• Famous Wii-hacker finds his way into Wii-u, finds full specifications
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There are core i7's that run at less than 1.2ghz. A pentium 4 at 4ghz is way better It isn't
[QUOTE=koeniginator;38639138]In comparison, the wii had a single core 729 MHz CPU and a 243 MHz GPU. While the wii u might be pretty low-spec, it's leagues better than the original wii. RAM: 88MB -> 1024MB (usable for games) CPU: 729 MHz -> 1269MHz x 3 GPU: 243 MHz -> 545MHz[/QUOTE] 88MB of RAM? Holy shit, imagine coding with those constraints. It's a wonder so many developers were able to do it.
[QUOTE=Rika-chan;38651744]There are core i7's that run at less than 1.2ghz. A pentium 4 at 4ghz is way better[/QUOTE] I get your point, but this CPU is apparently based on PowerPC 750, which is an even worse architecture than P4
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38651885]I get your point, but this CPU is apparently based on PowerPC 750, which is an even worse architecture than P4[/QUOTE] Yeah, I realize that, but posts like "derp phones are more powerful" are stupid beyond comprehension
[QUOTE=dafour;38651111]The gpu has does about 700gflops,while the x360 does about 240gflops and the ps3 about 400 gflops. Don't stare so blindly at those cpu specs people. Oh and a GTX680 does about 3100 gflops ;)[/QUOTE] Floating point performance isn't directly indicative of how it will perform, even if it does help provide some indication as to how much you can get out of your hardware.
[QUOTE=Rika-chan;38651921]Yeah, I realize that, but posts like "derp phones are more powerful" are stupid beyond comprehension[/QUOTE] If it is based off that architecture, then im reasonably sure that yes, there are more powerful phones.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;38651960]If it is based off that architecture, then im reasonably sure that yes, there are more powerful phones.[/QUOTE] So a phone can run black ops 2?
[QUOTE=Rika-chan;38651744]There are core i7's that run at less than 1.2ghz. A pentium 4 at 4ghz is way better [/QUOTE] Word around the corner is that the WiiU has no proper SIMD instruction sets, which makes it shit for matrix calculations and crap like that.
[QUOTE=Rika-chan;38651982]So a phone can run black ops 2?[/QUOTE] Phones typically lack correspondingly powerful GPU units. My fault for not being clear I guess. If that is true then there are probably phones with more powerful CPUs.
[QUOTE=koeniginator;38639138]In comparison, the wii had a single core 729 MHz CPU and a 243 MHz GPU. While the wii u might be pretty low-spec, it's leagues better than the original wii. RAM: 88MB -> 1024MB (usable for games) CPU: 729 MHz -> 1269MHz x 3 GPU: 243 MHz -> 545MHz[/QUOTE] If I'm not mistaken, the Wii was just a higher clocked Gamecube, with a little more memory and modern interfaces like USB and Bluetooth and built in Flash memory. So yeah let's hope the WiiU does circles around hardware circa 2001.
That CPU is pretty much on par with the 360's processor Ugh
[QUOTE=Matoking;38651670]In other news, the same group who managed to retrieve PS3's private keys two years back have managed to get the Homebrew Channel running on Wii U. [video=youtube;96k0YgOqHTA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96k0YgOqHTA[/video][/QUOTE] They used an exploit in the Wii software. Nintendo is probably running their backwards-compatibility exactly like on the DS, if you run older software it basically runs like the older console, with no access to the newer functionality. So while it is running on the WiiU, it doesn't have access to anything new in the WiiU. They'll need a WiiU exploit for that, not a Wii one. Unless they somehow figure out a way to break out of the sandbox that they've been put in, which is unlikely.
