Queensland child care centres could soon have the ability to reject unvaccinated children
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[QUOTE=cucumber;47323548]According to your logic we all also have to wear full body armor when walking on the streets, because it can happen.[/QUOTE]
well seeing as how the diseases posted are all highly comunicable, walking on the streets with other people is a very bad idea if anyone has anything on that list and you don't have vaccines
[QUOTE=deadoon;47324077]Read that again:
They are limiting damages for literal unforeseeable reactions to something that has been used worldwide with serious adverse side effects being in the per thousand or hundred thousand based on reporting.[/QUOTE]
Even with those statistics, that's around 3189 - 31,890 people harmed per vaccine in the US. And those are just the confirmed cases with serious side effects. Not counting those with more minor side effects. That's more than a good amount of common diseases out there, a lot of which aren't as lethal. (Unless I misread what you said)
[QUOTE=deadoon;47324077]Also, most doctors? Never had one that didn't suggest sitting in the lobby for a half hour to see if I had any reaction.[/QUOTE]
Depends on doctor, and most parents are taught as well that vaccines aren't the issue (through media, news, doctors, so they don't assume the vaccine is the issue either. So it's never brought to attention that their family might have adverse reactions to it.
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Depends on doctor, and most parents are taught as well that vaccines aren't the issue (through media, news, doctors, so they don't assume the vaccine is the issue either. So it's never brought to attention that their family might have adverse reactions to it.[/QUOTE]
people are warned of the usual side affects, the unusual side affects aren't exactly predictable anyway, vaccines are still increadibly safe especially now since doctors have more information available about the scheduling of vaccines
[editline]14th March 2015[/editline]
getting 4 shots at once and your right arm being numb the rest of the day: expected, but pain in the ass
[QUOTE=Stiffy360;47324188]Even with those statistics, that's around 3189 - 31,890 people harmed per vaccine in the US. And those are just the confirmed cases with serious side effects. Not counting those with more minor side effects. That's more than a good amount of common diseases out there, a lot of which aren't as lethal. (Unless I misread what you said)
Depends on doctor, and most parents are taught as well that vaccines aren't the issue (through media, news, doctors, so they don't assume the vaccine is the issue either. So it's never brought to attention that their family might have adverse reactions to it.[/QUOTE]
Per capita is far more important than a raw number, else India would look worse than america in number of murders.
Also I was referring to serious adverse effects as anything beyond "mild" which means they impair the recipient
[url]http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm[/url]
Most vaccines as with most medicines have minor side effects that are non-problematic. Some of the side effects are also the side effects of having an injection in general and are counted due to being part of the procedure.
Like the adenovirus one, which has an incidence rate for moderate reactions of 1 in 100 for 3 different symptoms is for military only.
[QUOTE=cucumber;47323548]According to your logic we all also have to wear full body armor when walking on the streets, because it can happen.[/QUOTE]
Unless you live somewhere that has so many bullets flying around that getting shot without a vest means someone else will also get shot as the bullet flies out the back of you, no. No no no.
[QUOTE=Stiffy360;47323846]It's not what you would call "official data" but the fact it's fairly common around here, (amoung different races even) shows that it should probably be looked into.[/QUOTE]
Why would you bring race into this.....
It's not like the vaccines go "hey this dude is black lets fuck him up"
[QUOTE=cucumber;47321078]Life at risk? really?[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not, life-threatening diseases are life-threatening.
Also so is dumping bleach into your kid's ass but that's a different article.
[QUOTE=Stiffy360;47323813]I wouldn't call a 104 fever for a week plus constant straight screaming (not normal screaming but blood curdling) a "minor" reaction.[/QUOTE]
Ikr, being dead because you're a dense motherfucker for not having the vaccine is a much better alternative.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;47323761]Hey, there's this really cool thing I heard about called "government regulation", it's this radical concept where the government watches over private companies to make sure that they don't fuck around! Amazing, right?[/QUOTE]
Just gonna add to this: TNC's that create vaccines like GSK are actually required by law to publish what's in them
Wow, two antivaxxers on FP. What is the world coming to?
[QUOTE=Solomon;47328289]Wow, two antivaxxers on FP. What is the world coming to?[/QUOTE]
well they seem real busy being torn to shreds at the moment, so the system appears to be working
[QUOTE=Stiffy360;47323813]I wouldn't call a 104 fever for a week plus constant straight screaming (not normal screaming but blood curdling) a "minor" reaction.[/QUOTE]
"My brother had a rare adverse reaction to a vaccine, therefore, vaccines shouldn't be mandatory so that many, many more children can suffer the same, only worse."
[QUOTE=Stiffy360;47323776]If they were eradicated 50 years ago, then why are they an issue today? And if you have a vaccine, then you're covered.
And it's not just beliefs. I know quite a few people who have had kids have severe reactions to the vaccines (mostly after the MMR) right after they were injected. (My brother had a 104 fever for a week after that).
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Haha wowzer. This kind of idiocy actually kills people.
Your brother had a high fever for a week, oh man that's pretty shitty, but imagine if he caught polio and had to live in an iron lung for the rest of his life.
Not sure if anti-vaxxers are just plain stupid or just selfish, I wish there were more laws that prevented anti-vaxxers from schools.
[editline]16th March 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Stiffy360;47323776]If they were eradicated 50 years ago, then why are they an issue today? And if you have a vaccine, then you're covered.
And it's not just beliefs. I know quite a few people who have had kids have severe reactions to the vaccines (mostly after the MMR) right after they were injected. (My brother had a 104 fever for a week after that).
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"And if you have a vaccine, then you're covered." Some people can't get vaccines because of medical reasons... And you probably should treat the fever with meds instead of letting him scream till his throat bleeds; just a tip.
good i wouldnt want to send my children to childcare anyway they could catch autism off the other children
sickens me how people fall for this vaccination thing the cia is giving children autism to keep us citizens down for generations
[QUOTE=Lemmingston;47332864]good i wouldnt want to send my children to childcare anyway they could catch autism off the other children
sickens me how people fall for this vaccination thing the cia is giving children autism to keep us citizens down for generations[/QUOTE]
It's nice to know your geographical knowledge is about as good as your medical knowledge.
[QUOTE=OfficerLamarr;47332874]It's nice to know your geographical knowledge is about as good as your medical knowledge.[/QUOTE]
dude hav you even heard of the 5 eyes agreement???
I feel more oral vaccines would be nice in decreasing overall fear of vaccines.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;47333428]I feel more oral vaccines would be nice in decreasing overall fear of vaccines.[/QUOTE]
Nanopatches beats even that, imagine something like a nicotine patch that you can mail to people that would immunize them against things like polio.
Sorry about your brother stiffy. Not sure why all the hostilities... I live near the Amish they are unvaccinated and never seem to be sick but most importantly I have never seen a retarded or autistic Amish. Just look at rick perry and the HPV vaccine. Ol gov perry passed that law requiring all girls be vaccinated and collected a nice donation. Could it be fluoride in the water causing the problems? I don't know but our kids seem to be more physically and mentally fucked each year.
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