• New York to ban smoking in parks and beaches
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[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;23271308]So you're saying that because you dislikes someones lifestyle, they should be confined to their homes? Ostracized, alienated by their own peers because they share a different standpoint?[/QUOTE] That's the opposite of what I'm saying there brochop
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23269232]Why? I don't go up to people and say "Stop smoking jackass".[/QUOTE] No, you just support essentially doing that behind their backs. People need to fucking lay off smokers, just [U]deal with it. [/U]
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;23271220]:|[/QUOTE] It was a joke...
[QUOTE=Fedalkyn;23271325]Smoking is bad, but freedom of choice is good. Freedom of choice doesn't mean you allow only what your preferences dictate is ok. I smoke occasionally with full knowledge that it is bad, but not life destroying or anything. Tobacco, like alcohol is enjoyable, but is destructive when abused ie: taken in excess or when one is dependent on the substances. If you smoke in moderation or on occasion, you should be fine unless you have a sensitivity. Legislation is because of the fuckwits out there who abuse tobacco.[/QUOTE] Abuse tobacco? You do realize the addictive chemical, nicotine, which is native to the tobacco plant, is the 2nd most addictive chemical on the planet. Only to be triumphed by heroin. They also claim after about 3 cigarettes, the nicotine receptors are fully developed in your brain stem. Tobacco, alcohol, sugar, caffeine, and anything else you can think about.. all contain physical dependencies on it. They're wide open for abuse as well, and they all cause health conditions. There is just too many people here with their narcissistic bullshit, that everyone has to conform to certain ways. They claim smoking is bad (yes it is, I've watched two of my grandparents suffer from lung cancer, and here I am waiting for my moment), but do you realize what else you inhale? Especially in a city like NYC? All that exhaust, the rubber that is thrown into the air. And everything else from the industries, to the buildings heating its occupants. You're pointing a finger at one source, but failing to see the entire picture. [editline]04:15AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Ca5bah;23271375]It was a joke...[/QUOTE] Shit joke [QUOTE=Zeke129;23271360]That's the opposite of what I'm saying there brochop[/QUOTE] I apologize, I totally misread that. But I agree with what you said.. still using that argument for all the others who oppose. [editline]04:18AM[/editline] [QUOTE=NotMeh;23271439]ITT: Smokers bitch because they can't be c00l anymore in public places[/QUOTE] This is why I'm going to light up a cigar and blow it into other peoples cars while we're wasting our lives in rush hour.
ITT: Smokers bitch because they can't be c00l anymore in public places
[QUOTE=NotMeh;23271439]ITT: Smokers bitch because they can't be c00l anymore in public places[/QUOTE] You're retarded. Apparently you are blind and deaf as well; you'd have to be disabled to miss that smokers are portrayed as lepers by the media these days.
[QUOTE=Doriol;23271222]okay second hand smoke is not an immediate threat, and if the smell bothers you, politely ask them to stop or get off your ass and move[/QUOTE] I suggest you shut the fuck up before you start a flame war. and thats exactly what you were doing for the past 12 pages. just fucking accept it. I hate smoking and 2nd hand smoking causes emphysema [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Rusty100))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=RFG1024;23271544]I suggest you shut the fuck up before you start a flame war. and thats exactly what you were doing for the past 12 pages. just fucking accept it. I hate smoking and 2nd hand smoking causes emphysema[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.forces.org/evidence/evid/second.htm[/url] [url]http://www.smokingaloud.com/ets.html[/url] BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[QUOTE=RFG1024;23271544]I hate smoking and 2nd hand smoking causes emphysema[/QUOTE] Could I question where you got this piece of information from?
[QUOTE=radioactive;23271614]Could I question where you got this piece of information from?[/QUOTE] Well he hates it.... If that isn't enough data for you then I don't know what you want.