[QUOTE=Rika-chan;38651921]Yeah, I realize that, but posts like "derp phones are more powerful" are stupid beyond comprehension[/QUOTE] Yeah, if they knew about architectures they'd know that ARM would never be put on a console and most 3D phone games are heavily GPU dependent (Wii U also has a pretty good GPU, but console developers aren't used to putting everything on the pipeline)
[QUOTE=Tobba;38652112]That CPU is pretty much on par with the 360's processor Ugh[/QUOTE] Unless we have details about the instruction sets, cache and so on I'd suggest not to form uneducated opinions, it bears the potential of looking like a total idiot once the full specs are released.
Phone CPUs are about as powerful as an early athlon XP right now.
[QUOTE=JohnnyOnFlame;38651997]Word around the corner is that the WiiU has no proper SIMD instruction sets, which makes it shit for matrix calculations and crap like that.[/QUOTE] If what the wiki says is true and it uses a WATSON like processor architecture it is a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POWER7]Power7[/url] like CPU and that would mean word around the corner is wrong.
[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;38653403']Phone CPUs are about as powerful as an early athlon XP right now.[/QUOTE] Depends on the "work type" ARM processors are better at one thing, but worse at another, compared to x86. They're [B]MUCH MORE[/B] power efficient (power consumption compared to the actual performance) compared to the die size, and that's one of the reasons they're heavily used in small battery powered devices.
I like how Nintendo fans try to justify any poor move by Nintendo by saying stuff like "Nintendos in a whole other league. they follow their own style." That just sounds like something an awkward fedora wearer would say to justify being odd. Point is that being different doesnt make something good.
[QUOTE=rodent-man;38641280]In all honesty, the 360 version looks more like shit in your "comparison". Also, just to get people to quiet down about the performance when it comes to clock rate: [IMG]http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/405/bench/CPU2.png[/IMG] Oh look, a[B] phenom II X4[/B] at [B]3.7 GHz[/B] has almost half the performance of a [B]2600k[/B] (also quad-core) at [B]3.4 GHz![/B] It doesn't matter how fast something runs if it can't compute efficiently.[/QUOTE] I agree with your argument but the i7 boosts the clock rate up to like 3.9 iirc which kinda ruins your comparison there, choose another cpu to compare like the old i7.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;38656365]I like how Nintendo fans try to justify any poor move by Nintendo by saying stuff like "Nintendos in a whole other league. they follow their own style." That just sounds like something an awkward fedora wearer would say to justify being odd. Point is that being different doesnt make something good.[/QUOTE] This is such crooked, backwards, insecurity screaming logic I actually feel a little sorry for you
Clock speed doesnt mean much. Thats why i'd rather like if they started just telling processor's GFlops instead of MHz.
I think what some people might be forgetting is that although all dem hrtz are slower, the CPU on a console has far far less to deal with in terms of background process on a PC, which is why a higher clock speed is generally needed.
Not only that, x86 is a pile of shit.
[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;38665928']Not only that, x86 is a pile of shit.[/QUOTE] It might not be the best architecture, but it's the one most developers actually have a little bit of experience with. After that comes ARM.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;38639223]Once again, Nintendo attempts to impress all, but fails to meet even the most essential expectations. They receive none of my money, but have my pity.[/QUOTE] good games != fucking amazing graphics
[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;38665928']Not only that, x86 is a pile of shit.[/QUOTE] What's your motivation for that statement again?
[QUOTE=Profanwolf;38666804]What's your motivation for that statement again?[/QUOTE] I buy an 'a' and solve "Edgyness"
[QUOTE=ThatSprite;38666281]good games != fucking amazing graphics[/QUOTE] I love how people bring up gameplay in a discussion about graphics or vice versa, just how irrelevant. It's like I'm on Gamefaqs again, ugh.
[QUOTE=ThatSprite;38666281]good games != fucking amazing graphics[/QUOTE] I like good games with amazing graphics more than good games without amazing graphics
TBH I hope that the CPU in it is bad, maybe devs will start caring if their awful code is optimized or not and every single console port to pc won't require a great CPU. [editline]1st December 2012[/editline] and the CPU is definitely not the bottleneck in todays games on console, GPU is. It just means that games for Wii U will have to be better optimized. The GPU is undoubtedly better.
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