SAS Troops Riding Quads Are Killing "Eight Jihadis a Day"
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[QUOTE=Zero-Point;46559664]You realize ISIS rolls with precisely that same thought process, right?[/QUOTE]
Yes. Except their thought process revolves around Islamic terrorism and religious fanaticism which is resulting in them murdering thousands of innocent people just because they don't have the same religious beliefs and political beliefs. Our thought process doesn't; it results in us killing thousands of members of ISIS.
The philosophy of all this is irrelevant; fact is, it's not acceptable to murder innocent people just because they aren't as religiously extreme as you and your friends are in their politics. "Who says so?" We say so, and we have the power and will to enforce our view against theirs.
[QUOTE=Govna;46560297]Yes. Except their thought process revolves around Islamic terrorism and religious fanaticism which is resulting in them murdering thousands of innocent people just because they don't have the same religious beliefs and political beliefs. Our thought process doesn't; it results in us killing thousands of members of ISIS.
The philosophy of all this is irrelevant; fact is, it's not acceptable to murder innocent people just because they aren't as religiously extreme as you and your friends are in their politics. "Who says so?" We say so, and we have the power and will to enforce our view against theirs.[/QUOTE]
so does that make ISIS correct compared to the moderates that they're slaughtering?
???
you can argue for your moral system without saying "fuck you i have a bigger dick so listen to me"
Probably more like "7 Jihadis and one we mistook for a Jihadi"
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;46560131]These aren't really comparable conflicts tbh
Saddam wasn't really doing anything back in 2003 unlike back in the 90's, he just got on the wrong side of the American's
ISIS on the other hand are rolling around murdering civilians left, right and centre along with threatening terrorist attacks on the west. It's not exactly uncalled for intervention.[/QUOTE]
Saddam was still killing kurds and his own citizens that protested his rule in the 2000's
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;46560131]These aren't really comparable conflicts tbh
Saddam wasn't really doing anything back in 2003 unlike back in the 90's, he just got on the wrong side of the American's
ISIS on the other hand are rolling around murdering civilians left, right and centre along with threatening terrorist attacks on the west. It's not exactly uncalled for intervention.[/QUOTE]
I think the only rationel that has stood the test of time was that he knowingly let AQ setup camps in iraq, them when we went after them he refused to let us, so someone made up nuclear weapons scare, the chemical weapons he did have we knew that from documented cases of their use, even if the stockpile was gone by the time we took over
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;46559664]You realize ISIS rolls with precisely that same thought process, right?[/QUOTE]
I am actually well aware of that.
That is the reason why I said "someone you class as bad" and "someone you class as good".
Good and bad/evil are perspectives.
[QUOTE=Govna;46560297]Yes. Except their thought process revolves around Islamic terrorism and religious fanaticism which is resulting in them murdering thousands of innocent people just because they don't have the same religious beliefs and political beliefs. Our thought process doesn't; it results in us killing thousands of members of ISIS.
The philosophy of all this is irrelevant; fact is, it's not acceptable to murder innocent people just because they aren't as religiously extreme as you and your friends are in their politics. "Who says so?" We say so, and we have the power and will to enforce our view against theirs.[/QUOTE]
You on the other hand missed the fact that I worded it perfectly, so that it is applicable to everyone.
They believe that they are the "good" and that those they kill are the "bad".
The belief it being acceptable or not is determined by the individual. They believe it is acceptable, otherwise would not be doing it.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46560734]bin laden assisted in the murder of 3000+ americans on american soil and permanent damage to our reputation
didn't make it right then either[/QUOTE]
But Binladen wasn't in Iraq
As far as I am concerned, anyone who makes it their business to kill other people for not believing what they believe, especially when there is no evidence to back up their beliefs, deserves death without mercy.
I wouldn't call it unfortunate that they have to die or that they die, it should be a celebration when they do as a world without them is a world safer for people who are not them. I would call it unfortunate that they began to hold the ideals that led them to behaving the way they currently do. I'd also say it's unfortunate that those people among them who toe the line reluctantly, but if given the chance would stop what they are doing, that they might die before being redeemed.
You know, even if you're anti-killing you can celebrate and be happy about this without praising death... Be happy about the innocent lives that will be saved because terrorists are no longer there to kill them. It's certainly not wrong to be happy about this.
[QUOTE=PolarEventide;46558333]"Raghead" comes from turbans, which are worn by more than Muslims.[/QUOTE]
Racists are ignorant.
