• DEVELOPING: Shooting reported at Connecticut elementary school; 27 killed
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[QUOTE=imarawrus;38829196]Again, gross negligence on part of the seller. And "man" wasn't used in a condescending tone. Was there a bill of sale at least?[/QUOTE] It's not gross negligence it is entirely legal whether or not you believe me. I'm on mobile I'm not going to waste my time reiterating something I know for a fact just because you're confused
Really? You guys can't even have a civil argument when 18 + kids were shot dead. If you're going to argue about this and that at least keep it informative and respectful.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;38829199]No but you constantly and I mean constantly defend guns as being completly perfect. You LITERALLY just said guns are never the problem. I mean who the fuck are you kidding?[/QUOTE] Is a gun going to get up and start shooting itself? No. People with mental issues go on the shooting sprees. Not the gun.
This really has just ruined my day. This is god awful.
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;38829207]thread=derailed[/QUOTE] Unfortunately so, as someone had to start gun debate shitstorm #404.
Wow... Used to go to school in the same town and my brother used to play baseball there.
[QUOTE=imarawrus;38829196]Again, gross negligence on part of the seller. And "man" wasn't used in a condescending tone. Was there a bill of sale at least?[/QUOTE] Then this gross negligence is a wide spread problem And what do you do when it's a wide spread problem? You enforce it which means gun control. But every time you mention gun control in ANY facet, fucking gun nuts go insane. And this is the problem with discussing Gun Control, you say don't sell weapons to mentally ill people, they start going on sarcastically about how, oh gun free zones REALLLY work right?
Shit like this makes me not want to bring a child into this world. The world is such a dark place...
[QUOTE=faze;38829159]Just like someone said earlier, mental health is on the decline in the US.[/QUOTE] That and the oncoming 2012 apocalypse which many of the mentally ill (and any persons with a really tenuous grip on reality) believe in. I have no doubt there will be a few more shootings and maybe a mass suicide or two before December 21st.
At what point do we get to the point of decreasing civil liberties for safety, without finding the root of the problem? People die of drinking, ban alchohol people die of car crashes, ban cars ect of course guns are different, but it's still one right we have. At what point do we fix the roots of problems rather than live in bubbles? I would be fine with guns being way harder to obtain... but they exist, and if someone wants them, they will get them.
Good Christ, I work with kids at a daycare so this whole fucking thing makes my heart ache so badly.
[QUOTE=Aman VII;38829161]lol I thought you [I]weren't[/I] mudslinging. Also how do you propose to magically stop spree shootings that happen [B]once in a while[/B] with gun control?[/QUOTE] We are talking about the United States, perhaps you don't know where Connecticut is.
[QUOTE=faze;38829242]Shit like this makes me not want to bring a child into this world. The world is such a dark place...[/QUOTE] Knowing about humanity is one of the many reasons I am happy to be gay. I'd rather die alone than leave another to suffer and struggle to live in this world.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;38829244]That and the oncoming 2012 apocalypse which many of the mentally ill (and any persons with a really tenuous grip on reality) believe in. I have no doubt there will be a few more shootings and maybe a mass suicide or two before December 21st.[/QUOTE] I applaud the Mayans for putting into place a worldwide idiot cull. I also find those who will use December 21st as a reason to hurt others disgusting.
Apparently a press conference is coming soon. Hopefully that will clear some stuff up. With a lot of luck and some wishful thinking, maybe they won't make this guy famous.
[QUOTE=faze;38829221]Is a gun going to get up and start shooting itself? No. People with mental issues go on the shooting sprees. Not the gun.[/QUOTE] You do realise gun control is for people right? I mean You kinda just proved your own point wrong.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;38829200]OK, first of all, I'm not racist, I just don't like social degenerates, and I'm sorry to inform you that there are people of color who happen to fall into the category of a social degenerate.[/QUOTE] What exactly do you mean by this?
Ok let's assume the anti gun crowd get their gun control, how would that even fix the issue? What would be in place that would suddenly stop gun crime? Guns of all shape and form are so wide spread through the states what are you going to do? It's just illogical
[QUOTE=Kopimi;38829218]It's not gross negligence it is entirely legal whether or not you believe me. I'm on mobile I'm not going to waste my time reiterating something I know for a fact just because you're confused[/QUOTE] Okay, although I wasn't confused; just trying to get more information. I'm pretty informed on the private sale laws of my state, sorry that I'm not informed about Arizona's. Anyway, they say the shooter was wearing a bulletproof vest. It was probably just a load bearing vest but why, if he was actually wearing one, would he be? Leads me to believe the police killed him. [QUOTE=The_Marine;38829251]Good Christ, I work with kids at a daycare so this whole fucking thing makes my heart ache so badly.[/QUOTE] I work with children of school age, I pick them up from school. I can only imagine the reaction of the schools and parents will be.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;38829257]We are talking about the United States, perhaps you don't know where Connecticut is.[/QUOTE] Well hey it isn't everyday now is it
[QUOTE=The_Marine;38829251]Good Christ, I work with kids at a daycare so this whole fucking thing makes my heart ache so badly.[/QUOTE] Makes me glad i'm the youngest of my immediate family at nineteen, at least, so I don't have younger siblings to worry about - but some of my sisters have kids, so that doesn't leave me too far off in how concerned one can be about these things.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;38829250]At what point do we get to the point of decreasing civil liberties for safety, without finding the root of the problem? People die of drinking, ban alchohol people die of car crashes, ban cars ect of course guns are different, but it's still one right we have. At what point do we fix the roots of problems rather than live in bubbles?[/QUOTE] The slippery slope is a made up argument employed by gun owners to further avoid any and all attempts to moderate cowboy gun culture and laws
what the fuck a god damn elementary school god fucking damnit what the fuck
[QUOTE=NoDachi;38829273]What exactly do you mean by this?[/QUOTE] There are a class of people that contribute nothing positive to society and somehow because I believe that there are people of color in this category I am somehow a racist.
The media always spews horrible misinformation about the shooter you can pretty much ignore it until solid evidence arises. I think every shooter in existence always started out wearing a BULLETPROOF VEST
[QUOTE=NoDachi;38829273]What exactly do you mean by this?[/QUOTE] "I hate niggers but not all black people are niggers" And he's standing by it
I'm all for guns, but if you deny that physically murdering someone with a sharp object isn't mentally and physically harder than using a gun, you're deluding yourself. Feeling their flesh, the blood splattering, its warmth, their cries of agony, non-sudden death, sound of skin tearing and bones breaking, their weak but desperate resistance. Gives you a lot more time to consider what you're doing. With a gun, point-shoot-dead, reconsider and regret later. Takes all of the sickening intimacy out of it.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;38829287]There are a class of people that contribute nothing positive to society and somehow because I believe that there are people of color in this category I am somehow a racist.[/QUOTE] shut the fuck up you goddamn idiot [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Don't be an ass / telling user to "shut the fuck up you goddamn idiot"" - Swebonny))[/highlight]
why would anyone rate the op [I]funny[/I]?
ABC reporting that the shooter was 24, and was apparently carrying 4 weapons. Take with a grain of salt
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