EA filtering non-5 star ratings for Dungeon Keeper
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[QUOTE=Raidyr;43872388]Why is this very simple, observable fact so thoroughly impossible to grasp?[/QUOTE]
Why do you always accuse others of ignorance?
Once again, there are no actual numbers (which sort of devalues this fact), and they did try to parade it around in interviews. Nobody is denying that some of the hate comes from their stance. The point is that it is in all likelihood a borderline irrelevant percentage. The point is that bringing it up in interviews and spending several paragraphs of time responding to it, while other things get a fragment is trying to shunt the blame elsewhere.
Without hard numbers (which I don't even know if they could even acquire), they can't show that it is a major factor. Even if it somehow is, it still doesn't address all the other problems that they have, so at best it's a moot talking point. People hate lots of different companies for lots of unfathomably retarded reasons. The LGBT stance is just another one of thousands.
[QUOTE=kaven;43872469]Fair enough, but my point is that all of those points were entirely unnessessary as the voting was people clicking a button and not writing a single letter, meaning that no person that voted actually said any of those things(at least not at the time), yet they assumed that at least a mentionable amount of people voted because of that.[/QUOTE]
The poll was posted on Free Republic and they say they receive thousands of emails because of it, it stands to reason that they received atleast some votes due to it. If they received a handful it's still fact.
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Even if it somehow is, it still doesn't address all the other problems that they have.[/QUOTE]
Because it's not supposed to.
They addressed those other problems.
The LGBT thing was it's own thing.
The reason I'm assuming ignorance is because you are blatantly misconstruing this post
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(missing a few paragraphs at the top) [url]http://www.ea.com/news/we-can-do-better[/url]
"Several paragraphs".
[QUOTE=Raidyr;43872625]The poll was posted on Free Republic and they say they receive thousands of emails because of it, it stands to reason that they received atleast some votes due to it. If they received a handful it's still fact.
Because it's not supposed to.
They addressed those other problems.
The LGBT thing was it's own thing.
The reason I'm assuming ignorance is because you are blatantly misconstruing this post
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(missing a few paragraphs at the top) [url]http://www.ea.com/news/we-can-do-better[/url]
"Several paragraphs".[/QUOTE]
I'm assuming free republic is some sort of site for people with right-wing opinions?
[QUOTE=kaven;43872735]I'm assuming free republic is some sort of site for people with right-wing opinions?[/QUOTE]
Yes. It may have been posted elsewhere but that is the only one I know where it was posted for sure.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;43872756]Yes. It may have been posted elsewhere but that is the only one I know where it was posted for sure.[/QUOTE]
Could they have claimed another vote then? Whether it is a significant amount of people or not, that is still a bit like mountain dew actually renaming themselves to "Hitler did nothing wrong" after 4chan raided them. Although I suppose one cannot see exactly how many people voted based on that fact, which I believe was Zephyrs point.
[QUOTE=kaven;43872878]Could they have claimed another vote then? Whether it is a significant amount of people or not, that is still a bit like mountain dew actually renaming themselves to "Hitler did nothing wrong" after 4chan raided them. Although I suppose one cannot see exactly how many people voted based on that fact, which I believe was Zephyrs point.[/QUOTE]
It was a significant chunk, I can say that much
Right wingers get zealous in their opinions, it's why they're the most vocal political group today even if in most places they're the smallest.
[QUOTE=kaven;43872878]Could they have claimed another vote then? Whether it is a significant amount of people or not, that is still a bit like mountain dew actually renaming themselves to "Hitler did nothing wrong" after 4chan raided them. Although I suppose one cannot see exactly how many people voted based on that fact, which I believe was Zephyrs point.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand why there needs to be an arbitrary value that we need to determine with statistical accuracy. Some people don't like EA because of microtransactions. so they responded to that. Some people don't like EA because of DRM, so they responded to that. Some people don't like EA because of shutting down servers, they responded to that. And some people don't like EA because EA accepts gay people. It doesn't need to be a significant amount for them to respond to it and double down on their stance publicly. Them doing so doesn't make other criticisms disappear, especially when they explicitly counter those criticisms in the same statement. This is going to be my last post on the topic because I'm just going around in circles and repeating myself. Just read what Peter Moore said.
Yeah not surprising, EA being EA.
On a side note, would be nice if people filtered those retarded "I'm rating 1 now because I'm still downloading" or "I DONT HAVE ENOUGH SPACE RATED 1" comments.
Seriously, why do people do this? Or is it just the Portuguese/Brazilian Play Store that gets this shit?
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;43872307]It's on GoG.com, just buy it there with Dungeon Keeper 2 for less then the price of the lowest pack of gems in the bullshit mobile game.[/QUOTE]
I personally wouldn't bother with 2.