In other news, the sky is blue, bears shit in the woods, and space is big.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46561018]doesnt matter where he was really, we went to iraq/afghanistan and blew a bunch of shit up, tried to train some armies, and in the end just got fucked by the people we tried to help and a bunch of our people died from it, with what seems like not much gained after those 13 years
this is essentially the same situation but with a larger enemy force with more traction, but im positive the locals still wont really care that much if we helped, to them its just another invader occupying their territory disturbing what little peace they had[/QUOTE]
Iraq to some degree yes, Afghanistan on the other hand I'm fairly sure went in our favour and we pretty much pushed the Taliban and Al Qaeda out
Killing 8 people a day has to affect you in some sort of way.
To what end, well that depends on the context.
Don't fuck with British snipers
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/10735666/British-sniper-in-Afghanistan-kills-six-Taliban-with-one-bullet.html[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Harrison_(sniper)[/url]
Looking at news like [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1438619"]this one[/URL], i just can't understand all those pacifist people.
[QUOTE=deadoon;46560731]I am actually well aware of that.
That is the reason why I said "someone you class as bad" and "someone you class as good".
Good and bad/evil are perspectives.
You on the other hand missed the fact that I worded it perfectly, so that it is applicable to everyone.
They believe that they are the "good" and that those they kill are the "bad".
The belief it being acceptable or not is determined by the individual. They believe it is acceptable, otherwise would not be doing it.[/QUOTE]
So why post at all? This is all redundant shit. ISIS thinks they're in the right, we (as truly civilized human beings) think they're wrong and we're right. That's how all conflicts go. We have the power and the will within ourselves to fight and kill them and destroy them and to enforce our position and our will over theirs, and that's how simple it is.
I don't understand why every time a subject like this comes up, we have to get philosophical about it and state the obvious. There's nothing to discuss. Killing these people is good for our cause, and our cause is in the interests of preserving humanity by stopping them from committing mass murder and other such atrocities and as well attempting to restore regional harmony for the benefit of the people who live there as well as our own. This is something which anyone who supports these things (decency, peace, etc.) should be celebrating. Celebrating not only our cause, but celebrating as well their (ISIS') gradual destruction.
There is absolutely no reason to feel any pity or sentimentality towards members of ISIS in this struggle. It's not at all unfortunate that they're dying; not to the innocents they attack especially.
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these articles are the best to find out who on facebook is a closet racist[/QUOTE]
More like finding out who on Facebook is a total coward. They wouldn't say that if they didn't have a computer to hide behind...
[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;46561124]Killing 8 people a day has to affect you in some sort of way.
To what end, well that depends on the context.[/QUOTE]
All depends on how you look at it.
"Those dirty terrorists were probably going to mow down innocents, I have saved lives"
Guess the brits have improved from their "effort" in Afghanistan.
Now actually shooting the enemy instead of shooting and shelling your allies!
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;46561758]Guess the brits have improved from their "effort" in Afghanistan.
Now actually shooting the enemy instead of shooting and shelling your allies![/QUOTE]
The larger your forces are in number, the odds of being involved in a Blue on Blue increase accordingly. That's why the UK and US have done it the most, It's utterly shit but that's what happens in war.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;46561758]Guess the brits have improved from their "effort" in Afghanistan.
Now actually shooting the enemy instead of shooting and shelling your allies![/QUOTE]
Shit happens, bruh
[QUOTE=UberMensch;46561637]More like finding out who on Facebook is a total coward. They wouldn't say that if they didn't have a computer to hide behind...[/QUOTE]
Oh no, trust me, as someone living in the U.S. and especially in a republican state, there are plenty of people here that say it loudly and proudly in public.
I'm not proud that people have to die to improve things in the Middle East. But at least something is being done. There, that's a fairly neutral way to look at things without sounding silly or jingoistic.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;46560131]These aren't really comparable conflicts tbh
Saddam wasn't really doing anything back in 2003 unlike back in the 90's, he just got on the wrong side of the American's
ISIS on the other hand are rolling around murdering civilians left, right and centre along with threatening terrorist attacks on the west. It's not exactly uncalled for intervention.[/QUOTE]
Plus this time they were asked to assist by a legit government. In this sense its much more justified and much more akin to the involvement in Afghanistan.
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[QUOTE=carcarcargo;46561108]Iraq to some degree yes, Afghanistan on the other hand I'm fairly sure went in our favour and we pretty much pushed the Taliban and Al Qaeda out[/QUOTE]
Maybe kicked them out of the quasi power they had, but I would say they are still in a lot of control. There is a reason why Karzai used to be referred to as the "mayor of Kabul" for a long time.
[editline]24th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;46561758]Guess the brits have improved from their "effort" in Afghanistan.
Now actually shooting the enemy instead of shooting and shelling your allies![/QUOTE]
Oh come on, any blue on blue the British have done pails in comparison to the Americans.. I mean there is a whole Wikipedia article dedicated to American friendly fire events against JUST the UK since WW2.
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