• New York to ban smoking in parks and beaches
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I've always wondered...we have the right to Life, Liberty and Pursuit of happiness in the USA...can we sue smokers for taking away our right to healthy lives from their smoke? :P
Are you guys still fucking arguing about this shit? Jesus christ. Here's a novel idea. Keep your opinions to yourselves. If you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO, post it but don't get riled up when someone disagrees. To the others, if someone posts an opinion you disagree with, just say so. "I disagree", or better yet, say nothing at all.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;23292245]Have you ever heard of prohibition?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292227]Yes[/QUOTE] They should've kept it in place. Who gives a shit if people resist. Arrest them. [QUOTE=Ghostz;23292283]I've always wondered...we have the right to Life, Liberty and Pursuit of happiness in the [b]USA[/b]...can we sue smokers for taking away our right to healthy lives from their smoke? :P[/QUOTE] Bolded part is the problem
[QUOTE=zerothefallen;23292187] Anyone who supports smoking must be just plain stupid.[/QUOTE] I never thought of that. On second thought, I don't support this anymore. I don't want to be stupid.
Hey I have an idea if you're allergic to smokers smoke maybe you should protect yourself instead of just wanting to take away other peoples freedoms. Wear a face mask when going to questionable areas.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;23292286]Are you guys still fucking arguing about this shit? Jesus christ. Here's a novel idea. Keep your opinions to yourselves. If you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO, post it but don't get riled up when someone disagrees. To the others, if someone posts an opinion you disagree with, just say so. "I disagree", or better yet, say nothing at all.[/QUOTE] Saying nothing is hardly conducive to the forum atmosphere.
How about this, guys? If someone can prove that second hand smoke is harmful outdoors, and that it's [I]way too hard[/I] to just avoid a smoker if they make you uncomfortable, then we'll end the conversation. So far nobody's done either of those.
[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292289]They should've kept it in place. Who gives a shit if people resist. Arrest them. [/QUOTE] hahahahaha
[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292289]They should've kept it in place. Who gives a shit if people resist. Arrest them. Bolded part is the problem[/QUOTE] Oh dear, nine year old authoritarian incoming
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;23292302]Hey I have an idea if you're allergic to smokers smoke maybe you should protect yourself instead of just wanting to take away other peoples freedoms. Wear a face mask when going to questionable areas.[/QUOTE] Here, guys, watch this. Here's an example. I disagree with your opinion sir. Holy shit look at that. [editline]10:31PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;23292305]Saying nothing is hardly conducive to the forum atmosphere.[/QUOTE] And on the flip side of the coin arguing like ninnies is worse.
[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292289]They should've kept it in place. Who gives a shit if people resist. Arrest them.[/QUOTE] You should move to North Korea. You'd fit right in.
[QUOTE=Azur;23291878]You're derailing my argument. By your logic, if a small minority of people was allergic to water, we should ban water, even though the majority like it / aren't bothered by it. Smoking is something done by the minority that is not liked by the majority.[/QUOTE] Wot Okay. You're a minority when it comes to people that are even remotely affected by second-hand cigarette smoke (ie your rib-breaking fits that only YOU experience). No one gets cancer from it unless they're hotboxed 24/7, so that's obviously not the issue at hand.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;23292318]Here, guys, watch this. Here's an example. I disagree with your opinion sir. Holy shit look at that.[/quote] Why do you disagree though? Let us discuss. [QUOTE=Telepethi;23292318]And on the flip side of the coin arguing like ninnies is worse.[/QUOTE] Oh no someone is leaving messages on a message board I must stop this
[QUOTE=Zeke129;23292189]The limit needs to be proportionate to the danger.[/QUOTE] 440,000 people die a year from smoking and smoking related diseases, yet only 60,955 die from accidents involving cars.
I'm still going to stand on smoking should be banned from ALL public places and private too.
[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292289]They should've kept it in place. Who gives a shit if people resist. Arrest them. Bolded part is the problem[/QUOTE] Hahahaaaa You make Azur look like Socrates. Edit: [QUOTE=zerothefallen;23292358]I'm still going to stand on smoking should be banned from ALL public places and private too.[/QUOTE] Both of you
[QUOTE=gnome;23292341]Wot Okay. You're a minority when it comes to people that are even remotely affected by second-hand cigarette smoke (ie your rib-breaking fits that only YOU experience). No one gets cancer from it unless they're hotboxed 24/7, so that's obviously not the issue at hand.[/QUOTE] Azur fails to realize that the vast majority of people who breathe second-hand smoke don't shoot their ribs out of their chest.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;23292318]Here, guys, watch this. Here's an example. I disagree with your opinion sir. Holy shit look at that. [/QUOTE] It's a debate you schmuck.
I'm always for non-smoking places, but having that in parks and beaches is just dumb.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;23292286]Are you guys still fucking arguing about this shit? Jesus christ. Here's a novel idea. Keep your opinions to yourselves. If you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO, post it but don't get riled up when someone disagrees. To the others, if someone posts an opinion you disagree with, just say so. "I disagree", or better yet, say nothing at all.[/QUOTE] It's not beyond logic to get in a heated debate over something important that's possibly being legislated.
[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292289]They should've kept it in place. Who gives a shit if people resist. Arrest them. [/QUOTE] :gonk:
[QUOTE=creefer;23292338]You should move to North Korea. You'd fit right in.[/QUOTE] Because wanting the country to do something means you want to move to a dictatorship
[QUOTE=zerothefallen;23292358]I'm still going to stand on smoking should be banned from ALL public places and private too.[/QUOTE] take it easy there Hitler.
[QUOTE=Azur;23292354]440,000 people die a year from smoking and smoking related diseases, yet only 60,955 die from accidents involving cars.[/QUOTE] How many people die of second hand smoke? How many people die of bad diet?
[QUOTE=Azur;23292354]440,000 people die a year from smoking and smoking related diseases, yet only 60,955 die from accidents involving cars.[/QUOTE] That's because people avoid the big noisy metal things flying down the highway yet people just stand in a smoky room and bitch about it. I want stats that show second-hand smoke deaths ONLY for it to be an accurate comparison.
[QUOTE=Azur;23292354]440,000 people die a year from smoking and smoking related diseases, yet only 60,955 die from accidents involving cars.[/QUOTE] I'll bet you anything that less than .1% of those 440,000 people died from second-hand cigarette smoke. (I'd guess 0%, but I'm leaving a tiny margin of error based on the possibility of freak circumstances)
[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292401]Because wanting the country to do something means you want to move to a dictatorship[/QUOTE] Come back when you've been to 9th grade history and read your posts.
[QUOTE=Sonicfan574;23292401]Because wanting the country to do something means you want to move to a dictatorship[/QUOTE] Jesus christ.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;23292371]Azur fails to realize that the vast majority of people who breathe second-hand smoke don't shoot their ribs out of their chest.[/QUOTE] Zeke fails to reali[b]s[/b]e that the vast majority of what I was saying was replies to people asking for specifics rather than generalisations.
Goose knows shit and I'm a hypocrite in this post.
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