DEVELOPING: Shooting reported at Connecticut elementary school; 27 killed - Polidicks

[QUOTE=smurfy;38831834][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is2x7QTZ8AI[/media] wow[/QUOTE] This guy cannot be serious.

Its the younger brother of Ryan Lanza. His name is Adam Lanza (Confirmed from BBC)

[QUOTE=KILLTHIS;38831835]Absolutely. It's like banning weapons in general: It doesn't get to the core of the problem. Humans will stay humans and if they don't have guns or other weapons they will simple improvise or use everyday tools and vehicles in order to kill someone. Once you're at the point of thinking about a school shooting you don't really give much of a fuck anymore - and I think it wouldn't stop anyone from killing even armed guards.[/QUOTE] This is a non-solution. If you don't have any ideas to contribute than "well it's always gonna happen we might as well not do anything" then you probably shouldn't bother posting.

They messed up the names. Good going.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38831856]Yes they are?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.rethink.org/about_mental_illness/how_is_mental_illness_diagnosed/[/url] Imagine the resources required to screen every firearm owner in the US like that

[QUOTE=gnome;38831371]Lol facebook wall is blowing up with posts about how the government engineered all these recent shootings to make sure they can enforce gun control laws.[/QUOTE] I'm really sorry you live where people are that entrenched. Only one of my friends (A PMC) was of the opinion that the mass shooting would be used to take guns away, and he's a bit of a nutter.

Ryan Lanza is going to win a ridiculous libel suit now and I hope he does

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;38831832]First of all, what's an armed security guard going to do? Start a shootout? I hardly doubt that's an ideal solution. And besides, just adding guns to everything isn't the solution for security. What if the gun ends up on the kids' hands? Hell, I'd feel more stressed knowing that someone surrounded by kids is carrying a gun.[/QUOTE] That literally would never happen. A kid isn't going to go and steal the security guard's gun, and the guard sure as hell isn't going to give it to them. There is no risk to the kids having armed security at a school, several in the US do it already. And what about when police visit schools? They have their guns on them, would you be stressed about an armed cop being in the school? Chances are no, so why then an armed security guard. They're trained in how and when to properly use their guns, and are in direct supervision of them at all times. It wouldn't be much different than having a cop patrolling the school, except in the case of private security it doesn't use police resources.

[QUOTE=smurfy;38831834][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is2x7QTZ8AI[/media] wow[/QUOTE] Is this even serious?

[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;38831734][IMG]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/64773000/jpg/_64773308_64773307.jpg[/IMG] Are they doing the conga?[/QUOTE] Ignoring the joke, why are they doing that, anyway?

[QUOTE=Drakehawke;38831883][url]http://www.rethink.org/about_mental_illness/how_is_mental_illness_diagnosed/[/url] Imagine the resources required to screen every firearm owner in the US like that[/QUOTE] Imagine the resources spent on dealing with every firearm homicide in the country and I bet my nebulous, undefinable number will even out with your nebulous, undefinable number.

Something I just realized, Connecticut still abides by the 1994 assault weapons ban. Such great that did huh

[QUOTE=Judas;38831915]Ignoring the joke, why are they doing that, anyway?[/QUOTE] To make sure they don't lose any of the kids/so the kids won't run off. Similar practices are employed during fire alarms.

The guy called Ryan Lanza getting shat on by everybody because of media outlets not fact checking their shit again is disgusting... the suspect's first name isn't even Ryan, it's Adam... welp It must really suck to be that guy, getting his facebook page published everywhere as "the guy who killed the children!" and he's powerless to do anything about it

[QUOTE=Joseph Smith;38831914]Is this even serious?[/QUOTE] He's yet another extremist Christian making the rest of Christianity look bad.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38831918]Imagine the resources spent on dealing with every firearm homicide in the country and I bet my nebulous, undefinable number will even out with your nebulous, undefinable number.[/QUOTE] Yeah but how many firearms homicides are crazy people compared to just "regular" shootings

[QUOTE=Judas;38831915]Ignoring the joke, why are they doing that, anyway?[/QUOTE] So they don't see their classmates and teachers dead bodies

[QUOTE=Judas;38831915]Ignoring the joke, why are they doing that, anyway?[/QUOTE] Its just a way so that the kids don't get separated in the chaos.

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38831899]That literally would never happen. A kid isn't going to go and steal the security guard's gun, and the guard sure as hell isn't going to give it to them. There is no risk to the kids having armed security at a school, several in the US do it already. And what about when police visit schools? They have their guns on them, would you be stressed about an armed cop being in the school? Chances are no, so why then an armed security guard. They're trained in how and when to properly use their guns, and are in direct supervision of them at all times. It wouldn't be much different than having a cop patrolling the school, except in the case of private security it doesn't use police resources.[/QUOTE] Where I live (which is the eastern part of Aurora mind you) we have SRO's or school resource officers, aka policemen dedicated to armed security of the school. They were pretty cool dudes at my high school too. Had a kid get tazed trying to swipe one's gun.

