• Danish radio DJ batters a nine week old rabbit to death live on air with a bicycle pump, to raise aw
    143 replies, posted
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47808839]What makes a 2 months old rabbit a pet rabbit and differentiates it from rabbits grown for meat?[/QUOTE] I would think it's fairly obvious. Meat rabbits are bred to have more meat on their body then other things. same for fur rabbits, they're bred to grow lots of fur which is shaven off and turned into yarn.
Like, I dunno if this is so different in other parts of Europe or world, but in Bohemian lands, it was completely common in last century (and still isn't rare), that the people living in the more rural areas had these built on their property [img]http://i.imgur.com/9BVR3Kf.jpg[/img] Do you know what are these for? You throw a rabbit or two into each of these bays, feed them grass and left over vegetable cuts, and when you feel like having a better sunday lunch, you pull one out, whack it with an axe handle, skin it, and gut it. It was completely normal for common citizens with zero qualification to do, and it has been done for literally centuries. And no, they aren't a different species than the ones you can buy them in pet store. And a soemwhat morbid joke has always been that visiting kids of the relatives always love these so much, and borrow them from the bays and toy with them, and are completely unsuspecting that they are having a cuddly time with something that's nothing but a living food conserve.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;47808880]I would think it's fairly obvious. Meat rabbits are bred to have more meat on their body then other things. same for fur rabbits, they're bred to grow lots of fur which is shaven off and turned into yarn.[/QUOTE] Firstly, what you are saying is bullshit. Rabbit has more or less meat (but mostly fat) based on how much you feed it. You can feed the living shit out of your pet rabbit, and it will be a massive fucking thing. That doesn't mean it's suddenly edible or un-edible. Yeah, eating scrawny rabbits is wasteful, but not anyhow wrong. Let me repeat, people have been having pets of the exact same breed people commonly breed here for meat, here. You are just simply wrong.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47808881]Like, I dunno if this is so different in other parts of Europe or world, but in Bohemian lands, it was completely common in last century (and still isn't rare), that the people living in the more rural areas had these built on their property [img]http://i.imgur.com/9BVR3Kf.jpg[/img] Do you know what are these for? You throw a rabbit or two into each of these bays, feed them grass and left over vegetable cuts, and when you feel like having a better sunday lunch, you pull one out, whack it with an axe handle, skin it, and gut it. It was completely normal for common citizens with zero qualification to do, and it has been done for literally centuries. [B]And no, they aren't a different species than the ones you can buy them in pet store[/B]. And a soemwhat morbid joke has always been that visiting kids of the relatives always love these so much, and borrow them from the bays and toy with them, and are completely unsuspecting that they are having a cuddly time with something that's nothing but a living food conserve.[/QUOTE] If you think that's still true, you're totally mistaken. You can own a meat rabbit breed as a pet, sure, but you aren't going to eat a Netherland Dwarf. [editline]26th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=reeferdk;47808826]You know what was originally raised for food (and still is on a wide scale) ? Guinnea Pigs![/QUOTE] So are rabbits. What is your point, exactly? [editline]26th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47808892]Firstly, what you are saying is bullshit. Rabbit has more or less meat (but mostly fat) based on how much you feed it. You can feed the living shit out of your pet rabbit, and it will be a massive fucking thing. That doesn't mean it's suddenly edible or un-edible. Yeah, eating scrawny rabbits is wasteful, but not anyhow wrong. Let me repeat, people have been having pets of the exact same breed people commonly breed here for meat, here. You are just simply wrong.[/QUOTE] You're the one who's wrong here. I've owned rabbits before, I've done lots of research on rabbits and rabbit breeds, and I've visited meat rabbit farms. The breeds are not the same as what you buy as a pet. Maybe it's different in the Czech Republic, but in America, we don't eat the pet breeds or keep the meat breeds as pets very commonly.
[IMG]http://multimedia.pol.dk/archive/00939/allan-aflivning2_939343a.jpg[/IMG] Bike pump used to kill it. Basically an iron rod. He recieved precise instructions from a guy working at the zoo, who kills several rabbits every single day, to feed the snakes there. The DJ and his family ate the rabbit and there was plenty of meat on it, believe it or not. I am the biggest animal lover there is, and I absolutely hate mistreatment of animals, but I have also grown up where animals are butchered openly. The only thing I think is wrong about this, is that he did it on live radio, but at the same time it got the message out, and it caused a massive shitstorm in the media. It helped raise awareness on the massive pig and chicken industry in Denmark, where the animals are raised in the most disgustingly shitty environment there is. The rabbit itself had lived a good life, and died almost instantly. Yet people defend the rabbit and ignore the massive problems in the food industry because its much easier to get angry at one person killing a cute animal.
