• Texas Drops Special Last Meals for Death Row Inmates
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Getting pissed off at it, fine. But this is just plain dumb.
The problem is that Rick Perry executes so many people that it gets really pricy.
This just in: Texas reinstates Old Sparky.
Ah, that feel when I live in Texas and click on threads like this
The jails can start having Execution night dining plans. It could be like an ice cream bar setup every time someone is going to die :v
I was going to kill a bunch of people for a shit load of free fried chicken but now it's not worth it so nevermind I guess
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;32446945]They don't have that already?[/QUOTE] They don't, no. You can face serious social and legal repercussions for police brutality alone.
[QUOTE=Reimu;32457534]They don't, no. You can face serious social and legal repercussions for police brutality alone.[/QUOTE] Yeah, [B]you[/B] can, not the police man, they usually get off with a little bit of local news exposure.
So is the law written such that they can request any food and the state is obligated to pay for it? If so, I'm pretty sure that's kind of a bad thing in the sense that you could order a wedding cake or that nonsense. I'm not exactly sure about anything in this area, but shouldn't it be the case that the warden/whoever might be in charge of rehibilitation be obligated to pass requests that come to them for final meals? In any case, I don't know what that kind of a meal would cost in texas, but I'm sure it costs less than what it would cost to hold the prisoner for the remainder of his life
[QUOTE=MasterG;32469141]I'm a strong advocator of reform rather than punishment. What happens when you take a violent and unhappy individual, from a violent and unhappy upgringing, and put them in a violent and unhappy place? They stay violent and unhappy. (source [url]http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdf[/url]) And, oh hey, would you look at that (source [url]http://www.bra.se/extra/measurepoint/?module_instance=4&name=aterfall_2004.pdf&url=/dynamaster/file_archive/100528/7654948e0e02ef1970cb956e25335200/aterfall%255f2004.pdf[/url]) So it looks like if you actually give someone the skills to get a job, a means to have an alternative to committing crime, they're far more likely to turn things around for themselves.[/QUOTE] I feel like comparing those two percentages from the US and Sweden is a little unfair. Far more people live in the US, so naturally the percentage will be higher. Though that's not saying I don't agree with you.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;32469330]I feel like comparing those two percentages from the US and Sweden is a little unfair. Far more people live in the US, so naturally the percentage will be higher. Though that's not saying I don't agree with you.[/QUOTE] It's proportional, as in "the amount of convicted criminals who re-offended". The total amount of criminals is irrelevant.
[QUOTE=MasterG;32469141]I'm a strong advocator of reform rather than punishment. What happens when you take a violent and unhappy individual, from a violent and unhappy upgringing, and put them in a violent and unhappy place? They stay violent and unhappy. [quote]"A 2002 study survey showed that among nearly 275,000 prisoners released in 1994, 67.5% were rearrested within 3 years, and 51.8% were back in prison. However, the study found no evidence that spending more time in prison raises the recidivism rate, and found that those serving the longest time, 61 months or more, had a significantly lower re-arrest rate (54.2%) than every other category of prisoner. This is most likely explained by the older average age of those released with the longest sentences, and the study shows a strong negative correlation between recidivism and age upon release."[/quote] (source [url]http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdf[/url]) And, oh hey, would you look at that [quote]In Sweden, 39% of people convicted of crimes in 2004 had been convicted again within three years.[/quote] (source [url]http://www.bra.se/extra/measurepoint/?module_instance=4&name=aterfall_2004.pdf&url=/dynamaster/file_archive/100528/7654948e0e02ef1970cb956e25335200/aterfall%255f2004.pdf[/url]) So it looks like if you actually give someone the skills to get a job, a means to have an alternative to committing crime, they're far more likely to turn things around for themselves.[/QUOTE] Don't forget about Norway, where they value rehabilitation even more, arguably, than Sweden: [quote]The recidivism rate for prisoners in Norway is around 20 percent.[/quote] [url]http://www.newsoxy.com/features/recidivism-rate-in-norway-28356.html[/url] These numbers are going down faster than I went down on the mothers of people who support capital punishment!
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;32469330]I feel like comparing those two percentages from the US and Sweden is a little unfair. Far more people live in the US, so naturally the percentage will be higher. Though that's not saying I don't agree with you.[/QUOTE] Err... you are aware how percentages work, right?
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;32469330]I feel like comparing those two percentages from the US and Sweden is a little unfair. Far more people live in the US, so naturally the percentage will be higher. Though that's not saying I don't agree with you.[/QUOTE] lol did you fail math?
Give them a last meal but it shouldn't be better than most normal people eat each night for dinner. They don't deserve that in anyway. Better idea, stop executions so we don't have any last meals.
[QUOTE=Fatman55;32468987]Yeah, [B]you[/B] can, not the police man, they usually get off with a little bit of local news exposure.[/QUOTE] What about Amadou Diallo, Sean Bell, Rodney King, and Jean Charles de Menezes? Maybe it's because I live in the Metropolitan area, but if someone gets shot by the police by accident, it's news for a year.
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[QUOTE=GunFox;32443014]They are still fed, but in the United States a prisoner is traditionally allowed to have whatever they want as their last meal. They are removing that and just giving the condemned the same thing as everyone else.[/QUOTE] I agree with you that it's fucked up but prison food is not that bad at all. Even though someone's going to be executed they still get a decent meal. It's not like they're fed slop. That only happens when you go to county jail.
I say do away with the whole last meal AND execution thing entirely. But not tell anyone about it. When they request their last meal, continue to force them to eat it, unstopping, continuously, at threat of being shot in non fatal places if they don't, until they die from food overdose. How's that for an execution :v:
Are we really saying that they deserve a last meal? Their treatment could be a lot worse than it currently is, even in Texas.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;32471662]I say do away with the whole last meal AND execution thing entirely. But not tell anyone about it. When they request their last meal, continue to force them to eat it, unstopping, continuously, at threat of being shot in non fatal places if they don't, until they die from food overdose. How's that for an execution :v:[/QUOTE] lol XD and put iton utube XD
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;32445046]Can't you just deny certain parts of their requests? I remember reading a list somewhere, and a lot of requests for a smoke with the meal got turned down.[/QUOTE] Apparently here they just provide them with whatever the closest thing they have in the kitchens is. Which makes it even more ridiculous to deny them a last meal. In other states it's restricted too. In Florida the meal can't cost more than $40.
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[QUOTE=Pikachu231;32442968]So, we should let them starve before they die? That's seems logical, in Texas of course. It's only giving a human being one last meal before he dies, what's so "extremely inappropriate" about that?[/QUOTE] It's not like they're not allowed to eat. The last meal thing is just where they can have anything they want to eat.
Fuck you Texass. If I'm on death row, I at least demand a catfish platter to bring with me to the afterlife. [QUOTE=rosar0980;32444150]They're sentenced to death because they took someone's right to life. They didn't give them a special meal, a last word, anything. They simply murdered them, and, as such, gave up all rights they had. If it were my way, they would be murdered in the same way that they murdered their victim.[/QUOTE]Ok, what about the cases where the individual on death row is actually innocent?
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;32446945]They don't have that already?[/QUOTE] Please explain how police have the power to execute anyone they want. :allears:
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32469541] These numbers are going down faster than I went down on the mothers of people who support capital punishment![/QUOTE] why bring this up
Soon, in Texas, past, present, or future criminals will be shot on sight.
[QUOTE=TBFundy;32480264]why bring this up[/QUOTE] So people like you would get your pants in a knot
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32481833]So people like you would get your pants in a knot[/QUOTE] cool just like every other FP'er
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