[QUOTE=Aman VII;38831925]Something I just realized, Connecticut still abides by the 1994 assault weapons ban. Such great that did huh[/QUOTE] That's nice. Back to the topic.

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;38831929]The guy called Ryan Lanza getting shat on by everybody because of media outlets not fact checking their shit again is disgusting... the suspect's first name isn't even Ryan, it's Adam... welp It must really suck to be that guy, getting his facebook page published everywhere as "the guy who killed the children!" and he's powerless to do anything about it[/QUOTE] The media in general really needs a huge overhaul. I mean shit, is there ANY accountability to which they need to hold themselves?

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38831899]That literally would never happen. A kid isn't going to go and steal the security guard's gun, and the guard sure as hell isn't going to give it to them. There is no risk to the kids having armed security at a school, several in the US do it already. And what about when police visit schools? They have their guns on them, would you be stressed about an armed cop being in the school? Chances are no, so why then an armed security guard. They're trained in how and when to properly use their guns, and are in direct supervision of them at all times. It wouldn't be much different than having a cop patrolling the school, except in the case of private security it doesn't use police resources.[/QUOTE] It's so strange that one of the biggest arguments against gun control is out of fear of America becoming fascist but what you're suggesting as the alternative is literally a police state where crime is prevented by having omnipresent armed men. Because it's not just schools, we're also going to need those constantly present armed policemen at malls, theaters, public squares...

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38831957]It's so strange that people are opposed to gun control do so because they're afraid of America becoming fascist but what you're suggesting as the alternative is literally a police state where crime is prevented by having omnipresent armed men. Because it's not just schools, we're also going to need those constantly present armed policemen at malls, theaters, public squares...[/QUOTE] Or armed citizens. Which most states already have. I wonder about the true statistics of how much crime is prevented/stopped by concealed carriers. It'd be interesting to see

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38831918]Imagine the resources spent on dealing with every firearm homicide in the country and I bet my nebulous, undefinable number will even out with your nebulous, undefinable number.[/QUOTE] Dealing with ~150 million people, spending police time and resources to check every store ledger to try and find out who owns the ~350 million guns in the country, as well as running ads to alert people to various bans/restrictions, and then going and interviewing every one of the ~150 million people and paying for them to undergo a mental health assessment, then paying them fair market value for their guns if they fail so as not to be effectively stealing their property versus dealing with ~30,000 homicides and their investigations. Chances are the nebulous, undefinable number for screening hundreds of millions of people is going to be higher.

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;38831929]The guy called Ryan Lanza getting shat on by everybody because of media outlets not fact checking their shit again is disgusting... the suspect's first name isn't even Ryan, it's Adam... welp It must really suck to be that guy, getting his facebook page published everywhere as "the guy who killed the children!" and he's powerless to do anything about it[/QUOTE] Sad to see how stupid a lot of people are now a days. Considering the guy is still posting on facebook while the real killer shot himself.

Let's just have private citizens with guns everywhere, watching over everyone. Mass shootings can happen anywhere, can't they?

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38831879]This is a non-solution. If you don't have any ideas to contribute than "well it's always gonna happen we might as well not do anything" then you probably shouldn't bother posting.[/QUOTE] I'm just saying that your suggestion doesn't solve shit either. If I could I would probably invent some magical alarm system which goes off when someone thinks about starting a school shooting but I cannot create such a device. Adding armed guards would just worsen things up. Maybe it'd be better to restrict the access to weaponry in a different way (I am not aware of the current situation over there) - but still then there's the possibility of someone owning a gun before and developing a depression or god knows what afterwards - which could render such a prevention useless. There's simply no perfect solution but how do you want to stop school shootings if you simply put armed guards in front? That'd be like "hey, no shootings here, go to the mall!"

[QUOTE=smurfy;38831834][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is2x7QTZ8AI[/media] wow[/QUOTE] Yes, let's blame the atheists. That'll bring little billy back for sure. What a waste.

Honestly, I don't think it be that bad to have a armed cop on the premises. I think that is reasonable. Not the armed guards image that brings up a fascist state idea. Atleast the one we had at high school was a really chill guy. Always talked about how he busted Meth Labs and disarmed claymores that were in our city.

[QUOTE=Aman VII;38831972]Or armed citizens. Which most states already have. I wonder about the true statistics of how much crime is prevented/stopped by concealed carriers. It'd be interesting to see[/QUOTE] Cool, so instead of accountable police officers we'll be kept safe by vigilantes. That sounds like an awesome idea that will definitely not ever cause any problems.