• SAS Troops Riding Quads Are Killing "Eight Jihadis a Day"
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[QUOTE=chayhaus;46557118]Meh, sounds unfounded...and even if it is true it's a pretty terrible thing to be proud of.[/QUOTE] The conclusions you have drawn are wholly disconnected from reality. We all yearn for a world without wars. As Ronald Reagan once said, "peace is the greatest aspiration of the American people." We must not allow for our dreams to blind us from the truth. The truth is that there is a band of terrorists in Iraq and Syria that indiscriminately murders and subjugates all who would challenge their reign, and even those who would not. The truth is that the Iraqis cannot handle them. The truth is that regardless of the number of rallies for peace we hold today, ISIS will still be there tomorrow. The truth is that we, most of us being from Western nations, have an obligation to the world to defend those who are weak against those who are strong but lawless and unprincipled. A belief in peace and love and compassion is admirable, but beliefs should be reconciled with reality, and when reality differs from what we believe it ought to be, that which must be done to attain a world that we all desire must be done unabashedly.
[QUOTE=Jsm;46557374]The article is probably complete bullshit (numbers, the people involved, the quads etc) but there is probably some SF on the ground doing something similar.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say they are killing 8 terrorists a day. But they could quite possibly be using quads. They are fast, all terrain, and with a machine gun/sniper rifle they can easily pick off anyone and quickly drive away to a heli pick up. Brits and US used dirt bikes during the first gulf war.
This is what founded the SAS, if in WW2 it was assaulting Luftwaffe and Afrika Corps convoys in the desert its now doing the same but against ISIS. Loving it
[QUOTE=Neusspray;46558015]Being a [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1425592&p=46021618&viewfull=1#post46021618"]certified racist[/URL] myself, I can tell you that none of those comments are racist. "raghead" isn't related to race, it's referring to the middle eastern culture of wearing towels on your head, which is done for practical reasons (keeping cool, prevent sun burn, etc). If they used the term "sand niggers" or something to that effect, that would be racist.[/QUOTE] The "rag," as you call it, is a part of their culture, and their culture is derived from their ethnicity. You can argue semantics all you want, and you can (as you have in the past) use bullshit statistics, but at the end of the day, you are a racist. Please stop trying to justify it. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("derailing" - Orkel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Articsledder;46557952]reminds me of these guys from WW2 [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mTMQLK2nStQ/U5myOwbibbI/AAAAAAAACd0/yWsrkoLZALA/s1600/Ultimate+Collection+Of+Rare+Historical+Photos.+A+Big+Piece+Of+History+(200+Pictures)+-+SAS+soldiers.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] except those manliest of men did their job in this [t]http://miliblog.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/in-service-80s-landies/land-rover-s2-109-sas-pink-panther-10-fg-31.jpg[/t] [editline]23rd November 2014[/editline] damnit i'm late on that
[QUOTE=Sableye;46558138]except those manliest of men did their job in this [t]http://miliblog.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/in-service-80s-landies/land-rover-s2-109-sas-pink-panther-10-fg-31.jpg[/t] [editline]23rd November 2014[/editline] damnit i'm late on that[/QUOTE] I bet that thing was damn near invisible in the sand from a distance
[QUOTE=Bobie;46557234][img]http://u.cubeupload.com/aura/9XpApU.png[/img] these articles are the best to find out who on facebook is a closet racist[/QUOTE] islam is not a race [highlight](User was banned for this post ("derailing" - Orkel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=przemo;46558308]islam is not a race[/QUOTE] "Raghead" comes from turbans, which are worn by more than Muslims.
[QUOTE=Articsledder;46557952]reminds me of these guys from WW2 [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mTMQLK2nStQ/U5myOwbibbI/AAAAAAAACd0/yWsrkoLZALA/s1600/Ultimate+Collection+Of+Rare+Historical+Photos.+A+Big+Piece+Of+History+(200+Pictures)+-+SAS+soldiers.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I always think of Paddy Mayne instead [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/The_Special_Air_Service_during_the_Second_World_War_MH24415.jpg[/img] This was a guy who reputedly went to pubs and on several occassions challenged everyone to a fight and kicked their asses, who played in international rugby for Ireland, who in WW2 struck his commanding officer and then got drafted into the SAS at its beginning, and then in one of his operations with them he singlehandedly destroyed 100~ aircraft in a raid (everyone else combined destroyed 300, and 200-300 Italians were killed), and I quote: "on occassion even ripping out cockpit controls with his bare hands". After that he became a pillar of the regiment with some extraordinary displays of leadership and feats of bravery, but has never received a V.C despite people calling for it then and even now.
