Conservatives defend Herman Cain for saying communities can ban mosques; claim states' rights trump - Polidicks

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;31339414]Take your pick bitch. Banning mosques or the right to bear arms.[/QUOTE] they'll pick the latter, so they can use them to shoot those silly brown people god bless america

Then as soon as someone says you can ban churches, everyone will eat them.

[QUOTE=JDK721;31339399]"think about states' rights!" seems like the usual cop out for conservatives/libertarians whether it's regarding gay marriage or other issues [/QUOTE] uh what a libertarian would have no problem with gay marriage

[QUOTE=Sanius;31339711]uh what a libertarian would have no problem with gay marriage[/QUOTE] In theory anyway

[QUOTE=Sanius;31339711]uh what a libertarian would have no problem with gay marriage[/QUOTE] why won't they support a federal law legalizing it then? their response is always, "leave it to the states to decide!"

keep in mind that I'm talking about actual libertarians, not people like glenn beck and stossel who say they're libertarians so people will hate them less

[QUOTE=JDK721;31339845]why won't they support a federal law legalizing it then? their response is always, "leave it to the states to decide!"[/QUOTE] The current vocal libertarians value state rights more than separation of church and state for whatever reason. oh that's the topic of the thread isn't it.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31339311]Some of his political ideas are pretty retarded. Case in point: "I will only allow bills to be...3 pages!"[/QUOTE] Work around? Text size 1. Have everyone read those three pages with a fucking magnifying glass.

[QUOTE=Sanius;31339869]keep in mind that I'm talking about actual libertarians, not people like glenn beck and stossel who say they're libertarians so people will hate them less[/QUOTE] name these "actual libertarians"

[QUOTE=64k1;31340027]Work around? Text size 1. Have everyone read those three pages with a fucking magnifying glass.[/QUOTE] Now you're really reading the fine print!

Supremacy clause, blah blah federal supersedes state, case closed.

[QUOTE=JDK721;31340091]name these "actual libertarians"[/QUOTE] what are you doing that has no bearing on anything

[QUOTE=JDK721;31340091]name these "actual libertarians"[/QUOTE] Penn and Teller?

[QUOTE=Sanius;31340101]what are you doing that has no bearing on anything[/QUOTE] you said that "actual libertarians" would support legalizing gay marriage give me one fucking example of these "actual libertarians" that would vote in favor of legalizing gay marriage

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4[/media]

[QUOTE=JDK721;31340122]you said that "actual libertarians" would support legalizing gay marriage give me one fucking example of these "actual libertarians" that would vote in favor of legalizing gay marriage[/QUOTE] Bob Barr. Even though he wrote DOMA, he hates it now. [editline]26th July 2011[/editline] Oh also the official Libertarian Party statement.

I really REALLY [B]REALLY[/B] hate this guy. He is the most biggest hypocritical asshole ever.

And then they're asking "Why can't we build churches in the middle-east?".

lol, this coming from the same guy who said if he was president he'd only allow "Small, 3 page bills" [editline]26th July 2011[/editline] also the mosque they were specifically mentioning is already going to be built, they have the permit from the city council and are just waiting on money to begin

[QUOTE=JDK721;31339399]"think about states' rights!" seems like the usual cop out for conservatives/libertarians whether it's regarding gay marriage or other issues I'm fucking sick of hearing that excuse[/QUOTE] Do you know what a libertarian is?

[QUOTE=JDK721;31340091]name these "actual libertarians"[/QUOTE]There was one on Maher last week, Nick Gillespie.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31344537]Do you know what a libertarian is?[/QUOTE] so you're saying that a libertarian would vote in favor of legalizing marriage on a FEDERAL level and not say "leave it for the states to decide"

[QUOTE=JDK721;31345054]so you're saying that a libertarian would vote in favor of legalizing marriage on a FEDERAL level and not say "leave it for the states to decide"[/QUOTE] As a Libertarian, I'd say yes, it should be legalized on a FEDERAL level.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31345055]As a Libertarian, I'd say yes, it should be legalized on a FEDERAL level.[/QUOTE] I'm talking about an actual politician who represents the party, or you can just link me their views, and according to you it should say that they would support legalizing gay marriage on a federal level

[QUOTE=Sanius;31339869]keep in mind that I'm talking about actual libertarians, not people like glenn beck and stossel who say they're libertarians so people will hate them less[/QUOTE] I don't think that helps them much

[QUOTE=Mingebox;31340118]Penn and Teller?[/QUOTE] Penn yes, Teller, no, but I don't know what he is. liberal I think. [QUOTE=Mr.Goodcat;31340779]I really REALLY [B]REALLY[/B] hate this guy. He is the most biggest hypocritical asshole ever.[/QUOTE] He's one of the biggest at least.

Some cool looking buildings aren't the problem..

I think Conservatives have just offically gone batshit and aren't hiding it anymore. Letting it all loose. [editline]26th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31344537]Do you know what a libertarian is?[/QUOTE] You're the last person to ask what anybody knows.

[QUOTE=J!NX;31346533]Penn yes, Teller, no, but I don't know what he is. liberal I think.[/QUOTE] I don't think it matters what Teller is if he can't talk [editline]26th July 2011[/editline] he might be a card carrying member of NAMBLA for all we know

[QUOTE=TH89;31352192]I don't think it matters what Teller is if he can't talk [editline]26th July 2011[/editline] he might be a card carrying member of NAMBLA for all we know[/QUOTE] actually I know Teller and Penn disagree on many things politically.