[QUOTE=Rolfeh;47808919][IMG]http://multimedia.pol.dk/archive/00939/allan-aflivning2_939343a.jpg[/IMG] Bike pump used to kill it. Basically an iron rod. He recieved precise instructions from a guy working at the zoo, who kills several rabbits every single day, to feed the snakes there. The DJ and his family ate the rabbit and there was plenty of meat on it, believe it or not. I am the biggest animal lover there is, and I absolutely hate mistreatment of animals, but I have also grown up where animals are butchered openly. The only thing I think is wrong about this, is that he did it on live radio, but at the same time it got the message out, and it caused a massive shitstorm in the media. It helped raise awareness on the massive pig and chicken industry in Denmark, where the animals are raised in the most disgustingly shitty environment there is. [B]The rabbit itself had lived a good life,[/B] and died almost instantly. Yet people defend the rabbit and ignore the massive problems in the food industry because its much easier to get angry at one person killing a cute animal.[/QUOTE] It was nine weeks old and he hit it 3 times, then broke it's neck. Nothing about that says "lived a good life" or "died almost instantly". If you have any skill with it, it takes one good sharp hit.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;47808898]If you think that's still true, you're totally mistaken. You can own a meat rabbit breed as a pet, sure, but you aren't going to eat a Netherland Dwarf. [/QUOTE] Good thing it wasn't one, then? [quote] You're the one who's wrong here. I've owned rabbits before, I've done lots of research on rabbits and rabbit breeds, and I've visited meat rabbit farms. The breeds are not the same as what you buy as a pet. Maybe it's different in the Czech Republic, but in America, we don't eat the pet breeds or keep the meat breeds as pets very commonly.[/quote] Well, fucking good for you! Now tell me how exactly does that make it [I]wrong[/I] to eat a "pet" rabbit, whatever it means beyond an arbitrary distinction? [editline]26th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Starlight 456;47808937]It was nine weeks old and he hit it 3 times, then broke it's neck. Nothing about that says "lived a good life" or "died almost instantly".[/QUOTE] He might have hit it three times just to be sure. That doesn't mean it lived past the first. I know I would have gone with two or three, better safe than sorry.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47808941]Good thing it wasn't one, then? Well, fucking good for you! Now tell me how exactly does that make it [I]wrong[/I] to eat a "pet" rabbit, whatever it means beyond an arbitrary distinction?[/QUOTE] Because pet rabbits are sold as pets...? They're literally born and sold with the express purpose of people buying and caring for them. It's like buying a puppy at the store, then doing the same to it. Why would that be horrible, but this isn't? It's genuinely appalling how many people are defending killing a baby pet just because there are other breeds of the same animal that are used for food.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;47808898]Netherland Dwarf.[/QUOTE] What happens in Amsterdam, stays in Amsterdam!
-automerge got broken, merged it myself-
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;47808954]Because pet rabbits are sold as pets...? They're literally born and sold with the express purpose of people buying and caring for them. It's like buying a puppy at the store, then doing the same to it. Why would that be horrible, but this isn't?[/QUOTE] But what does it fucking matter what they are sold as? If I buy a salad cucumber and stick it up my butt, does it make me a rapist because that wasn't the cucumber's purpose at all? Fucking no, it's a bloody cucumber. And don't bring up puppies. Dogs are completely different case of animals with significant intellect who have been bred into loyalty and kinship to human. Even the most domesticated pet rabbit breed is just another rabbit that will never care for you and always try to escape and not return if given the convenient enough opportunity.
I would rather eat a pet that has received a decent upbringing, than a caged animal that has never seen the light of day during its lifetime. The fact that it is a pet makes no difference at all.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;47808954] It's genuinely appalling how many people are defending killing a baby pet just because there are other breeds of the same animal that are used for food.[/QUOTE] It's genuinely appalling how many people are apparently only comfortable with killing of animals just when it's their "purpose". You are exactly what the guy is talking about. Your idea of morality is based on completely arbitrary made up nonsense and it makes me kinda worried if this is what takes justifying murder in your eyes.
