DEVELOPING: Shooting reported at Connecticut elementary school; 27 killed - Polidicks

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38829938]Think that all you want, it won't make it reality.[/QUOTE] What? What? It's what we have now?

[QUOTE=zombays;38829942]I agree, banning guns shouldn't be allowed. More gun control, reduce the ability for someone to be able to tote around assault rifles and full auto pistols and discourage the use of firearms in general. It would be difficult, and maybe even impossible due to the massive hard-on 'murricuh has for firearms thanks to Rambo-esque media.[/QUOTE] Well from your post here I can tell you don't even know the basic laws surrounding owning firearms in the states so why even comment?

[QUOTE=RidleySmash;38829918]How about we just arm EVERYBODY so when something like this happens people will be able to defend themselves, others, and keep the situation from escalating.[/QUOTE] I seriously hope this is satire. Some people actually believe that this will work.

[QUOTE=Aman VII;38829890]I have an idea, lets not? I'd rather not have some knee jerk emotional reaction and tear apart the constitution and your interpretation of the 2nd amendment doesn't even match up to the supreme courts.[/QUOTE] You do realise that prohibition of alcohol used to be a Constitutional Amendment. Did the whole thing tear apart when they removed it?

[QUOTE=RidleySmash;38829918]How about we just arm EVERYBODY so when something like this happens people will be able to defend themselves, others, and keep the situation from escalating.[/QUOTE] Bad Ideas 101 with your host RidleySmash

killed both his parents too fuck

[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;38829855]That was done successfully in my city, we had a program called "Pixels for Pistols" where if you traded in a Firearm, you got a camera. It even applied for illegal guns. It's worked successfully in many cities, too. Winnipeg collected over 1700 guns from the program.[/QUOTE] Except those campaigns didn't actually do anything. The vast majority of guns turned in to those are either guns in an estate the person doesn't want or rusty old guns people don't want that either don't or barely work. Criminals don't participate in those kinds of campaigns, because they have no intention on handing their guns in. Hell, I'm waiting for Toronto to run one of these campaigns to trade in an old rustbucket that doesn't shoot straight for a new camera worth more than I paid for the gun.

[QUOTE=Aman VII;38829950]Why isn't your scenario happening in the states with millions of concealed carriers then?[/QUOTE] Allowing people to be armed =/= arming everyone

[QUOTE=aydin690;38828737]Can we all agree that these type of shootings are far less prevalent in other countries with more strict gun laws?[/QUOTE] well compared to the US pretty much any other country has stricter gun laws, so that's sorta a bad comparison. However regardless of whether or not gun laws increasing these things, there is no denying the bigger factor is social and economic policies in that country. Allot of European countries with really low crime rates have far less gun regulation than most other European countries, why? Because they have low crime, thus less likelihood to have gun massacres. But then you have America, which has an unusually high crime rate compared to many other 1st world countries, which ironically means we are one of the last country's whose citizens you would trust with guns :v:

[QUOTE=RidleySmash;38829918]How about we just arm EVERYBODY so when something like this happens people will be able to defend themselves, others, and keep the situation from escalating.[/QUOTE] How about we just kill ourselves right now? How about instead of waiting for IRL to turn into one constant John Woo gun battle with people prepared to open up fully automatic gunfire on each other at the drop of a hat we just save ourselves the trouble and jerk off to anime porn one last time before we all collectively drink bleach?

I'm not sure that banning guns would work, but America has a lot to answer for when it comes to providing psychological counselling for these sorts of homicidal maniacs. One doesn't just decide to shoot up a school, there's a run-up to it. Although easy access to weapons probably isn't going to help.

BBC saying police have found a body in a house "related to the gunman"

[QUOTE=zombays;38829942]I agree, banning guns shouldn't be allowed. More gun control, reduce the ability for someone to be able to tote around assault rifles and full auto pistols and discourage the use of firearms in general. It would be difficult, and maybe even impossible due to the massive hard-on 'murricuh has for firearms thanks to Rambo-esque media.[/QUOTE] people can't carry full-auto pistols anyways

I haven't seen a thread move this fast since Diablo III came out.

[QUOTE=Aman VII;38829950]Why isn't your scenario happening in the states with millions of concealed carriers then?[/QUOTE] Because that has nothing to do with RidleySmash's scenario? Really you couldn't figure that one out yourself?

