• ‘Marriage equality could lead to bestiality’ senator falls further into the shit
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How most politicians view homosexuality: [img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l95g11JLNW1qzqvm2o1_500.jpg[/img]
Well this thread [B]CERTAINLY[/B] went places since last time I checked in. Hoooo boy :v:
[QUOTE]‘The next step … [B]is having three people that love each other should be able to enter into a permanent union endorsed by society, or four people[/B],’ Bernardi told the Senate.[/QUOTE] I know right? And we can't have that because it would be bad, because... wait, why would that be bad again?
[QUOTE=Bobie;37785314]i would also like to see evidence that rehabilitative services for any form of sexuality can prevent people from ever performing the act again. [editline]edit[/editline] lol 4 dumbs and nobody's challenged it. maturity at it's finest[/QUOTE] if you can rehab drug usage, chronic masturbation, OCD, fear of bees, child molesters, sociopaths... you can rehab an urge to fuck dogs, assuming that they wish to have change in their lives. [url]http://www.addictiontoday.org/addictiontoday/2010/11/rehabilitation-evidence.html[/url] and you don't have to give electric-therapy to do it. It's about human networking and understanding. "lol 4 dumbs and nobody's challenged it. maturity at it's finest" why do you care about dumbs so much?
if fucking an animal is okay, so is fucking a child (it's not). they have just as much capacity to give informed consent
[QUOTE=Dori;37785869]if fucking an animal is okay, so is fucking a child (it's not). they have just as much capacity to give informed consent[/QUOTE] this
well animals actually have even less capacity, but whatever
For anyone curious on how to cure a fetish: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aversion_therapy[/url]
[QUOTE=Dori;37785906]well animals actually have even less capacity, but whatever[/QUOTE] to be fair while this is true they still are more "Mature" in terms of species age however are just as "mentally mature". This doesn't make it right or unequal however. This is also the extremely key difference between human and human, human and dog if it was like, lets say, furries exist, and you have dogs with human level understanding then that is entirely different and is interspecies even still. Humans and actual dogs have totally different levels of intelligence and modes of thought. [QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37785937]For anyone curious on how to cure a fetish: [url]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aversion_therapy[/url][/QUOTE] this would be ok but only if it's not forced and the person wants a big difference this is what I was talking about when I was saying we need to avoid using [I]that[/I] therapy to stop the act. I meant actual communication. That therapy is used on gays by the religious in order to "Cure" them of being gay but they do it in a way that kills self esteem and is forcefully religious. That is what I meant. but of course, I'm "an asshole who wants people reeducated"
[QUOTE=J!NX;37785944]to be fair while this is true they still are more "Mature" in terms of species age however are just as "mentally mature". This doesn't make it right or unequal however. This is also the extremely key difference between human and human, human and dog if it was like, lets say, furries exist, and you have dogs with human level understanding then that is entirely different and is interspecies even still. Humans and actual dogs have totally different levels of intelligence and modes of thought. this would be ok but only if it's not forced and the person wants a big difference this is what I was talking about when I was saying we need to avoid using [I]that[/I] therapy to stop the act. I meant actual communication. That therapy is used on gays by the religious in order to "Cure" them of being gay but they do it in a way that kills self esteem and is forcefully religious. That is what I meant. but of course, I'm "an asshole who wants people reeducated"[/QUOTE] well if there are rehabilitative services that can help zoophiles, then i'm a-ok with that. i never once referred to you as an asshole who wants people re-educated, but i'm sceptical on the use of aversion therapy; it doesn't work that well on psychological factors that stretch deep into sexuality.
[QUOTE=Nipa;37782387]The Australian Labor Party.[/QUOTE] Huh, good to know. How well are they doing? I assume the Aussie Liberals are currently leading, since there seems to have been a heavy odour of Conservative waffle from what news i've heard.
I've only been trying to tell you what I said there for a while now and that's fair you didn't say that, but Ban Evader has a brain tumor or something. Mods are being lazy and not banning for "Why reply" "Dumb/trolling".