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpDmHG_8pwE]This is the proper way of killing a rabbit with a club[/url]. Anyone who fucking teaches you to whack the creature senselessly at the neck is an imbecile who should have any animal care license they have revoked.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;47808954] It's genuinely appalling how many people are defending killing a baby pet just because there are other breeds of the same animal that are used for food.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure the point here is the complete opposite - why is it any less bad to kill an animal just because you don't define it as a pet? a change of terminology doesn't make it any more or less alive
lol at all the people calling the radio host a cunt you are the people he was trying to get through to i guess you are just too thick to get it even when it's flat out explained to you
[QUOTE=Scot;47809059]lol at all the people calling the radio host a cunt you are the people he was trying to get through to i guess you are just too thick to get it even when it's flat out explained to you[/QUOTE] he killed a rabbit, whatever, but beating it over the head 4 times before killing it is not the proper way to go about it
I'll try to explain the nature of pets and all as easy as possible. 1.) A pet normally is within a restrained area, and does not cause environmental damage. Rabbits are notorious for burrowing and damaging farmland. When my air rifle was working, I use to hunt on some farmers properties for pest control and pelts. 2.) You can buy meat rabbits vs. pet rabbits. Meat rabbits are specifically bred, fed, and kept within the regards of health and safety. Pet rabbits, ehhh, not so much. 3.) The situation used by the radio host to describe why he was doing this, is ludicrous. The rabbit species he is using is not even used for pelts, let alone meat. Granted I understand any meat can be consumed, but it's just in better quality standards to buy meat rabbits which have specific gene traits meant for human consumption. 4.) Rabbits are in astronomical abundance in Europe. Seriously. England has such a massive problem with them that they resorted to chemical agents in the 60's - 90's which effectively caused genetic mutations through out the population. Most of the genetic screws are dead, and now you have the same problem faced before hand. Why couldn't this person just go out and trap a wild rabbit, and go from there. Not only would he be suiting his argument of animal welfare by teaching people to hunt for meat over industrial farming, but it is just in better taste to do so.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;47809088]he killed a rabbit, whatever, but beating it over the head 4 times before killing it is not the proper way to go about it[/QUOTE] He likely killed it with first hit and only hit it more times to make SURE it was dead. Seriously, it's ridiculously easy to kill a rabbit with a hit on the right spot. Even after it's dead, tho, it is going to naturally twitch and kick a bit, that's just noise on the severed spinal cord. He probably freaked out and hit it more times, just to be sure, and the rabbit likely didn't suffer any more.
Another bunny died. What a sad note to go to bed on.
A dane never misses
[QUOTE=Scot;47809059]lol at all the people calling the radio host a cunt you are the people he was trying to get through to i guess you are just too thick to get it even when it's flat out explained to you[/QUOTE] A cow killed with a captive bolt pistol that is unconscious and dead without a chance to recognize it was even hit in the first place is quite a bit different than smacking something with a bike pump.
[QUOTE=deadoon;47810914]A cow killed with a captive bolt pistol that is unconscious and dead without a chance to recognize it was even hit in the first place is quite a bit different than smacking something with a bike pump.[/QUOTE]Killing rabbits with blunt objects is the most common way of killing rabbits though. As someone who grew up on a farm, as long as he ate the rabbit, I couldn't care less.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47810951]Killing rabbits with blunt objects is the most common way of killing rabbits though. As someone who grew up on a farm, as long as he ate the rabbit, I couldn't care less.[/QUOTE] A bike pump is a hollow tube(mostly) with a very low density. It is a very subpar object to do it with as well as being able to be inferred as a weapon of opportunity, rather than a proper tool. A simple metal rod(even a piece of heavy pipe) or axe is a better option by far. My problem isn't that he killed it, it was the method of doing so, which I even stated in that post. You also can get captive bolt pistols for small animals as well.
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;47808132]What the fuck how does this even raise awareness[/QUOTE] I'd say his plan worked perfectly :v:
[QUOTE=deadoon;47811006]My problem isn't that he killed it, it was the method of doing so, which I even stated in that post. You also can get captive bolt pistols for small animals as well.[/QUOTE] I don't think that the rabbit cares how it was killed
[QUOTE=opaali;47811197]I don't think that the rabbit cares how it was killed[/QUOTE] Especially given how the death was instanteneous.
guys i've got a great plan to raise rape awareness
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;47808132]What the fuck how does this even raise awareness[/QUOTE] Same way that Colombian/Venezuelan artist did, by exhibiting a live, emaciated stray dog, for everyone to see. I don't approve of these guys's methods, but I see what they were trying to convey.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47809121]He likely killed it with first hit and only hit it more times to make SURE it was dead. Seriously, it's ridiculously easy to kill a rabbit with a hit on the right spot. Even after it's dead, tho, it is going to naturally twitch and kick a bit, that's just noise on the severed spinal cord. He probably freaked out and hit it more times, just to be sure, and the rabbit likely didn't suffer any more.[/QUOTE] This just sounds like you're just throwing out assumptions...
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.