Spells weren't as interesting, and cost mana to use instead of gold. When everything cost gold in DK1, it was more challenging since it meant you had to think about what you spent your money on when you didn't have purple gold.
They changed training rooms so that they only leveled up your creatures to a certain point, and after that you had to level them up in the pit, meaning your dungeon has to take up additional room and cost more if you're turtling. They also added a casino which was gimmicky and played disco inferno all the time which was irritating after the 1st time it played. They also got rid of the scavenger room which was the funnest thing ever. Bridges were also annoying since you had to buy stone bridges for lava since wood ones would burn if they were built in lava, which is a needless tediousness that doesn't need to be added to the game.
The singleplayer campaign levels were mostly boring as shit and the horned reaper could only be summoned. DK1 had a better system where you could simply make one in a temple by sacrificing a select group of your creatures, which then had a more challenging and interesting system where you'd have to devote your resources to keeping the reaper happy, or else he'd go on a killing spree throughout your dungeon. The creatures in DK2 were decidedly more human than beastial, which is boring. DK1 had a larger variety of different creatures which were all interesting and different species, like the Tentacle and the two headed dogs and the beatles and the spiders and the flies, flies were hilarious since they'd retardedly fly into battle when scouting and then flutter around.
In addition, they replaced the demon spawn grows up into a dragon thing, which was a nice touch that DK1 had. Instead we ended up with a shitty fire salamander.
The sound and atmosphere in DK1 was considerably cooler than the one that DK2 had. The soundtrack was eerily awesome, [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKUyghA70X4]just listen to this[/url].
Also, DK2 was overly simplified in general which meant you could fuck up so hilariously bad and still come out on top. DK1 was harder and also had the Deeper Dungeons which were borderline impossible unless you knew how the level worked. You could easily fuck up and die if you weren't paying attention; DK2 was like a baby compared to DK1. DK1 also had more interesting AI, so on the later levels of the game and the deeper dungeons, the AI would sometimes do bizarre shit and whoop your arse by complete accident, whereas DK2 was extremely linear in terms of AI and it would do the same thing each time.
Sure DK2 had slightly more intuitive systems and I suppose was easier to get into and had 3D graphics instead of mostly sprites, but like a lot of 2D games that transition into 3D, it just forgets to keep the gameplay up to scratch.
I genuinely hope EA goes under and all of it's good employees get jobs at other more awesome studios.
EA's pro-LGBT stance is a PR stunt, and a scapegoat for any criticism they get
they're not trying to protect LGBT people from discrimination, they're using LGBT people to protect THEMSELVES from criticism
[QUOTE=Coffee;43873332][I]"Talking shit about Dungeon Keeper 2"[/I][/QUOTE]
Allright, that's it, we're taking this outside...
EA is a joke
[QUOTE=Zeke129;43870710]"I rate this game 1 star, additional stars can be purchased for $4.99 each"[/QUOTE]
Installed the game just so I could rate it one star with this comment.
I love how free to play mobile games get gradually more and more hilarious as time goes on.
Like, I had a few installed on my ipod back in the day. I updated them like, a year or two later and they were suddenly filled with all this WEIRD ASS bullshit that made no sense, like "LOG IN EVERY DAY TO GET FREE MONEY" or "DO THE SURVEY, GET THE CASH!" or "CLICK THE MID-GAME AD!"
You know, I once had a thought that were was a reason why EA was dickish, and usually I tried NOT to hop into the anti EA bandwagon because it's too easy to.
But this time, fuck EA, this is too far.
EA is ruining gaming, I am sad that they own franchises like Dead Space. Fuck those guys seriously, they jumped on the cash train they don't even give a shit about games anymore. I remember the times when I didnt frown upon seeing the EA Logo.
[QUOTE=RaxaHax;43870915]They're probably getting negative ratings just because they came out as pro-LGBT, remember?[/QUOTE]
remember when EA genuinely used this argument
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sloppy_joes does apparently
I seem to recall somebody in a previous thread propsing the idea that EA wasn't actually evil, just grossly incompetent. They made a pretty good argument for it, too.
That said, I find it hard to believe the higher-ups ordered this because they genuinely thought it was the best course of action and it would turn out well for them in the end. EA probably did this for a quick buck, knowing perfectly well the flak they would get for it. Then they do some PR stunt and win back most of the people they lost during this mess.
Of course, that's just my take on it.
Probably already posted somewhere but here it is anyway.
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I wish they'd release DK2 again like they did with Age of Empires 2. At least that way you can play a classic genre the way it was meant to be.
I wonder if they use the same kind of dickish behavior on their employees.
Like, you go and grab a coffee at the EA coffee machine, and the whole process of making a cup of coffee lasts 4 hours, unless you speed it up by paying five bucks.
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