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;38829956]I seriously hope this is satire. Some people actually believe that this will work.[/QUOTE] Works for Switzerland doesn't it? (Honestly might be wrong here but as far as I know they arm everyone and they have a pretty low gun related crime rate)

BAN ALL THE GUNS Lol. The people who already smuggle drugs from Mexico will begin smuggling guns too. And oh shit, can't do anything about that because stopping illegal Mexicans is 'racist'

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38829968]Except those campaigns didn't actually do anything. The vast majority of guns turned in to those are either guns in an estate the person doesn't want or rusty old guns people don't want that either don't or barely work. Criminals don't participate in those kinds of campaigns, because they have no intention on handing their guns in. Hell, I'm waiting for Toronto to run one of these campaigns to trade in an old rustbucket that doesn't shoot straight for a new camera worth more than I paid for the gun.[/QUOTE] As am I. Plumping pipe zip gun and they give me $ no questions asked? fuck yer

[QUOTE=The Baconator;38829974]well compared to the US pretty much any other country has stricter gun laws, so that's sorta a bad comparison. However regardless of whether or not gun laws increasing these things, there is no denying the bigger factor is social and economic policies in that country. Allot of European countries with really low crime rates have far less gun regulation than most other European countries, why? Because they have low crime, thus less likelihood to have gun massacres. But then you have America, which has an unusually high crime rate compared to many other 1st world countries, which ironically means we are one of the last country's whose citizens you would trust with guns :v:[/QUOTE] also please keep in mind America has the 3rd largest population in the world

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38829873]Hey, I have an idea: Fuck the second amendment. Let's just collectively decide that an amendment in the bill of rights intended to allow the easy organization of Militias is less important than the lives of all of these dead children and theater goers and high school students and mall shoppers.[/QUOTE] This whole argument is fucking stupid, but stopping people from legally obtaining firearms is obviously the wrong approach, how the fuck will that stop the people who illegally obtain them, which are usually the ones who pull this kind of shit anyways?

[QUOTE=Aman VII;38829926]no one is toting assault rifles, and these "assault rifles" are so ridiculously wide spread throughout the country already it is impossible to try and ban them now. It will not happen, far too many legal and illegal owners[/QUOTE] Hey, I'm not saying to ban them, that would be stupid and a waste of money, I jsut disagree with your statement that it would tear the constitution apart. What I've been trying to get at is discouraging the use of firearms in general, like the rewards for turning in guns program. Do you know how many people would gladly turn in half their firearm cabinet for some dosh and a glorious flatscreen TV? A lot. And dosh and a flatscreen TV is better than half a firearm cabinet.

[QUOTE=maximizer39v2;38829992]BAN ALL THE GUNS Lol. The people who already smuggle drugs from Mexico will begin smuggling drugs too. And oh shit, can't do anything about that because stopping illegal Mexicans is 'racist'[/QUOTE] You do realise that most firearms crossing that border are going [B]south[/B]. The mexican cartels use smuggled american weapons.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38829839]So your response to weekly mass shootings is to say "welp, too many guns, what you gonna do? Hope it's not me next time"?[/QUOTE] Maybe promote the right to have concealed carry in America? Adults with permits might have been able to prevent the shooting from being as bad as it was if they were allowed to bring their gun into the school or workplace. Obviously you're not going to stop a killer from walking into any school in America from going to town.

If you think the only reason people go on shooting sprees, is because they can, you are retarded and need to stop arguing right now. A gun ban would do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Want to prevent future shootings? Then stop trying to make the country and this world the SHITTIEST FUCKING PLACE IN THE WORLD to live in. You can make a difference right now by not being assholes, politicizing the deaths of a bunch of kids.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38829975]How about we just kill ourselves right now? How about instead of waiting for IRL to turn into one constant John Woo gun battle with people prepared to open up fully automatic gunfire on each other at the drop of a hat we just save ourselves the trouble and jerk off to anime porn one last time before we all collectively drink bleach?[/QUOTE] Why are you under the impression that owning a gun turns a person into a murderer? A ridiculous amount of the population in the US owns firearms but only a few crazy assmunchers go on these shooting sprees.

Any clue on what was wrong with the guy?

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;38829988]Works for Switzerland doesn't it? (Honestly might be wrong here but as far as I know they arm everyone and they have a pretty low gun related crime rate)[/QUOTE] You're wrong. That "everyone gets a free assault rifle in Switzerland" thing is more or less a myth. It's more like "free shooting range practice".

[QUOTE=LSK;38830001]This whole argument is fucking stupid, but stopping people from legally obtaining firearms is obviously the wrong approach, how the fuck will that stop the people who illegally obtain them, which are usually the ones who pull this kind of shit anyways?[/QUOTE] Why is it obviously wrong? I genuinely don't know, I've always had a hard time taking sides in gun control debates.

I shouldn't need to go here. Having a CPL is a responsibility and a right, not an opportunity to be a "cowboy" or "someone with a gun in their coat". Getting your CPL for the sake of carrying a gun is frustrating to me. Shit's not funny.. it's a serious obligation. Moving on... I hope the second gunman is found and is given the right to sit in a concrete box until age and abuse send his soul to the 7th circle of hell.

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;38829988]Works for Switzerland doesn't it? (Honestly might be wrong here but as far as I know they arm everyone and they have a pretty low gun related crime rate)[/QUOTE] Correlation =/= causation See, my point earlier was proven. Switzerland is a WAY different culture, to the point where it's almost impossible to use as an example. I'm sick of hearing people use Switzerland as an example as they don't understand shit about it. And for clarify our point about Asian gun law, their culture is different but on a different scale of Switzerland. It factors but it doesn't prove anything.