I like how FP is pretty much anti-religion but now all of the sudden people have souls :v:
This is not how teleportation works in star trek...But anyhow i'm looking forward to our quantum speed cellulars.
[QUOTE=Fatman55;29203431]I know it sounds stupid but I would [B]never[/B] go into a teleporter.
Not because I would be scared of just not coming out the other end but what if you were destroyed and then it was basically a copy, nobody would ever be able to tell either.[/QUOTE]
Aye. Wormholes all the way people! Deconstructional teleporters are practically a death sentence. I'd much prefer some sort of Houdini Switcheroo, a method that basically swapped two portions of spacetime without any deconstruction involved, save for the patchwork displacement of spacetime.
Nonetheless, it'd be handy for quantum computers, even if it doesn't permit FTL communications. (as if it would in the first place)
But then again, as a friend of mine once said, science isn't an absolute understanding of the universe, it's what we THINK the universe is like, as opposed to religion claiming things to be absolute and perfect. But I remember an immortal motto that's actually pretty sensible, despite being from a video game. Nothing is true, everything is permitted (yes, it's from Assassin's Creed).
In short, even the best theories of science are only what we THINK things to be like, and believing things to be absolute is very close to religion. No matter how sophisticated we get, there will ALWAYS be inconsistencies and inaccuracies, NOTHING will be absolute. There is always the chance of even the most firmly-established beliefs being wrong, even dogma as set-in-stone as the "universal constant", otherwise known as the lightspeed limit.
We haven't gone there yet, so we cannot possibly know. It's like Schrodinger's Cat, it is both possible and impossible until the box is opened. And what lies inside the box will change everything, regardless of it's contents.
All of a sudden Mailmen lose their jobs everywhere. :v:
I'm starting to think that if technology ever advances to the point of being able to teleport living beings, scientists will have to come up with some bullshit soul storage and transfer device just to get people to use it
It wouldn't actually do anything, but no one would notice the difference and everyone would teleport around happily
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;29207592]But that's why I made the point. You have two "different" consciousnesses that are physically indistinguishable when you sort of sew them together in time. So consciousnesses are interchangeable in that way. So you just teleport someone. The "original" is destroyed, and the "teleported copy" is created somewhere else. The original consciousness disappears maybe kind of debatably, but now you have a consciousness that is precisely the same as the old one, with all of its memories and etc. in a new place. How is it at all distinguishable from the old one?
Thinking about this has informed how I think about consciousness. I think all of the things I "see" and "feel" are just manifestations of my body, and my consciousness is what we call that. I don't have any real control over it and I'm not really experiencing anything. I don't blame you for disagreeing with me. I don't think I can accurately put into words my thoughts on the issue.
After thinking about this for a while, my approach has become to ignore consciousness as coincidental, and just consider the physical systems instead.
No one will notice a difference because there isn't one.[/QUOTE]
There is so very little understanding of the human brain that no one can for sure say what conciousness is.
If there was a soul, this teleportation thingy would be even easier. When teleporting, just attach the soul to new clone and that's it.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;29214381]If there was a soul, this teleportation thingy would be even easier. When teleporting, just attach the soul to new clone and that's it.[/QUOTE]
In all honesty, a soul does not necessarily have to be a mystical spirit force, it could be anything for all we know, maybe even just a form of energy.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29214408]In all honesty, a soul does not necessarily have to be a mystical spirit force, it could be anything for all we know, maybe even just a form of energy.[/QUOTE]
Aren't spirits(if they existed) made of energy too? Hence the glowing energy balls and shit
I thought entanglement can transport states but not useful information faster than the speed of light? Can JohnnyMo1 or someone else explain how that holds with this?
[i]But can it blend?[/i]
I'm 100% sure I heard that this had already been done between two of the canary isles. I think it was while I was on a physics open day in Liverpool.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29214190]There is so very little understanding of the human brain that no one can for sure say what conciousness is.[/QUOTE]
Clearly it's caused by ghosts
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[QUOTE=Lord_Skellig;29214587]I thought entanglement can transport states but not useful information faster than the speed of light? Can JohnnyMo1 or someone else explain how that holds with this?[/QUOTE]
I haven't studied in enough depth to tell you. Ask aVoN.
