Trump Just Dismissed the People in Charge of Maintaining Our Nuclear Arsenal - Polidicks

I personally find the amount of bitching about Trump hilarious, when most of the people don't understand how truly complex a job being the President of the United States actually is. If everything isn't perfect, people will always throw their arms up in to the air and say that this is definitely the end of the world/country. All I can say to that is give me a break. "It's okay if Obama lied and did nothing his entire presidency, but Trump will definitely be the worst president because he has said dumb things!" Sigh.

Obama is not a president who did nothing though?

[QUOTE=Revelificent;51702272]I personally find the amount of bitching about Trump hilarious, when most of the people don't understand how truly complex a job being the President of the United States actually is. If everything isn't perfect, people will always throw their arms up in to the air and say that this is definitely the end of the world/country. All I can say to that is give me a break. "It's okay if Obama lied and did nothing his entire presidency, but Trump will definitely be the worst president because he has said dumb things!" Sigh.[/QUOTE] Obama did nothing his entire presidency? Are you serious?

[QUOTE=Revelificent;51702272]I personally find the amount of bitching about Trump hilarious, when most of the people don't understand how truly complex a job being the President of the United States actually is. If everything isn't perfect, people will always throw their arms up in to the air and say that this is definitely the end of the world/country. All I can say to that is give me a break. "It's okay if Obama lied and did nothing his entire presidency, but Trump will definitely be the worst president because he has said dumb things!" Sigh.[/QUOTE] trump will be the worst president because his cabinet, his goals, his manner are all incohesive. I'm not even sure he understands HOW laws become laws because he seems to think that he's going to introduce a healthcare plan to the house and senate soon and talks about enacting massive tarrifs that he can't actually do without congressional approval what people are trying to point out is that trump is almost always all talk and no action, look at his entire transition as evidence. "I will announce something that will fix all my ethics issues!" way too late later "I decided, i'm not going to do anything, i didn't have to, but i'm going to do that for you guys!" the job of being the president didn't start this afternoon, it started back on november 9th and so far he has failed every test

What exactly has Obama accomplished besides mass division (in regards to race, and police), a shitty healthcare law that is utter nonsense that shouldn't have passed, allowing ISIS to become a major terrorist threat, etc? I don't think he is the worst president of all time but he has done a whole bunch of nothing. >trump will be the worst president because his cabinet, his goals, his manner are all incohesive. I'm not even sure he understands HOW laws become laws because he seems to think that he's going to introduce a healthcare plan to the house and senate soon and talks about enacting massive tarrifs that he can't actually do without congressional approval That's funny, Obamacare sure seemed to pass pretty easily through executive order. Edit: I doubt you can even properly prove that his is so incohesive compared to previous presidents. >what people are trying to point out is that trump is almost always all talk and no action, look at his entire transition as evidence. "I will announce something that will fix all my ethics issues!" way too late later "I decided, i'm not going to do anything, i didn't have to, but i'm going to do that for you guys!" Presidents saying they will do things and then not is nothing new. You might want to look in to what Obama promised if you don't believe this. >the job of being the president didn't start this afternoon, it started back on november 9th and so far he has failed every test I mean in your opinion he has sure. In mine he is doing great, especially for someone who hasn't had a life lived in politics.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;51702480]Don't you blame Obama for the division, that's a deep rooted issue with a source you can't even point fingers at.[/QUOTE]That's actually a completely fair thing to say, although I still have problems with it. The President is the single most important and media focused person in the country. They have so much more sway and pull than even celebrities do that they MUST be held accountable for what they do that causes division. Obama didn't stand up for the brave men and women who protect our cities and towns. He stood up for racist black people who want attention and overplay the racial problem to such an extreme that you'd think we are living in the era of racial segregation. This is why he nearly singlehandedly made the racial divide in this country SO MUCH worse than it already was. He had clear bias towards members of his own race and ignored actual statistical evidence. He might not be solely responsible, but he is one of the largest reasons we have such a divide right now.

