U.S. agent fatally shoots Mexican teen near border
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Was actually talking to sgtcrazywhatever, who has not responded mind you.
[QUOTE=CivilProtection;22546747]NO! Don't bring this 4chan implying bullshit into facepunch.[/QUOTE]
>Implying that just because you saw it on 4chan, it makes it stupid and not a perfectly valid and organized argumentative tactic.
These debates always piss me off.
For all you people know, he could've been trying to fire off a warning shot. You try taking fair aim when you're being pelted by rocks the size of your fist. Like has been said. The kid gambled by throwing rocks at a guy with a gun. He lost. Boo fucking hoo.
what's that thing where you shoot near people bot not at them so as to scare them away but not hurt them called again.
[QUOTE=noobcake;22554187]For all you people know, he could've been trying to fire off a warning shot.[/QUOTE]
firing a warning shot at the guy's head?
[QUOTE=noobcake;22554187]You try taking fair aim when you're being pelted by rocks the size of your fist.[/QUOTE]
or you can back off.
[QUOTE=noobcake;22554187]Like has been said. The kid gambled by throwing rocks at a guy with a gun. He lost. Boo fucking hoo.[/QUOTE]
throwing rocks at a guy with a gun doesn't justify shooting him
and you know you've won a debate when the guy resorts to saying "boo fucking hoo."
[QUOTE=noobcake;22554187]>Implying that just because you saw it on 4chan, it makes it stupid and not a perfectly valid and organized argumentative tactic.
These debates always piss me off.
For all you people know, he could've been trying to fire off a warning shot. You try taking fair aim when you're being pelted by rocks the size of your fist. Like has been said. The kid gambled by throwing rocks at a guy with a gun. He lost. Boo fucking hoo.[/QUOTE]
lol, you think warning shots involve shooting at the person.
the border patrol guy might have panicked,and the mexicans should have known better then to throw rocks at a guy with a gun, how stupid do you get?
[QUOTE=Warhol;22546567]...right, lets review this
where did I say:
A: All American's are murderers
B: All guns should be banned
C: Pinned this on anyone BUT the border guard
lol, you are a fucking joke.
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You can make some unregistered claims, and i've heard them. But that's a fucking strawman and a half there.
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my guess is, you didn't READ the argument. I didn't even SAY American's, guns or fucking talk about banning anything. Are you mentally retarded?[/QUOTE]
well you always say how terrible america is and how its being run into the ground so i wasn't expecting any different.
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[QUOTE=Warhol;22561831]lol, you think warning shots involve shooting at the person.[/QUOTE]
shooting straight up into the air isn't real safe either
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[QUOTE=Warhol;22548517]Was actually talking to sgtcrazywhatever, who has not responded mind you.[/QUOTE]
good god you can't go a single day without being bitched at, it's called having a life and more important things to do.
This argument is redundant. The kid joined in with a group of assailants on an armed border agent. What do you honestly think would happen? Welcome to reality, you attack an armed man, he's probably going to shoot at you. He's dead from his own stupid error. That's it.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;22573184]well you always say how terrible america is and how its being run into the ground so i wasn't expecting any different.[/quote]
Quote me where I said that in the thread.
So you came in here blind, made an assumption and a biased claim over something I didn't do and then when I ask you for it, you pin it on me because you see it all the time
You're either retarded or your plan fucking backfired on you.
i'm thinking it's a little of column A and a little of column B
[quote]shooting straight up into the air isn't real safe either[/quote]
Shooting up in the air is a little different then shooting at a fucking person.
and it's obvious he was pretty close because he got a fucking head shot off it.
[quote]good god you can't go a single day without being bitched at, it's called having a life and more important things to do.[/QUOTE]
so you're just here to just vomit fluff?
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[QUOTE=massn7;22586504]This argument is redundant. The kid joined in with a group of assailants on an armed border agent. What do you honestly think would happen? Welcome to reality, you attack an armed man, he's probably going to shoot at you. He's dead from his own stupid error. That's it.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't change the fact the guard fucked up.
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before you start making a strawman, the kid fucked up too and got the short end of the stick
shouldn't have thrown rocks lol
[QUOTE=JDK721;22469448][b]Source:[/b] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/08/texas.border.patrol.shooting/index.html?hpt=T3[/url][/QUOTE]
shooting the kid was a bad idea, but throwing rocks at a law enforcement officer (not necessarily policeman, but same idea) is. Honestly, there should have been some non-lethal force used on the kid, and border patrol shouldn't be carrying around guns because, unless illegal immigrants are coming to the american side of the border with weapons.
Lol @ everyone taking the liberal side. He throws rocks, the guard pops the kid some new holes. Shouldn't have been a dumbass in the first place.
[QUOTE=Bllasae;22648706]Lol @ everyone taking the liberal side. He throws rocks, the guard pops the kid some new holes. Shouldn't have been a dumbass in the first place.[/QUOTE]
so glad you appreciate life
[QUOTE=Warhol;22592035]Quote me where I said that in the thread.
So you came in here blind, made an assumption and a biased claim over something I didn't do and then when I ask you for it, you pin it on me because you see it all the time
You're either retarded or your plan fucking backfired on you.
i'm thinking it's a little of column A and a little of column B
Shooting up in the air is a little different then shooting at a fucking person.
and it's obvious he was pretty close because he got a fucking head shot off it.
so you're just here to just vomit fluff?
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Doesn't change the fact the guard fucked up.
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before you start making a strawman, the kid fucked up too and got the short end of the stick[/QUOTE]
The guard could have been trying to fire a warning shot next to the person, and the he got in the way. Maybe he should have thought better than to throw stones at someone with a firearm?
[QUOTE=HighdefGE;22651127]The guard could have been trying to fire a warning shot next to the person, and the he got in the way. Maybe he should have thought better than to throw stones at someone with a firearm?[/QUOTE]
Generally you don't shoot warning shots at the person you are trying to warn.
Here's what I would have done.
Tell them to stop> Shoot warning shots into the air> Use non-lethal methods of crowd control, i.e. tear gas
Here's what he did:
Tell them to stop> Kill one of them
Great reasoning there.
[QUOTE=Bllasae;22648706]Lol @ everyone taking the liberal side. He throws rocks, the guard pops the kid some new holes. Shouldn't have been a dumbass in the first place.[/QUOTE]
disproportionate force
are you telling me you've never done dumb things in your life?
The funny thing is the guy who was shot was throwing large rocks at the cops, and the cops asked him multiple times to stop. After the cops got hit a few times they shot him, and he died. Good. Inb4 THEY'RE JUST ROCKS!11
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