• New York woman holding baby falls from 8th floor to her death; baby survives
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[QUOTE=Shadaez;39918750] wow you guys managed to find a way to blame the woman[/QUOTE] Sexist pigs! Or maybe they're just trying to think of a way where nobody is at fault?
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[QUOTE=Trogdon;39918802]Cool suicide joke[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=AK'z;39919670]murder-suicide, that's not cool.[/QUOTE] I think he thought she slipped or something, wasn't being a dick or making a joke.
When I first saw the title I thought it was going to be something like the apartment was on fire or whatever.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39918750]wow you guys managed to find a way to blame the woman[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]A New York police spokesman confirmed that the woman left behind a suicide note.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]"I came home, they were arguing," Johnson told WPIX. "I actually stopped to listen, and I heard screaming and the baby was crying. He just kept saying why wouldn't you pick up the phone, why would you put that stress on me? [B]Why wouldn't you pick up the phone[/B], why, why? He was screaming, 'why, why'?"[/QUOTE] To me it doesn't sound like it was the mans fault. And I have overheard something similar between my mother and her last boyfriend.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;39920365]To me it doesn't sound like it was the mans fault. And I have overheard something similar between my mother and her last boyfriend.[/QUOTE] So not answering a phone means you should be SCREAMED at? Sounds abusive. Like he thought she might be out cheating or something. If he was angry because she thought she had killed herself I think he might show a little compassion.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39920388]So not answering a phone means you should be SCREAMED at? Sounds abusive. Like he thought she might be out cheating or something. If he was angry because she thought she had killed herself I think he might show a little compassion.[/QUOTE] Could we please stop jumping to conclusions? There's no evidence that supports an abusive relationship, and there's no evidence that she was hounding her husband with suicide threats or the like. All we know is that she killed herself (which is very sad and unfortunate) and tried to take the child with her (which is absolutely horrible), and I think we should leave it at that until we have more to go on. I wonder if they will release the suicide note. [editline]15th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Shadaez;39920388]So not answering a phone means you should be SCREAMED at? Sounds abusive. Like he thought she might be out cheating or something. If he was angry because she thought she had killed herself I think he might show a little compassion.[/QUOTE] Oh and when people are stressed anger is the first expressed emotion. When my stress levels become to high I just respond in pure anger. This is also why your mother was mad at you for being out for too long as a child when in reality she was just happy you were back.
Didn't even watch the video, my bad. I thought it was just a picture. It mentions she had post-partem depression, which does make the jump to her thinking about suicide a lot more rational. I'm sorry. [QUOTE=G-Strogg;39920510]Also explains why she tried to take the baby with her.[/QUOTE] how?
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39920497]Didn't even watch the video, my bad. I thought it was just a picture. It mentions she had post-partem depression, which does make the jump to her thinking about suicide a lot more rational. I'm sorry.[/QUOTE] Also explains why she tried to take the baby with her.
fell?? you don't just 'fall' when you leave behind a suicide note. the cunt [b]jumped[/b] and now leaves behind her child to grow up without a mother GG
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39918606]The alternative is leaving the baby with an abusive husband who literally drove you to suicide so I can see that, poor woman. It must be an awful situation that you decide to take you and your child's life. I'm empathizing not saying what she did was OK.[/QUOTE] How the hell did you come to the conclusion her husband was abusive from the article. [QUOTE]Earlier, neighbor said he heard yelling coming from the woman's apartment before she fell.[/QUOTE] Every single couple has an argument sometimes doesn't mean he was abusive in any way. [B]Edit[/B]: Just read your post at the bottom of page 1. Still assuming he was abusive straight away shows you automatically assume the worst in people
Wow doesn't any one read the source, its suicide. So, fuck this woman.
I have no sympathy. Go ahead and kill yourself, don't try to kill another person along with you, let alone a baby.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39918750]I didn't say it was OK, I'm understanding what she was thinking. yeah because if it's at that point he should be yelling at her right [editline]14th March 2013[/editline] wow you guys managed to find a way to blame the woman[/QUOTE] Meanwhile you make it sound like the guy gave her a hearty shove into the fall. The truth is we don't know shit.
So wait she was trying to kill the baby? for fuck sake, are these people so damn short sighted, get a fucking abortion if you know you cant take care of a child. its easy, shove an electric blender into the uterus then squeeze that shit out like tooth paste. Or as an alternative, sell the child up for adoption if you cant handle it.
[QUOTE=tdnoob;39921113]How the hell did you come to the conclusion her husband was abusive from the article. Every single couple has an argument sometimes doesn't mean he was abusive in any way. [B]Edit[/B]: Just read your post at the bottom of page 1. Still assuming he was abusive straight away shows you automatically assume the worst in people[/QUOTE] The reason being not answering a phone call, shows control issues, a common factor with abusive people.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39921801]The reason being not answering a phone call, shows control issues, a common factor with abusive people.[/QUOTE] So being worried == control issues?