[QUOTE=PolarEventide;46558333]"Raghead" comes from turbans, which are worn by more than Muslims.[/QUOTE] How does that prove that islam is a race?
[QUOTE=przemo;46558308]islam is not a race[/QUOTE] you'll grasp at any little thing just to make you not sound like a racist
[QUOTE=toaster468;46558480]How does that prove that islam is a race?[/QUOTE] That wasn't my intention. Islam isn't a race, of course. But his remarks were in response to a comment that he perceived to be about Islam which was deemed "racist" by the poster he quoted. His argument that "Islam isn't a race" is irrelevant, because the post he was responding to was not about Islam.
[QUOTE=PolarEventide;46558117]The "rag," as you call it, is a part of their culture, and their culture is derived from their ethnicity. You can argue semantics all you want, and you can (as you have in the past) use bullshit statistics, but at the end of the day, you are a racist. Please stop trying to justify it.[/QUOTE] 1. I did not call it a "rag", I called it a "towel". 2. Race has nothing to do with it, calling it racist makes you racist as you immediately associate it with ethnicity. Also all the comments were talking about terrorists specifically, "raghead" could just just as well mean balaclava. Apparently it's only racist when stereotyping non-whites. Limey, yank, Brit != racist. Raghead, Jap, Paki = racist. FFS, two of those are just shortened versions of nationalities, nothing at all to do with race/culture.
[QUOTE=Neusspray;46558527] Also all the comments were talking about terrorists specifically, "raghead" could just just as well mean balaclava. [/QUOTE] it obviously wasnt though, how dense can you be?
Racism isn't just about races and today when someone uses the term raghead he is most certainly using it with racist intent. You people should find out the meanings behind words before you start arguing over bullshit semantics.
[QUOTE=Neusspray;46558527]1. I did not call it a "rag", I called it a "towel". 2. Race has nothing to do with it, calling it racist makes you racist as you immediately associate it with ethnicity. Also all the comments were talking about terrorists specifically, "raghead" could just just as well mean balaclava. Apparently it's only racist when stereotyping non-whites. Limey, yank, Brit != racist. Raghead, Jap, Paki = racist. FFS, two of those are just shortened versions of nationalities, nothing at all to do with race/culture.[/QUOTE] It is racist, but I'll humour you for a moment. The term "raghead" is still derogatory and rude, and you wouldn't be defending its use unless you find it acceptable. Also, yes, I am sure that as a white male in Britain, you are stereotyped and discriminated against.
[QUOTE=chayhaus;46557118]Meh, sounds unfounded...and even if it is true it's a pretty terrible thing to be proud of.[/QUOTE] Well what you rather happen, SAS kill 200 in a month, or ISIS kills over a thousand innocent men, women, and children because they are not Sunni in a day.
[QUOTE=chayhaus;46557118]Meh, sounds unfounded...and even if it is true it's a pretty terrible thing to be proud of.[/QUOTE] Actually no, killing members of a terrorist organization that's an enemy to the entire civilized world and has been murdering thousands of innocent people for months now is something that all members of the human race with common sense and a desire to see their planet remain a civilized place should be applauding. Were you one of those stooges who bitched about how it was "wrong" to celebrate the killing of bin Laden? Killing can be good. Killing in this situation is good. And that's how simple it is. This is actually one of those times when a Quran quote is really relevant, in an ironic sense especially for ISIS: [i]"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you."[/i]
[QUOTE=Govna;46559161]Actually no, killing members of a terrorist organization that's an enemy to the entire civilized world and has been murdering thousands of innocent people for months now is something that all members of the human race with common sense and a desire to see their planet remain a civilized place should be applauding. Were you one of those stooges who bitched about how it was "wrong" to celebrate the killing of bin Laden? Killing can be good. Killing in this situation is good. And that's how simple it is. This is actually one of those times when a Quran quote is really relevant, in an ironic sense especially for ISIS: [i]"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you."[/i][/QUOTE] I wouldn't go so far as to say "killing can be good", having to kill anyone is actually rather unfortunate. Even more unfortunate though is that it's come to this.