Are you guys seriously still talking about bestiality? Biggest derailment I've seen for a while.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;37786271]Are you guys seriously still talking about bestiality? Biggest derailment I've seen for a while.[/QUOTE] This is facepunch. And not really, because it's FP and bestiality [I]is[/I] in the title I mean, what are we going to bitch about? how gay marriage should be legalized? it's boring when we all know it should.
[QUOTE=J!NX;37786257]I've only been trying to tell you what I said there for a while now and ok fair you didn't say that, but Ban Evader has a brain tumor or something.[/QUOTE] of course. after this debate i'm not really sure how consenting some of the less intelligent animals can be, i still believe that animals that have sex for enjoyment such as dolphins can give consent however i would also like to take this time to reiterate for everyone that i am not a zoophile or a furry lmao. though you can still buy me the title if you want
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;37786271]Are you guys seriously still talking about bestiality? Biggest [B]derailment [/B]I've seen for a while.[/QUOTE] this post is irony in itself
Didn't i say on the first page animals can consent to humans the same way they consent to their own species? If it's consent on the animals terms then how is it harmful?
[QUOTE=deathgod;37786464]Didn't i say on the first page animals can consent to humans the same way they consent to their own species? If it's consent on the animals terms then how is it harmful?[/QUOTE] because it's an power issue and animals do not communicate in the same capacity that we do
[QUOTE=deathgod;37786464]Didn't i say on the first page animals can consent to humans the same way they consent to their own species? If it's consent on the animals terms then how is it harmful?[/QUOTE] I think the problem is that there is no way to tell that they're giving consent towards you. How is the person entirely sure that it's not based on what he thinks instead of what the animal thinks?
[QUOTE=Ownederd;37786498]because it's an power issue and animals do not communicate in the same capacity that we do[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;37786520]I think the problem is that there is no way to tell that they're giving consent towards you. How is the person entirely sure that it's not based on what he thinks instead of what the animal thinks?[/QUOTE] Most animals have pretty distinctive behavior, there's an element of uncertainty in a lot of things in that regard but it's not a reason to say they outright can't consent. If you saw someone being raped they probably wouldn't need to say one coherent word of English for you to know they're being raped. Struggling, screaming, etc.
[QUOTE=deathgod;37786677]Most animals have pretty distinctive behavior, there's an element of uncertainty in a lot of things in that regard but it's not a reason to say they outright can't consent. If you saw someone being raped they probably wouldn't need to say one coherent word of English for you to know they're being raped. Struggling, screaming, etc.[/QUOTE] Um some animals don't
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37788383]Um some animals don't[/QUOTE] Right, but for those you'd know it's a bad idea?
[QUOTE=deathgod;37788682]Right, but for those you'd know it's a bad idea?[/QUOTE] The "quiet" ones are also a bad idea?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37788707]The "quiet" ones are also a bad idea?[/QUOTE] What do you mean by quiet ones? I'm talking more about body language.
[QUOTE=deathgod;37788753]What do you mean by quiet ones? I'm talking more about body language.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=deathgod;37786677]Struggling, screaming, etc.[/QUOTE]
That's me giving a shit example.
[QUOTE=deathgod;37788808]That's me giving a shit example.[/QUOTE] what do you think? you're not questioning rape, which is inherently what beastility is????
For a second I thought you were saying that it's ok to rape the quiet ones.
Huh? What i'm trying to say doesn't seem to be getting through. A happy interspecies relationship is perfectly possible. If you don't believe me look at the experiences of zoophiles themselves.
[QUOTE=ironman17;37786255]Huh, good to know. How well are they doing? I assume the Aussie Liberals are currently leading, since there seems to have been a heavy odour of Conservative waffle from what news i've heard.[/QUOTE] Ehh, it flips back and forth. The conservative leader is a fairly repulsive human being, but people like him because he's tough on "boat people" (he wants to send them back or send them to offshore processing), while the current PM is weak on "boat people" (she wants to send them back or send them to offshore processing) That's basically what our political situation consists of at the moment.
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