It's early days yet, but if this technology ever became advanced enough to transport organic materials then I don't think it would catch on to the general public very quick. The idea of being broken down (essentially killed) and rebuilt probably wouldn't appeal to most people.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;29214572]Aren't spirits(if they existed) made of energy too? Hence the glowing energy balls and shit[/QUOTE]
Well I'm not a spiritist so I really don't know.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;29215474]Clearly it's caused by ghosts
[/QUOTE]
No one mentioned ghosts, keep your pants on.
[QUOTE=Lord_Skellig;29214587]I thought entanglement can transport states but not useful information faster than the speed of light? Can JohnnyMo1 or someone else explain how that holds with this?[/QUOTE]
Nah, no information, no nothing, travels faster than the speed of light.
Nothing.
Nada
Zip
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[QUOTE=sam.clarke;29215688]It's early days yet, but if this technology ever became advanced enough to transport organic materials then I don't think it would catch on to the general public very quick. The idea of being broken down (essentially killed) and rebuilt probably wouldn't appeal to most people.[/QUOTE]
I think it's more the existential problems that put people off, If it breaks me down and rebuilds me as me and my own personal subjective awareness remains intact then I'll be grinning like a bitch from now til I die, but I refuse to be teleported until someone can prove 100% that my current form isn't destroyed permanently and some near perfect clone is rebuilt at the other end with my personality but not my awareness.
Expected Bandage Boys.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;29202974]It said destroying and recreating, i think that would kill you and rebirth you as a mindless braindead hunk of flesh.[/QUOTE]
"Recreating"
What are memories? What are thoughts? You have no idea if they will be re-created, so don't say they won't be.
[QUOTE=bravehat;29215728]Nah, no information, no nothing, travels faster than the speed of light.
Nothing.
Nada
Zip
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I think it's more the existential problems that put people off, If it breaks me down and rebuilds me as me and my own personal subjective awareness remains intact then I'll be grinning like a bitch from now til I die, but I refuse to be teleported until someone can prove 100% that my current form isn't destroyed permanently and some near perfect clone is rebuilt at the other end with my personality but not my awareness.[/QUOTE]
As has been discussed, it would be nigh on impossible to transport your "awareness". As this is solely a chemical reaction within the brain simply mimicking it would be possible but to transport it from entity to the next wouldn't. Your current being and awareness would be destroyed, while the clone at the other end would still be in exactly the same state of mind, bearing the same thoughts and memories, there would be no continuance of YOUR consciousness, merely a new carbon copy at the other end.
This is amazing.
I do wonder what the practical applications are though.
I know they use some quantum mechanics for electronics but that's about it.
How long until intercontinental 5 ping multiplayer games
How long until every single person who wants to use PC's properly has to have at least a PhD to even understand it.
Rofl, next were going to read about how my mother cleaned the bathroom today. Honestly, I believe this is cool but just inform me once we move bacteria or something.
[QUOTE=Miskav;29203407]That means it's not your brother, as that would imply your parents living for another thousand years.
The word you're looking for is brethren.[/QUOTE]
what would i do without you
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;29216744]How long until every single person who wants to use PC's properly has to have at least a PhD to even understand it.[/QUOTE]
You don't and won't ever need to be smart to use a pc.
To understand how it works, sure, but to use it, never.
This is going to screw us over some day.
trust me I'm a scientist.
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[QUOTE=The Pwnapple;29210737][img_thumb]http://cache.kotaku.com/gaming/images/gordon.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
Ok how did you get a picture of me?!?!
shit man you are creepy! STAY AWAY!
[QUOTE=coco911231;29215777]Expected Badage Boys.[/QUOTE]
Holy gods, enough of this! It's just about every. god. damn. thread.
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;29216744]How long until every single person who wants to use PC's properly has to have at least a PhD to even understand it.[/QUOTE]
That was in the sixties
I call "entangling" couples as some sort of marriage.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;29207240]No no i mean like a hole like in the game "Portal"
Where it makes a hole that goes directly to another place.
Think of putting a door against your home in england and it comes out ontop of the statue of liberty.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AaronM202;29207259]Yes well, thats scifi[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;29216744]How long until every single person who wants to use PC's properly has to have at least a PhD to even understand it.[/QUOTE]
Looking at your post, I'd say it's going the other way round...
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