New York to ban smoking in parks and beaches - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Azur;23292007]I'm pretty sure that's the farmers' duty. [/QUOTE] Somehow I knew a metaphor would be too much. How does one go about debating with a 10 year old mentality?

[QUOTE=Azur;23292027]Says you. You drink water. You don't know how hard it is for those who can't.[/QUOTE] you're right im voting ndp

[QUOTE=Azur;23291878]You're derailing my argument. By your logic, if a small minority of people was allergic to water, we should ban water, even though the majority like it / aren't bothered by it. Smoking is something done by the minority that is not liked by the majority.[/QUOTE] Water is completely necessary to sustaining life, where as peanuts and smoking are not.

[QUOTE=Azur;23291878]You're derailing my argument. By your logic, if a small minority of people was allergic to water, we should ban water, even though the majority like it / aren't bothered by it. Smoking is something done by the minority that is not liked by the majority. [/QUOTE] "Not liked by" is totally fucking different than "fatally allergic to" This rut you're digging is turning into a canyon

[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292034]Smoking is bad[/QUOTE] That's really insightful and informative. Nobody knew this.

[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292034] [IMG]http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3127/1263834782314.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Joke's on you because he did that a couple posts back.

[QUOTE=JoeyZ;23292036]Somehow I knew a metaphor would be too much. How does one go about debating with a 10 year old mentality?[/QUOTE] I'm not sure, maybe it's why I'm struggling at getting you to understand my point.

[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292034]Smoking is bad [img]http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3127/1263834782314.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Banning something because it's "bad" is bad. Fast food is bad for you. Ban Candy is bad for you. Ban Cars that drive faster than 20 miles per hour are bad. Ban

[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;23292063]Cars that drive faster than 20 miles per hour are bad. Ban[/QUOTE] We have speed limits, so why not have smoking limits?

[QUOTE=Azur;23292061]I'm not sure, maybe it's why I'm struggling at getting you to understand my point.[/QUOTE] Let's not fling mud. [QUOTE=Azur;23292099]We have speed limits, so why not have smoking limits?[/QUOTE] You're implying that second hand smoke is as dangerous as a 2 ton piece of metal going 20 miles an hour.

[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;23292063]Fast food is bad for you. Ban[/quote] makes you obese if you eat it a lot. won't kill you unless you're an addict. [QUOTE=T2L_Goose;23292063]Candy is bad for you. Ban[/quote] candy rots your teeth. doesn't kill. [QUOTE=T2L_Goose;23292063]Cars that drive faster than 20 miles per hour are bad. Ban[/QUOTE] depends on the driver, not the car. if you are not a jackass on the road, it doesn't kill. Smoking, on the other hand, kills pretty fast.

[QUOTE=JoeyZ;23292107]Let's not fling mud.[/QUOTE] Yes, maybe you should stop.

[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292118]depends on the driver, not the car. if you are not a jackass on the road, it doesn't kill. Smoking, on the other hand, kills pretty fast.[/QUOTE] Did you just try to say that smoking kills you faster than a car accident why would how did what are dude

I support this. :D Good job New York

[QUOTE=JoeyZ;23292107]Let's not fling mud. You're implying that second hand smoke is as dangerous as a 2 ton piece of metal going 20 miles an hour.[/QUOTE] No I'm not. I'm saying we have limits on dangerous things.

I've lived with a smoker my whole fucking life, my mom. It's fucking annoying, I wish they'd ban smoking all together. Anyone who supports smoking must be just plain stupid.

[QUOTE=Azur;23292174]No I'm not. I'm saying we have limits on dangerous things.[/QUOTE] The limit needs to be proportionate to the danger.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;23292164]Did you just try to say that smoking kills you faster than a car accident why would how did what are dude[/QUOTE] Just check his age and it all make sense.

[QUOTE=zerothefallen;23292187]It's fucking annoying, I wish they'd ban smoking all together. Anyone who supports smoking must be just plain stupid.[/QUOTE] Should we ban alcohol too? Drunks can get pretty violent and start hurting others.

[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292118]depends on the driver, not the car. if you are not a jackass on the road, it doesn't kill. Smoking, on the other hand, kills pretty fast.[/QUOTE] I don't even know where to start with you. Dying by cancer is a slow and horrible process in most cases. Being hit by a car moving at 60 miles an hour can be instant.

[QUOTE=Azur;23292198]I don't even know where to start with you. Dying by cancer is a slow and horrible process in most cases. Being hit by a car moving at 60 miles an hour can be instant.[/QUOTE] So your argument is that because getting hit by a car practically explodes you into chunks it's much safer than smoking which can cause tumours?

[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292118]makes you obese if you eat it a lot. won't kill you unless you're an addict. candy rots your teeth. doesn't kill. depends on the driver, not the car. if you are not a jackass on the road, it doesn't kill. Smoking, on the other hand, kills pretty fast.[/QUOTE] No, it actually kills pretty slowly.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;23292196]Should we ban alcohol too? Drunks can get pretty violent and start hurting others.[/QUOTE] Yes [QUOTE=Azur;23292198]I don't even know where to start with you. Dying by cancer is a slow and horrible process in most cases. Being hit by a car moving at 60 miles an hour [b]can[/b] be instant.[/QUOTE] Emphasis on bold part. "Can" doesn't mean "always"

[QUOTE=zerothefallen;23292187]I've lived with a smoker my whole fucking life, my mom. It's fucking annoying, I wish they'd ban smoking all together. Anyone who supports smoking must be just plain stupid.[/QUOTE] Anyone who wants to ban smoking is a controlling asshole who can't deal with the fact that other people have rights that you will just have to deal with. Lots of shit is "annoying", but that's not grounds for banning something. Your stupid anime avatar is annoying. There needs to be a law against it.

[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292227]Yes[/QUOTE] Should we ban over-the-counter painkillers? People can accidentally overdose and die!

[QUOTE=Zeke129;23292196]Should we ban alcohol too? Drunks can get pretty violent and start hurting others.[/QUOTE] I haven't actually even met a drunk person that i can think of, so i can't put my opinion on that. Also goose stop being a smart ass. I'm PRETTY SURE there is a difference between smoking and liking anime. You're probably a smoker who is arguing with me so you can continue smoking.

[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292227]Yes[/QUOTE] Have you ever heard of prohibition?

[QUOTE=zerothefallen;23292244]I haven't actually even met a drunk person that i can think of, so i can't put my opinion on that.[/QUOTE] Then you're letting your emotions get in the way of logic.

[QUOTE=Azur;23292137]Yes, maybe you should stop.[/QUOTE] :irony:

[QUOTE=Azur;23291714]You're missing the part where I said anyone who breaths in smoke will drop dead on the spot.[/QUOTE] No, but you seem to think anyone who breathes in smoke will have a coughing fit like you do. Anyone could walk through park after park after park completely full of cigarette smokers every day for the rest of their life and most likely would not be ill affected by it at all.