other person with a disorder, through therapy.[/QUOTE] this, of course. it can't be anything torturous like "Gay treatment therapy". Obviously.
[QUOTE=J!NX;37784205]this, of course. it can't be anything torturous like "Gay treatment therapy". Obviously.[/QUOTE] why would gay treatment therapy be any different to zoophile treatment
[QUOTE=Bobie;37784232]why would gay treatment therapy be any different to zoophile treatment[/QUOTE] I was talking about that hyper religious "Conversion therapy" shit that kills peoples self esteem and makes them feel like shit for being alive. and gay treatment therapy is wrong because it treats a born-difference as if a genuine mental illness/big evil sin. [sp] and I disagree with all types of gay 'therapy' because it's not a mental illness[/sp] i'm saying make it ACTUAL therapy treating an ACTUAL issue / mental illness.
Like it or not raping animals is a mental health issue.
[QUOTE=J!NX;37784378]I was talking about that hyper religious "Conversion therapy" shit that kills peoples self esteem and makes them feel like shit for being alive. and gay treatment therapy is wrong because it treats a born-difference as if a genuine mental illness/big evil sin. [sp] and I disagree with all types of gay 'therapy'[/sp] i'm saying make it ACTUAL therapy treating an ACTUAL issue.[/QUOTE] so it's ok to break someone down for their sexual identity as long as it isn't homosexuality. Well excuse me but fuck you.
[QUOTE=J!NX;37784378]I was talking about that hyper religious "Conversion therapy" shit that kills peoples self esteem and makes them feel like shit for being alive. and gay treatment therapy is wrong because it treats a born-difference as if a genuine mental illness/big evil sin. [sp] and I disagree with all types of gay 'therapy' because it's not a mental illness[/sp] i'm saying make it ACTUAL therapy treating an ACTUAL issue / mental illness.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Chernarus;37784401]Like it or not raping animals is a mental health issue.[/QUOTE] but are there any sources that claim that zoophilia is a mental illness that can be outright [I]cured[/I]? there are people who think that homosexuality is a mental illness, and people who think they've been cured of the gays
[QUOTE=Ban Evader;37784413]so it's ok to break someone down for their sexual identity as long as it isn't homosexuality. Well excuse me but fuck you.[/QUOTE] I was saying give them actual therapy not beat the shit out of them mentally and homosexuality is gender preference, not a fetish or preference of a different species. They're apples and oranges. [QUOTE=Bobie;37784421]but are there any sources that claim that zoophilia is a mental illness that can be outright [I]cured[/I]? there are people who think that homosexuality is a mental illness, and people who think they've been cured of the gays[/QUOTE] I'm not saying it can be cured, I'm saying use therapy to help them avoid doing anything harmful or anything to animals. i genuinely don't give a fuck about attraction, I hate them when they actually [I]act[/I] upon it. Guy rapes animal, gets proper, friendly therapy. what is the problem?
[QUOTE=J!NX;37784430]I was saying give them actual therapy not beat the shit out of them mentally and homosexuality is gender preference, not a fetish or preference of a different species. They're apples and oranges.[/QUOTE] This just in homosexuality is nothing to do with sexuality. Stop the fucking presses.
[QUOTE=Ban Evader;37784451]This just in homosexuality is nothing to do with sexuality. Stop the fucking presses.[/QUOTE] rofl wow, look at the guy with selective reading. homosexuality is [B]gender preference[/B], not[B] preference of fetish/other things[/B], I just said it is about sexuality.
[QUOTE=J!NX;37784430]I was saying give them actual therapy not beat the shit out of them mentally and homosexuality is gender preference, not a fetish or preference of a different species. They're apples and oranges. I'm not saying it can be cured, I'm saying use therapy to help them avoid doing anything harmful or anything to animals. i genuinely don't give a fuck about attraction, [b]I hate them when they actually [I]act[/I] upon it.[/b][/QUOTE] we already know you lack the capacity for compassion, you don't need to re-iterate that point. but therapy does not solve the problem. zoophiles will know that the therapy is just a cheap attempt from the government to get them to stop having sex with animals (which does not cure them), and they will ignore it.