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39921801]The reason being not answering a phone call, shows control issues, a common factor with abusive people.[/QUOTE] If everyone I ever yelled at killed themselves, there would be many many dead people today. You can assume he abused her previously, just as you can assume she was being suicidal before, putting the guy into a situation which would send many hysterical. I presume there will be investigation, and it would be fair to everyone involved to not to outright judge people when you don't really know what happened.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;39922010]If everyone I ever yelled at killed themselves, there would be many many dead people today. You can assume he abused her previously, just as you can assume she was being suicidal before, putting the guy into a situation which would send many hysterical. I presume there will be investigation, and it would be fair to everyone involved to not to outright judge people when you don't really know what happened.[/QUOTE] I was explaining how I came to the conclusion, it makes sense. If you're in a healthy relationship w/ someone you don't scream at them for missing a call so loud that your neighbors can hear you. It scares me that you guys think that that's how you show you're worried about people.
[QUOTE]why would you put that stress on me? [/QUOTE] I can't help but wonder what the woman had been doing.
hi heres abuse 101 4 u [IMG]http://puu.sh/2i7qQ[/IMG] as you can see, acting controlling is a sign of abuse, as is yelling, as is blaming for abusive behavior (why would YOU do this to me / why wouldn't you answer), as is constantly checking up on you (calling) those are the facts we know here are the facts you're making up to support your argument: shes threatening to commit suicide hmm sounds like the man's abusive to me, based on the facts edit: I should say instead based on the facts it's not hard to assume he was abusive instead so you guys don't make something out of nothing
Maybe it's just me, but if a woman jumps out an 8 story window with a baby in her arms, my first inclination isn't going to be to think "I think it's the guy's fault, he's obviously the one doing something wrong." Yelling....jumping....yelling...jumping, yeah I'm gonna have to say the jumper is the fuckup here no matter what the other circumstances are. Incidental facts that the woman was a 45 year old lawyer, with a 10 month old baby, only reinforces that impression. A baby adds a lot of stress to your life, and while modern science makes having a kid an option for woman later in life it's not ideal. Health issues are only the beginning.
[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;39918589]most likely i read somewhere that she thought her baby's future didn't look very bright obviously she thought wrong[/QUOTE] Well now it's definitely bright for her at the end of the tunnel.
let the babies hit the floor. let the babies hit the floor.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39922041]I was explaining how I came to the conclusion, it makes sense. If you're in a healthy relationship w/ someone you don't scream at them for missing a call so loud that your neighbors can hear you. It scares me that you guys think that that's how you show you're worried about people.[/QUOTE] Frustration and psychosis is a thing, you know? It's easy for you to say what's the right way to do when you aren't in his shoes. It's pretty damn obvious [I]something[/I] wasn't right when she killed herself, but I don't find it any better to demonize him than to demonize her.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39922041]I was explaining how I came to the conclusion, it makes sense. If you're in a healthy relationship w/ someone you don't scream at them for missing a call so loud that your neighbors can hear you. It scares me that you guys think that that's how you show you're worried about people.[/QUOTE] I appreciate your concern that abuse could've been involved but I think the fact that you seemingly presented it as fact in your first post is what up set most people in here. I'm not in anyway trying to justify him yelling at her but I just don't think it was right of you to assume it was him being abusive so quickly. Even people in healthy relationships have arguements from time to time.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39922041]I was explaining how I came to the conclusion, it makes sense. If you're in a healthy relationship w/ someone you don't scream at them for missing a call so loud that your neighbors can hear you. It scares me that you guys think that that's how you show you're worried about people.[/QUOTE] Having a kid is stressful, period. You can assume the dad was abusive just as easily as I can assume that he was a sleep deprived zombie, who was emotionally drained from the moms post partum depression.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39922163]hi heres abuse 101 4 u [IMG]http://puu.sh/2i7qQ[/IMG] as you can see, acting controlling is a sign of abuse, as is yelling, as is blaming for abusive behavior (why would YOU do this to me / why wouldn't you answer), as is constantly checking up on you (calling) those are the facts we know here are the facts you're making up to support your argument: shes threatening to commit suicide hmm sounds like the man's abusive to me, based on the facts edit: I should say instead based on the facts it's not hard to assume he was abusive instead so you guys don't make something out of nothing[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]as is constantly checking up on you as is yelling [/QUOTE] I guess that makes my father abusive too. And my sister. And me. All that for being worried. There were a part of the article you might have missed. [QUOTE]He was [B]screaming[/B], 'why, why'?"[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=screaming]Give a long, loud, piercing cry or cries expressing excitement, great emotion, or pain[/QUOTE] You know what happens when you don't know where someone you love are, and you can't comtact them? You get worried. Also, that picture, could we have a source?
What a bitch.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;39928422]What a bitch.[/QUOTE] blaming the victim wow good job bud
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