German man who called friends concerned about NSA's operations to join him in a walk around a US arm

[Jaguar]

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;41484120]Is it really spying when you say something out loud?[/QUOTE]

Depends where you say it. In a private residence, yes; in a public location, no. Facebook is a public forum, and therefore bound to the same rule as saying something in a public location.

[laserguided]

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;41484145]Depends where you say it. In a private residence, yes; in a public location, no. Facebook is a public forum, and therefore bound to the same rule as saying something in a public location.[/QUOTE]
It's kind of obvious that they would have acquired the information even if it was private due to Facebook's cooperation with the NSA when it comes to spying on civilians.

[Jaguar]

[QUOTE=laserguided;41484195]It's kind of obvious that they would have acquired the information even if it was private due to Facebook's cooperation with the NSA when it comes to spying on civilians.[/QUOTE]

Facebook is still a public platform, even with private settings enabled. It's like if you talked about organizing the walk in a room of the Facebook HQ building. It's private in the sense it is invite only, but Facebook owns the building and has the right to monitor your actions so long as you're inside their domain.

[laserguided]

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;41484284]Facebook is still a public platform, even with private settings enabled. It's like if you talked about organizing the walk in a room of the Facebook HQ building. It's private in the sense it is invite only, but Facebook owns the building and has the right to monitor your actions so long as you're inside their domain.[/QUOTE]
That does not make it acceptable from my point of view. They are spying on people for the bad of the US government. You are detached from reality, or a puppet of the US state. You are trying to justify handing private data over to the US government for their National Security Agency to handle and analyse.

[Corn]

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;41484145]Depends where you say it. In a private residence, yes; in a public location, no. Facebook is a public forum, and therefore bound to the same rule as saying something in a public location.[/QUOTE]

So if you were on a date in a park and some guy was stalking you it would be perfectly fine?

[catbarf]

[QUOTE=laserguided;41484407]That does not make it acceptable from my point of view. They are spying on people for the bad of the US government. You are detached from reality, or a puppet of the US state. You are trying to justify handing private data over to the US government for their National Security Agency to handle and analyse.[/QUOTE]

'your views disagree with mine so you must be an ignorant sheep'

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;41484416]So if you were on a date in a park and some guy was stalking you it would be perfectly fine?[/QUOTE]

Since when was casually overhearing something said in public (totally fine) the same as stalking (not fine)?

[TheDecryptor]

Question, if this was about a private company finding out about a march/rally at their premises and not a US army base, would people still be calling Germany a puppet state and claim the company was spying and invading privacy?

I'm not a fan of the NSA spying and other governments/companies just rolling over to the NSA, but making a public post on the internet is in no way private (This is not a private post, anybody can read it), nor is what the German police (or US MPs) did in any way wrong.

[ni🅱️🅱️a]

This is getting really out of hand, and I feel like using the term puppet state, and secret police to describe situations like this are insulting to people who [I]actually have[/I] those problems.