[QUOTE=Bobie;37784462]we already know you lack the capacity for compassion, you don't need to re-iterate that point. but therapy does not solve the problem. zoophiles will know that the therapy is just a cheap attempt from the government to get them to stop having sex with animals (which does not cure them), and they will ignore it.[/QUOTE] yes so lets just let animals get fucked and not punish people for it seriously rofl wow your such a kind and compassionate person for this infinite wisdom or are you saying jailing them instead of giving them a fine and therapy is the better way? and hating people for raping animals is a bad thing? rofl wow
[QUOTE=J!NX;37784430] i genuinely don't give a fuck about attraction, I [B]hate[/B] them when they actually act upon it. Guy rap-[/QUOTE] Yeah ok.
You can cure a fetish. I heard you can cure a BDSM fetish by strapping a shock collar to the patient and activating it every time they think about BDSM. oh wait a minute
[QUOTE=J!NX;37784468]yes so lets just let animals get fucked and not punish people for it seriously rofl wow your such a kind and compassionate person for this infinite wisdom or are you saying jailing them instead of giving them a fine and therapy is the better way?[/QUOTE] i just don't understand what gay camp style therapy and a punishment will do to curb zoophilia. 'i hate zoophiles they don't deserve rights'
[QUOTE=J!NX;37784468]or are you saying jailing them instead of giving them a fine and therapy is the better way?[/QUOTE] hold incredibly hypocritical position, Respond with belligerent ad hominems to anyone pointing out how retarded you are, now you're setting up a straw man. Just stop.
Hi, I'm a zoophile, ask me anything. I've never raped an animal, I've never had sex with any consenting animals either, I consider myself a zoophile simply because I recognize animals can willingly consent to sex with other species, it happens all the time and I don't see why humans are any different. It's impossible to prove whether animals consent in court which is why beastiality is usually illegal in most regions, animals cannot testify in court at any capacity. I'm perfectly fine with that as I don't like or advocate animal rape or exploitation in any manner or form and it's simply too complicated for any legal system to reasonably deal with. I love animals and seem to relate to and understand animal psychology pretty well, if you can't tell whether an animal is comfortable or not, you're an idiot and should not attempt to mate with them. I've met and am friends with at least a couple of other zoophiles, none of them 'rape animals' and they are usually more kind and empathetic people than I normally meet. This is the difference between 'zoophile' and 'beastophile'. Any other misconceptions about zoophiles I can address? Now is the time for questions, comments, box ratings, insults and custom titles if you feel so obliged.
[QUOTE=Ban Evader;37784476]Yeah ok.[/QUOTE] I feel like I really just shouldn't talk to you on account of having literally nothing intelligent or useful to say. [QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37784485]You can cure a fetish. I heard you can cure a BDSM fetish by strapping a shock collar to the patient and activating it every time they think about BDSM. oh wait a minute[/QUOTE] exactly not what I was saying, though you're probably joking anyways [QUOTE=Bobie;37784512]i just don't understand what gay camp style therapy and a punishment will do to curb zoophilia.[/QUOTE] rofl except I never said that, I said give them actual therapy, where they are treated fairly and kindly. As opposed to jailing them and treating them like shit. seriously are you trolling or just having a brain fart. You were justifying raping animals just a minute ago. TL;DR Man rapes dog, gets proper therapy as opposed to being treated like absolute shit and jailed. Of course I'm going to hate someone for animal abuse but I don't want them treated like subhuman.
[QUOTE=Ybbats;37784523]Hi, I'm a zoophile, ask me anything. I've never raped an animal, I've never had sex with any consenting animals either, I consider myself a zoophile simply because I recognize animals can willingly consent to sex with other species, it happens all the time and I don't see why humans are any different. It's impossible to prove whether animals consent in court which is why beastiality is usually illegal in most regions, animals cannot testify in court at any capacity. I'm perfectly fine with that as I don't like or advocate animal rape or exploitation in any manner or form and it's simply too complicated for any legal system to reasonably deal with. I love animals and seem to relate to and understand animal psychology pretty well, if you can't tell whether an animal is comfortable or not, you're an idiot and should not attempt to mate with them. I've met and am friends with at least a couple of other zoophiles, none of them 'rape animals' and they are usually more kind and empathetic people than I normally meet. This is the difference between 'zoophile' and 'beastophile'. Any other misconceptions about zoophiles I can address? Now is the time for questions, comments, box ratings, insults and custom titles if you feel so obliged.[/QUOTE] I pity you, but respect your rights as a human being. Unlike J!NX, Which is really weird considering he is gay, it's like a jew advocating death camps. GODWINGODWINGODWINGODWIN
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