[QUOTE=MrBob1337;46557109]This is better than bombing the supply lines and inevitably hitting a truck full of Iraqi citizens on accident.[/QUOTE] I feel like a few guys in a truck/atv is cheaper than a billion dollar jet dropping million dollar bombs that can only be used once and have no resale value.
BRITTANIA RULE THE DUNES
[QUOTE=cqbcat;46559211]I feel like a few guys in a truck/atv is cheaper than a billion dollar jet dropping million dollar bombs that can only be used once and have no resale value.[/QUOTE] But that is exactly what he said. [editline]23rd November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Zero-Point;46559206]I wouldn't go so far as to say "killing can be good", having to kill anyone is actually rather unfortunate. Even more unfortunate though is that it's come to this.[/QUOTE] Killing/removing someone who you class as bad makes the part that you class as good relatively larger. Even if you disagree with the statement of "killing can be good" it is hard to ignore that killing someone who you class as bad will bring about good.
[QUOTE=deadoon;46559238]Killing/removing someone who you class as bad makes the part that you class as good relatively larger. Even if you disagree with the statement of "killing can be good" it is hard to ignore that killing someone who you class as bad will bring about good.[/QUOTE] You realize ISIS rolls with precisely that same thought process, right?
[QUOTE=viperfan7;46558173]I bet that thing was damn near invisible in the sand from a distance[/QUOTE] it was the result of a very thurough study on what shades the human eye can detect, turns out its damn near impossible to see in low-light and at distances
I can smell the propaganda coming out of this news article.
[QUOTE=capital;46559228]BRITTANIA RULE THE DUNES[/QUOTE] now if they can work on summoning them sand-worms, our victory will be all but assured [editline]23rd November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Neusspray;46558527]1. I did not call it a "rag", I called it a "towel". 2. Race has nothing to do with it, calling it racist makes you racist as you immediately associate it with ethnicity. Also all the comments were talking about terrorists specifically, "raghead" could just just as well mean balaclava. Apparently it's only racist when stereotyping non-whites. Limey, yank, Brit != racist. Raghead, Jap, Paki = racist. FFS, two of those are just shortened versions of nationalities, nothing at all to do with race/culture.[/QUOTE] its called a turban, and its a piece of garb worn by many cultures throughout history besides arabic muslims, and more over calling a person a rag-head or towel-head shows the level of ignorance one has about human cultures
Going to get yelled at but you guys know that encouraging violence is fucking disgusting right? There's encouraging duty to defend your livelihood then there's shit like this: [QUOTE=Starlight 456;46557154]It's a terrible thing to be proud of killing 8 terrorists a day? What planet are you living on where this is something you [i]wouldn't[/i] be proud of?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Dirty_Ape;46557123]It's also more manly and cool.[/QUOTE] Killing should never be encouraged, it should be treated as an ugly necessity, not the subject of a perverse fantasy of masculinity. If you have to mentally rationalize it by thinking yourself manly just to keep going then that's fine, but I seriously doubt anyone here has had to kill someone, ergo this glorification of ending someone else's life is fucking abhorrent. I get it ISIS is bad, literal terrorists etc. etc., but dehumanizing and undermining the depth of what you are goading is sickening to say the least. My 2 cents, have at me.
[QUOTE=chayhaus;46557118]Meh, sounds unfounded...and even if it is true it's a pretty terrible thing to be proud of.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;-GvkyKEYRnM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GvkyKEYRnM[/video] [B]'ERE WE GO! 'ERE WE GO! 'ERE WE GO![/B] [video=youtube;vBKBI7DOLHA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBKBI7DOLHA[/video]
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46559999]a majority of fpers laugh and mock early supporters of the iraq war, yet display the same fervor for conflict as we did in 2001[/QUOTE] These aren't really comparable conflicts tbh Saddam wasn't really doing anything back in 2003 unlike back in the 90's, he just got on the wrong side of the American's ISIS on the other hand are rolling around murdering civilians left, right and centre along with threatening terrorist attacks on the west. It's not exactly uncalled for intervention.
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