[QUOTE]What exactly has Obama accomplished besides mass division (in regards to race, and police), a shitty healthcare law that is utter nonsense that shouldn't have passed, allowing ISIS to become a major terrorist threat, etc? I don't think he is the worst president of all time but he has done a whole bunch of nothing.[/QUOTE] imagine being so brainwashed that you believe that all of these things are attributable to obama. [QUOTE]>trump will be the worst president because his cabinet, his goals, his manner are all incohesive. I'm not even sure he understands HOW laws become laws because he seems to think that he's going to introduce a healthcare plan to the house and senate soon and talks about enacting massive tarrifs that he can't actually do without congressional approval That's funny, Obamacare sure seemed to pass pretty easily through executive order. Edit: I doubt you can even properly prove that his is so incohesive compared to previous presidents.[/QUOTE] yeah obama used a lot of executive orders (less than bush did though) but for important legislation he insisted on passing it through the political system which ended up fucking it up massively because of GOP contrarianism. (i.e. the ACA) the massive bulk of his executive orders pertained to environmentalist protection, miscellaneous bureaucratic shit, and protections for minorities and federal workers. trump has proudly announced he intends on undoing all of these for no real reason other than spite. [QUOTE]>what people are trying to point out is that trump is almost always all talk and no action, look at his entire transition as evidence. "I will announce something that will fix all my ethics issues!" way too late later "I decided, i'm not going to do anything, i didn't have to, but i'm going to do that for you guys!" Presidents saying they will do things and then not is nothing new. You might want to look in to what Obama promised if you don't believe this.[/QUOTE] statistically, obama has kept about as many promises as other presidents have, which is most of them. given the fact most presidents tend to keep their promises, the things trump have promised are [I]fucking insane.[/I] [QUOTE]>the job of being the president didn't start this afternoon, it started back on november 9th and so far he has failed every test I mean in your opinion he has sure. In mine he is doing great, especially for someone who hasn't had a life lived in politics.[/QUOTE] he could start by not acting like a manchild on twitter and utterly failing every definition of being a leader of a united country by continually mocking his political rivals and their voters.

[QUOTE=1239the;51702511]imagine being so brainwashed that you believe that all of these things are attributable to obama.[/QUOTE] Wow how clever, to suggest that I'm brainwashed because my views differ from yours. You might want to read some psychology books before you go around throwing that out at people. [QUOTE=1239the;51702511]yeah obama used a lot of executive orders (less than bush did though) but for important legislation he insisted on passing it through the political system which ended up fucking it up massively because of GOP contrarianism. (i.e. the ACA) the massive bulk of his executive orders pertained to environmentalist protection, miscellaneous bureaucratic shit, and protections for minorities and federal workers. trump has proudly announced he intends on undoing all of these for no real reason other than spite.[/QUOTE] And you have the audacity to suggest I'm brainwashed right before saying this, LOL. I had no problem with the number of executive orders, I had a problem with the orders in particular, some of which were so bad that the courts actually sued over it. I believe one of them relating to immigration was one, oh and that's another one of those problems of Obama as well, immigration. He failed that spectacularly along with most everything else he attempted to do. "No real reason other than spite." Yeah, totally. That's totally what is going on. Having the audacity to call me brainwashed x2. [QUOTE=1239the;51702511]statistically, obama has kept about as many promises as other presidents have, which is most of them. given the fact most presidents tend to keep their promises, the things trump have promised are [I]fucking insane.[/I][/QUOTE] Honestly I can't be arsed to go look at all the shit he promised and failed to do but it is true that presidents often don't do everything they say they are going to do so fair enough. Honestly though, Obama is regarded as the worst president in the history of the US for a reason by a lot of realistic people. [QUOTE=1239the;51702511]he could start by not acting like a manchild on twitter and utterly failing every definition of being a leader of a united country by continually mocking his political rivals and their voters.[/QUOTE]There is so much more shit that requires serious attention than Trump having a bit of an anger issue and posting some silly thing on Twitter. You people always overplay his anger issues and what he tweets about. Anger issues are something that a LOT of people have, and you can bet your ass that many of them are just self-trained to the point where they don't show it. Trump is a REAL person who has no desire to hide how he really is, and goddamn is it refreshing. Two face bullshit is tiring.

[QUOTE=Revelificent;51702567] Honestly I can't be arsed to go look at all the shit he promised and failed to do but it is true that presidents often don't do everything they say they are going to do so fair enough. Honestly though, Obama is regarded as the worst president in the history of the US for a reason by a lot of realistic people.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/[/url] If you seriously think Obama is the worst president you need to pick up a history book.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51702574][url]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/[/url] If you seriously think Obama is the worst president you need to pick up a history book.[/QUOTE] Not going to lie, I don't agree he is the worst president. I think he is one of the worst, not the worst. That's just how many people view it. Many of these people have never picked up a history book either.