[QUOTE=Ca5bah;23271526]You're retarded. Apparently you are blind and deaf as well; you'd have to be disabled to miss that smokers are portrayed as lepers by the media these days.[/QUOTE] lol whatever, cry more
[QUOTE=RFG1024;23271544]I suggest you shut the fuck up before you start a flame war. and thats exactly what you were doing for the past 12 pages. just fucking accept it. I hate smoking and 2nd hand smoking causes emphysema[/QUOTE] I recommend you to cease your retarded bullcrap. Stop going off of one source for your claims. If you wish to retain your opinion as a fact, keep it to yourself. Media hype is where you got your information, all based off of crap studies by some C average scientist.
[QUOTE=Ca5bah;23271637]Well he hates it.... If that isn't enough data for you then I don't know what you want.[/QUOTE] No, I'm questioning the emphysema part. First hand smoking just gives you bronchitis, emphysema, a bad cough and makes you poorer. The person I am talking to claims that second hand smoke gives you emphysema. Care to point this out?
[QUOTE=NotMeh;23271649]lol whatever, cry more[/QUOTE] What?
[QUOTE=RFG1024;23271544]I suggest you shut the fuck up before you start a flame war. and thats exactly what you were doing for the past 12 pages. just fucking accept it. I hate smoking and 2nd hand smoking causes emphysema[/QUOTE] Proof that smoking outdoors is dangerous to others please
[quote=zeke129;23271722]proof that smoking outdoors is dangerous to others please[/quote] fox news told me.
wish they did this in my country, you already can't smoke inside cafe's and such [editline]12:44PM[/editline] since i hate smoking and i can't breathe it in at all, it locks my breathing
[QUOTE=D2K5S1;23271752]wish they did this in my country, you already can't smoke inside cafe's and such [editline]12:44PM[/editline] since i hate smoking and i can't breathe it in at all, it locks my breathing[/QUOTE] Some people die if they so much as touch a fragment of a peanut. Should we ban peanut consumption in parks?
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[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;23271790]Technically a better example would be "Should we ban burning peanuts in parks?"[/QUOTE] Fuck yes, I hate when the vendor gives me charred peanuts.
[QUOTE=Doriol;23271196]okay so you seriously think that the government should dictate what you should consume as for the rest of your post, stop being a whiny bitch[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Rct33;23271143]You have no good reasons why they shouldn't ban it. It harms your heath, [B]other peoples health[/B], smells awful and looks horrible.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad this went through. Too bad I don't live in NY.
[QUOTE=Rct33;23271143]You have no good reasons why they shouldn't ban it. It harms your heath, other peoples health, smells awful and looks horrible.[/QUOTE] Oh heres one. Banning anything doesn't work. Regulation always produces better results then bans. [editline]07:07AM[/editline] As far as I'm concerned, smoking is dumb and I hate all the litter that smokers throw out, but this ban shouldn't have went through.
There is many crybabies in this thread. Banning outdoor smoking is retarded.
This is seriously the most retarded thread i've read on facepunch, thanks to both sides of the argument.
[QUOTE=Occlusion;23272635]This is seriously the most retarded thread i've read on facepunch, thanks to both sides of the argument.[/QUOTE] There is no argument, the US government is infringing upon the rights of private citizens. Immoral and unconstitutional.
Doriol has some major problems.
Smoking smells, it effects people around you, and smokers tend to litter. It's a drug, and only legal because of history and culture, like alchohol, do it in your own home and shut the fuck up.
[QUOTE=Ca5bah;23272658]There is no argument, [b]the US government is infringing upon the rights of private citizens.[/b] Immoral and unconstitutional.[/QUOTE] that all sounds well and good till you consider that its also illegal to run naked in a public park. stop fearmongering and include that its the rights of private citizens on public land.
[QUOTE=Takoto;23272699]Smoking smells, it effects people around you, and smokers tend to litter. It's a drug, and only legal because of history and culture, like alchohol, do it in your own home and shut the fuck up.[/QUOTE] Too bad that by all legal reasons smokers OWN said parks and beaches.
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