So wait having open anger issues is refreshing? Why do trump supporters rag on me for being angry openly when I used to be? I mean cmon the reasoning is so flimsy on that point

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51702581]So wait having open anger issues is refreshing? Why do trump supporters rag on me for being angry openly when I used to be? I mean cmon the reasoning is so flimsy on that point[/QUOTE] I can tell when people are arguing seriously or trolling at this point.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51702581]So wait having open anger issues is refreshing? Why do trump supporters rag on me for being angry openly when I used to be? I mean cmon the reasoning is so flimsy on that point[/QUOTE]It isn't the anger that is refreshing, it's someone who isn't a lying shill who adapts to the climate of the people he is speaking to. [QUOTE=Lambeth;51702583]I can tell when people are arguing seriously or trolling at this point.[/QUOTE] I'm not trolling if that's what you mean :3.

[QUOTE=Revelificent;51702585]It isn't the anger that is refreshing, it's someone who isn't a lying shill who adapts to the climate of the people he is speaking to.[/QUOTE] That's what Trump does

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51702587]That's what Trump does[/QUOTE] That's why he sounds the same no matter what right?

[QUOTE=Revelificent;51702590]That's why he sounds the same no matter what right?[/QUOTE] No no no he's a lying piece of shit.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51702595]No no no he's a lying piece of shit.[/QUOTE]There is very little evidence of that I'm afraid.

[QUOTE=Revelificent;51702585]It isn't the anger that is refreshing, it's someone who isn't a lying shill who adapts to the climate of the people he is speaking to.[/QUOTE] The irony of this statement in this thread is just mindblowing. [media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811977223326625792[/media] [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-arms-idUSKBN14Z0XS[/url]

[QUOTE=Drury;51702651]The irony of this statement in this thread is just mindblowing. [media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811977223326625792[/media] [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-arms-idUSKBN14Z0XS[/url][/QUOTE] Mind explaining the irony? Also you might have missed this post. [QUOTE=Kecske;51702222]Update: The NNSA administrator was asked to remain. [url]http://gizmodo.com/at-the-last-minute-trump-asks-nuclear-safety-administr-1791440966[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Revelificent;51702708]Mind explaining the irony? Also you might have missed this post.[/QUOTE] "The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes" "Trump says wants nuclear arsenals cut 'very substantially'"

[QUOTE=finbe;51702736]"The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes" "Trump says wants nuclear arsenals cut 'very substantially'"[/QUOTE] "U.S. President-elect Donald Trump said he wants arsenals of nuclear weapons reduced very substantially [B]as part of any nuclear deal with Russia[/B], The Times newspaper reported." There could still be a contradiction but I don't think so and I'm kind of high so please do point out if there is one. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Posting under the influence" - Hezzy))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Revelificent;51702708]Mind explaining the irony? Also you might have missed this post. >Update: The NNSA administrator was asked to remain. [url]http://gizmodo.com/at-the-last-minut...str-1791440966[/url][/QUOTE] [quote]isn't a lying shill who adapts to the climate of the people he is speaking to.[/quote] is what I'm referring to. He makes conflicting statements all the damn time. One time he's spewing hate on everything from Mexico to Islam to climate science, next day he's saddened at all the hate from his supporters. First he wants to repeal obamacare in its entirety, then just partially, then later he wants to fully repeal all Obama's reforms.

[QUOTE=Revelificent;51702422]What exactly has Obama accomplished besides mass division.[/QUOTE] And you say this in defense of Trump

Honestly it's hard to argue against that. Fuck I dunno, I'm just a guy with an opinion anyway.

[QUOTE=Revelificent;51702598]There is very little evidence of that I'm afraid.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4ufond/a_final_response_to_the_tell_me_why_trump_is_a/"]Oh yeah totally[/URL] Very little, just a complete dearth of evidence :unimpressed:

[QUOTE=Sitkero;51703904][URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4ufond/a_final_response_to_the_tell_me_why_trump_is_a/"]Oh yeah totally[/URL] Very little, just a complete dearth of evidence :unimpressed:[/QUOTE] Also [url]http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/[/url]